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Old 07-22-2019, 03:03 AM   #1
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No problem. You should center the housing, measure from the backing plate to the frame on each side. Make sure that you measure from the same place on each side, like a mirror image. Don't worry about the pinion being offset, the U-joints go side to side just as they go up and down. Centering off of the pinion may put the tires out to the left or right- not the look we're after.
Rob, I know this is an old post but I would like to ask, I was was thinking about putting the 8.8 out of my mustang under my truck till I realized that the pinion was offset. Is this not an issue if you center it up off the wheel hubs? Gotta say Im hopping for its not, cause it all ready has gears, and disc brakes.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:57 PM   #2
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RACE REPORT GoodGuys Columbus PPG Nationals is the biggest GoodGuys show in the country. We went from Des Moines to Jasper In. to RideTech, were we swapped to the new tripple adjustable coil-overs. This is a whole new tuning process. We got to see some new stuff in the works there and had a good time. We ran into Mary Pozzi there, getting some new front shocks as well. We made it Columbus on wednesday, and there was already a bunch going on. Thurday evening, I did some make shift shock tuning. In the back of the campground was a really big parking lot. I set some shop towels on the ground in a 150 ft half circle. I'd run up to it at about 35 mph, and then turn and drive the 180 corner. I'd make 4 or 5 runs at it, and then change one shock to see how it reacted. I did this for about two hours, and about 80 laps. At the end I had a croud of 200+ watching and asking questions. This turned into a huge campground benchracing session. Had a great time. Friday morning rain and the running of the 'Street Machine of the Year' cars took up most of the day, and we only got two runs. 33.705 was our fast lap of the day, that put us in the lead over Mike Hickmans Hotchkis built 'G-10', who ran 33.769. The G-10 has had a lot of work done to it since we last saw it, well built and looks good. Saturday the pit filled to it's 80 car max, and we only got three runs. As the day went on, and the track got hot, the times slipped a bit. We never ran faster, nor did the G-10. We won the truck class, and ran 9th overall in a field of 80, or 108 if you count the street machine cars. Congrats, to Brandy Morrow of Spectra in her 70 Camaro, she won the vender class, and Mike Maier, 65 Mustang, won the street machine class and the Sponsor Shoot-out.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:42 AM   #3
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State of Handling I wanted to put out a big THANKS to those of you chasing a better handling truck. Trucks are gaining ground fast, and we hear more and more about great trucks and builds around the country. Last night I was going over the Columbus GoodGuys stats, and realized how much we have gained.
Here's some stats to look at. Mike Maier ran the fast time of the weekend, in his Roush 358" 65 Mustang (he is a 25 yr. + autocross vet) 32.304. Mary Pozzi was second in the street machine class in her fresh built and lightenend 72 camaro. Mary is a 12 National autocross champion, she ran 32.595. Nashville's Brian Finch, who won the Run To The Coast this year, ran a 33.571 in his LS powered 71 Camaro. Roger Burman, of Lakeside Rod and Custom, builder of last years 'Street machine of the year', brought out there new "Crusher" 70 camaro, and ran a 34.481. In the Vendor class, Spectra's Brandy Morrow and the '70 Carbon Camaro ran a 32.622 for the win, fourth in the class was Detroit Speed's Stacy Tucker, 69 camaro, with a 33.718. Now the trucks. We won with a 33.702, just edging out the Hotchkiss built 68 C-10 of Mike Hickman, who ran a 33.766 and a newcomer, Spencer Caudle ran a 34.908 in his 53 chevy p/u.
The great news is we are no longer anywhere near the back of the pack. And I predict that Trucks will only get faster in the years to come. If you haven't tried this, give it a shot, you'll get hooked. Also, as we close in on 50,000 views on this thread, (a cool goal) thanks for all of the interest and input.
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State of Handling I wanted to put out a big THANKS to those of you chasing a better handling truck. Trucks are gaining ground fast, and we hear more and more about great trucks and builds around the country. Last night I was going over the Columbus GoodGuys stats, and realized how much we have gained.
Here's some stats to look at. Mike Maier ran the fast time of the weekend, in his Roush 358" 65 Mustang (he is a 25 yr. + autocross vet) 32.304. Mary Pozzi was second in the street machine class in her fresh built and lightenend 72 camaro. Mary is a 12 National autocross champion, she ran 32.595. Nashville's Brian Finch, who won the Run To The Coast this year, ran a 33.571 in his LS powered 71 Camaro. Roger Burman, of Lakeside Rod and Custom, builder of last years 'Street machine of the year', brought out there new "Crusher" 70 camaro, and ran a 34.481. In the Vendor class, Spectra's Brandy Morrow and the '70 Carbon Camaro ran a 32.622 for the win, fourth in the class was Detroit Speed's Stacy Tucker, 69 camaro, with a 33.718. Now the trucks. We won with a 33.702, just edging out the Hotchkiss built 68 C-10 of Mike Hickman, who ran a 33.766 and a newcomer, Spencer Caudle ran a 34.908 in his 53 chevy p/u.
The great news is we are no longer anywhere near the back of the pack. And I predict that Trucks will only get faster in the years to come. If you haven't tried this, give it a shot, you'll get hooked. Also, as we close in on 50,000 views on this thread, (a cool goal) thanks for all of the interest and input.
Thank you Rob! Guys like you that are willing to share your experiences, knowledge, & ideas/suggestions only help the hobby (especially this segment) grow.
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Thank you Rob! Guys like you that are willing to share your experiences, knowledge, & ideas/suggestions only help the hobby (especially this segment) grow.
I agree. Thank you for sharing your time and experience.
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how about some help on a new project. I need some Photoshop help. We would like to see a side profile of a C-10, stock, and with some mods, to see the comparison. Mods list. Start with a 67-72 sb. chop 2", lean the wishield to fit. Front fenders and hood, cut 2" off of the back edge at the door gap and cowl, and move the front group back to fit. use a sloped 67 hood. pull the front bumper back until it is flush with the grill face. Cut 4" off of the front of the bed sides, and move the bed forward 4" towards the cab. Cut 2" off of the back of the bed, move the end caps and tailgate forward. Cut 2" off of the bottom of the rocker, from the back of the front wheel opening, to the front of the rear wheel opening. Raise the front wheel opening, and re-work the radius, up 3". Set the body ride hieght to 5" at the front rocker, and 6" in the rear. front wheel will be 18x10, 305 35 19, rears 19x12, 345 30 19. Any takers?
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:51 PM   #7
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Rob, I'm getting ready to buy a shock kit from you guys.
Do I need to call, or pm. And is there any way to get further
Info on your front crossmember mods? I would like to set
Up my 65 like project jt. Thanks, Jon.
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how about some help on a new project. I need some Photoshop help. front wheel will be 18x10, 305 35 19, rears 19x12, 345 30 19. Any takers?
Rob, what does it take to fit an 18x10 under the front of these trucks? Narrowed A-Arms or more?

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Rob, what does it take to fit an 18x10 under the front of these trucks? Narrowed A-Arms or more?

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Our JT has 9" front wheels on stock arms and disks. So, I think 10" wheels is just a question of gettint the backspacing right on the money. Both Rob Phillips and Mike Hickman's Hotchis prepped trucks run 10" fronts with stock sheet metal. - tire clearance may stop you from lowering the truck as much as you want. The new project, (soon to be posting about, the "Reaper") will have raised and slightly reshaped wheel openings, profiles close to a 740 BMW, with the flat lip of the C-10. At appx. 2 1/2" higher than the stock openings, and 1" per side wider, we will have our cake and eat it too. A wider than stock suspension track, 315 ft tire, and lower stance. - inner wheel wells? - we'll see.
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Thanks Rob and Scoti.

I am redo in part of my rear suspension and will be running the bar to the trailing arm on the pass. side. I think that will be as low as I want to go for a driver...
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Rob,
Can you let me know what the sway bar you are working on will fit? Is it going to be universal for varied suspension set-ups or is it strictly for the Chevy axle and stock truck arms?
I have build a unique set up and have been looking for an unsprung set up that does not require me welding anything on my powder coated and straightened Lincoln 9". I could fab a bracket to fit on the trailing arm bracket to match up to what ever sway bar I can find or if yours will work on this set up let me know.
Also does the bends in a sway bar affect its performance? I have seen some crazy shapes that look like a bent up coat hanger and I wonder if the straighter it is the better it performs?

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No problem Jon, just call the shop. 909 386 7637. We are working on the complete JT build now so we can post it up. i'll get on Marcel to get it done.
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On a sad note, the Truckin' world has lost a great guy. Courtney wll be missed by everyone who ever met him. R.I.P. Tito.
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On a sad note, the Truckin' world has lost a great guy. Courtney wll be missed by everyone who ever met him. R.I.P. Tito.
Wow, I had no idea he passed yesterday. Phenominal car guy & writer/photographer.
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I saw this sad news on the Hamb.
Not much info anywhere else on the internet.
It's a sad day for the Truckin community.

I hadn't kept up with where Courtney Howell was working lately,... but I'm sure he will be missed by many.
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On a happier note, 'Delmo' stopped in the other day and picked up a chassis pack for a 55-57 chevy p/u. He will be starting a build thread on this, posting up picts and info along the way. If you don't know of him, check the bio on the front page, he's a great guy.
So, no help on the photoshop project yet?
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On a happier note, 'Delmo' stopped in the other day and picked up a chassis pack for a 55-57 chevy p/u. He will be starting a build thread on this, posting up picts and info along the way. If you don't know of him, check the bio on the front page, he's a great guy.
So, no help on the photoshop project yet?
Have you tried the 'photoshop' section? I don't go there much but perhaps someone could help....
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Here's my shot at the body mods using RogueMoe's very nice truck(hope he doesn't mind) as a reference. It's all subjective trying to estimate 2 inches here and 4 here. This was the best picture I had saved on my computer to attempt it. I posted the original picture for reference.
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Hey Rob,... Congrats on winning the Truckin Throwdown.
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Hey Rob,... Congrats on winning the Truckin Throwdown.
Amazing truck and driving job.
I will second that. Also, the article on project JoeTouring was very cool too
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Hey. I think you did a great job! Nice truck to start with. We have pencil/line art drawings to scale, but it's nice to see a pict in color. I think most of it looks pretty balanced, but not so sure about the front wheel opening. We will be running a smaller wheel, 18" & 19", and we need full turning at ride hight, without any tire scrub.
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That's some very impressive work, brake booster and cylinder placement is amazing, that's the first time I've seen something like that, I would assume it is for better weight distribution? That's just awesome!
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thanks Dude, these Big-10 chassis are much wider than stockers, even though the stock body fits right on. This design change allows us to plan the placent of each component to maximize performance.
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