Restoring Rusty

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by blazer2007

I did mine and wasn,t hard. I,ve saved some pics and can tell you what to buy and what you need for a household sewing to make it work

I would appreciate anything you can share, need all the help I can get.

[blazer2007]

Originally Posted by Gregski

I would appreciate anything you can share, need all the help I can get.

I,ll gather all my stuff and make a separate thread on here. Here is good video that inspired me to tackle this. You can,t sew the piping on ,the household machine don,t have the power to sew thru all that material but still looks good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CamnznmHZDA

[hatzie]

If you can run a scroll saw you can run a sewing machine. It takes similar hand-eye coordination.

You can get older Singer and other machines that sew 4 & 5 layers of heavy fabric with care. It just depends on what Household sewing machine you're talking about.
I've sewed 4 layers of Upholstery and French seams in Denim fabric on a 1948 Singer 201-2.

This is not a treadle machine but it is built like a tank.

[LT7A]

Originally Posted by hatzie

If you can run a scroll saw you can run a sewing machine. It takes similar hand-eye coordination.

You can get older Singer and other machines that sew 4 & 5 layers of heavy fabric with care. It just depends on what Household sewing machine you're talking about.
I've sewed 4 layers of Upholstery and French seams in Denim fabric on a 1948 Singer 201-2.

This is not a treadle machine but it is built like a tank.
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I like everything about this post including the picture.

[Gregski]

so gentlemen The Greg picked up the seat today (unfinished, not even started), and I know these guys are not machinists but having gotten 2 of the 4 bolts out already I thought they would put in a bit more effort in six weeks for $650 bucks, especially since they only got hung up on one bolt

oh well, take a look at the pics and let me know your thoughts, I am a bit disappointed, the one time I counted on someone else to come through for me, a specialist, and it sort of makes me feel good about all the stuff I just went on and done did myself

[LT7A]

I'll bet they didn't want to do the work. Instead of jumping at the challenge, they kept putting it aside. That is why before the end of 2021 that place will be called "Ralph's (Formerly Dan's) Scott's Upholstery".

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by LT7A

I'll bet they didn't want to do the work. Instead of jumping at the challenge, they kept putting it aside. That is why before the end of 2021 that place will be called "Ralph's (Formerly Dan's) Scott's Upholstery".

spot on, and I could not have said it better myself, or funnier

you're hired !

[Gregski]

Fender Fluid Leak?

[Gregski]

Gentlemen, and Ladies, it's been a while since I reported so let me give you a little back story on this

since the LS enjin swap the truck has been ronnin' like a beast, it's not uncommon to get complements on it or offers of fist full of rolled up cash from drug dealers at the gas station (true story)

anywho I'm approaching 50 so I go in to get a follow up CAT scan for one of my kidneys on Monday and for those of you who have not had the pleasure of getting this test, they pump you up with some cold fluid that I kid you not makes your anus tingle and makes you wanna pee like you were at a middle of a Greatful Dead concert during one of their never ending jams and had to go soooo bad

anyway I leave the appointment and I just want to take a leak, well my truck decided to do it for me, it just dumped a puddle of fresh red fluid on the hospitals parking lot

good news - my test turned out completely normal

bad news - I caught every single darn red light trying to limp Rusty home !!!!

[Gregski]

well when I get home I have a Zoom work meeting and then it thunders and starts hailing, then it rains off and on for two days, yeah, trans fluid and rain water make for a nice driveway

so this is the second time this Amazon stainless steel braided hose has failed on me, once for the high pressure fuel line and now this gentle bend for the tans fluid line, I'm done with it, and just ordered this one from Summit

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-230620

[LT7A]

Bro, sorry to hear about your plumbing issues. I'm concerned about Rusty's as well. I appreciate the warning on Amazon braided stainless. Do you remember the cost, compared to Summit's offering? I confess to being an avid bargain-hunter but am revising that perspective to looking for good prices on domestic products when possible.

Glad your kidneys checked out good. And you might want to stop shopping for gas with drug dealers. Just a thought.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by LT7A

Bro, sorry to hear about your plumbing issues. I'm concerned about Rusty's as well. I appreciate the warning on Amazon braided stainless. Do you remember the cost, compared to Summit's offering? I confess to being an avid bargain-hunter but am revising that perspective to looking for good prices on domestic products when possible.

Glad your kidneys checked out good. And you might want to stop shopping for gas with drug dealers. Just a thought.

ha ha, here is a link to each, it appears one was $50 the other $80 but I would have paid $200 had I known it would have been trouble free, I guess I have reached that stage in my life, I make a little more money now and time is more valuable etc I bet lots of you will agree

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-230620

[LT7A]

Originally Posted by Gregski

ha ha, here is a link to each, it appears one was $50 the other $80 but I would have paid $200 had I known it would have been trouble free, I guess I have reached that stage in my life, I make a little more money now and time is more valuable etc I bet lots of you will agree

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-230620

Thanks for the links!

[texxxan]

Glad you and Rusty are back!!! I bought some black braided line from Amazon. I better keep an eye on that. I’m even more glad that your health checked out fine.

[Wgesnerjr]

Glad you are fine and Rusty is curable.

I bought Summit hoses for my LS swap 3 years ago. No issues what so ever.

Now, if I could get the steering gear box to stop leaking, I would be great!!

[MikeB]

Good to see a post about Rusty again!

Guess I've been lucky. I have a 69 truck with the same braided fuel line on it for close to 20 years. Not much pressure there, of course. Also had a braided power steering pressure hose on my square for 5 years with a tight bend.

Can't remember the hose brands, however I was buying just about everything from Summit back then.

You can see how the hose does a 180 loop to connect to a 90 degree hose end.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by Wgesnerjr

Glad you are fine and Rusty is curable.

I bought Summit hoses for my LS swap 3 years ago. No issues what so ever.

Now, if I could get the steering gear box to stop leaking, I would be great!!

yup, looks like your steering gear box came with the famous PLS option, aka Pavement Lubrication System!

honestly I found power steering fluid to be the nastiest of all of them, that includes brake fluid and transmission fluid which some people claim to be interchangeable, sometimes the leak could be caused by trying to mate later style O-ringed hoses to older style gear boxes, maybe I got those two backwards but i know ones had rubber orings in them and the others didn't, so using a newer hose on an older box aint always a better option

[Wgesnerjr]

Affirmative on the PLS!!

Mine was and o-ring from start so the 85 hose when right into the LS pump with no leaks. Mine is leaking at the steering shaft input. It desperately needs to be rebuilt. Its in the cue: behind the rear end and repaint of drivers door.

It never ends....

[hatzie]

Originally Posted by Gregski

yup, looks like your steering gear box came with the famous PLS option, aka Pavement Lubrication System!

honestly I found power steering fluid to be the nastiest of all of them, that includes brake fluid and transmission fluid which some people claim to be interchangeable, sometimes the leak could be caused by trying to mate later style O-ringed hoses to older style gear boxes, maybe I got those two backwards but i know ones had rubber orings in them and the others didn't, so using a newer hose on an older box aint always a better option

I think you mean power steering fluid and transmission fluid are said to be interchangeable. Sometimes they are. I used to run Dexron II and Dexron III in the power steering on my grandfathers' farm trucks in the late 1970's and early 1980's.
I wouldn't run Dexron VI in your power steering. Dexron III, if it still existed, would likely be just fine. Since it's no longer available I'll stick with Power Steering juice.

Glycol DOT3 or DOT4 Brake fluid has more in common with anti-freeze than oil.

[Gregski]

Originally Posted by hatzie

I think you mean power steering fluid and transmission fluid are said to be interchangeable.

Yes

[Gregski]

so the Summit hose arrived the very next day (yesterday) much to my surprise and I want to share a couple observations with you

1. note the crappy factory cuts, these are horrible and a total waste of ends, they should put some tape on there to keep the ends from fraying

2. I swear this seems like the exact same hose I bought from Amazon except Summit is charging more for it ($80 vs $50)

the cynic in me has this vision of a random cheap steal braided hose factory in the middle of Manila somewhere where they ship miles of this stuff to different American distributors with the premise of charge what ever the he11 you want for it

but first a box in a box

[Gregski]

and here's a close up of one of the factory cut ends

as our friend LT7A pointed out "must have been cut with a hammer" ha ha

see the problem with said hose ends is that you cannot just cut an inch off the end to get a nice cut, in my experience you have to lop off at least a foot or so to keep the strands in order, maybe I'm just doing it wrong but I've tried it with many different cutting implements yielding the same results

[Gregski]

although only one hoser was weeping I decided to make two new ones, and I was flying along until I got confused on the second hose and pulled the end off of the good new hose instead of the end off of the old hose, that made me mad and I wasted a hose as I couldn't get the end back on it, it was too fraid

pic of one new one in a handsome heat sleeve

[hatzie]

Originally Posted by Gregski

although only one hoser was weeping I decided to make two new ones, and I was flying along until I got confused on the second hose and pulled the end off of the good new hose instead of the end off of the old hose, that made me mad and I wasted a hose as I couldn't get the end back on it, it was too fraid

pic of one new one in a handsome heat sleeve

Have you laid your hands on the short version of the Craftsman Handi Cut tools? I bet they will cut that hose and braid off nice and square.
I've had four four of the short ones since about 1995 and one of the long ones. Great cutoff tools for fuel, oil, and water hoses including the hoses with thin braided wire covers.
I have two shorties and the one long set in the garage. I use one more set of them to cut network and other signal cables and the other to cut and prep coaxial cables.

I can still buy the nylon anvils and steel blades but Stanley stopped production of this damn handy little tool when they took over Craftsman.
Some other enterprising soul is making them now. If they're as stout as the real thing get em while you can.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronan-2-1-2...t/303670186301

This is the real McCoy...https://www.ebay.com/itm/254876062134

[LT7A]

Originally Posted by hatzie

Have you laid your hands on the short version of the Craftsman Handi Cut tools? I bet they will cut that hose and braid off nice and square.
I've had four four of the short ones since about 1995 and one of the long ones. Great cutoff tools for fuel, oil, and water hoses including the hoses with thin braided wire covers.
I have two shorties and the one long set in the garage. I use one more set of them to cut network and other signal cables and the oher to cut and prep coaxial cables.

I can still buy the nylon anvils and steel blades but Stanley stopped production of this damn handy little tool when they took over Craftsman.
Some other enterprising soul is making them now. If they're as stout as the real thing get em while you can.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronan-2-1-2...t/303670186301

This is the real McCoy...https://www.ebay.com/itm/254876062134

I had no idea you could cut braided stainless with such a device. Good info.