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Old 04-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #1
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Re: Project "My Happy Mess"

I had a guy who bought parts from me tell me he and his brother bought a 454 that supposedly ran when pulled and ran great from WCC They got it home and pulled the intake and the engine had blew up so hard it broke the lifter valley. They took it right back and he said that the owner yelled at them and told them it was worthless now and that he actually threw the money they paid for the engine back in their faces. I have also heard other horror stories and will stay away.

Any how the truck is looking great. Not that it matters but I'm glad you left the striping under the hood.
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Old 04-18-2012, 03:17 PM   #2
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Thanks Bud. What's everyone's take on the pinstripe under the hood?

We didn't get primer down today, just more sanding/prepping with 80.
Tomorrow for sure

Bought the primer we're going to shoot on top of the self etch.



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Old 04-18-2012, 03:23 PM   #3
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Great progress. That Hancock stamping is interesting. I've seen one some where but can't remember where. I do plan on hitting some shows this year. Starting with Good Guys at very least!

As far as the striping, I say leave it too. It adds a nice touch to the era IMO.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:04 PM   #4
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The stamp is on the hood latch or support. You probably see it every time you pop the hood. Good Guy's - ever since I got my truck I've considered joining. Especially a few years back when they allowed 71's. I've considered restoring a 69' Snapper mower and putting in the bed for show. The mower was made the same year we first went to the moon, and is named Comet.
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The stamp is on the hood latch or support. You probably see it every time you pop the hood. Good Guy's - ever since I got my truck I've considered joining. Especially a few years back when they allowed 71's. I've considered restoring a 69' Snapper mower and putting in the bed for show. The mower was made the same year we first went to the moon, and is named Comet.
That's funny! My friend Mathew has a 61 Wheel Horse he's been threatening to take too!
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Old 04-18-2012, 08:27 PM   #6
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that's a lot larger than a Snapper Commet.
Okay, if not the mower, then this from my childhood.
I envied the kids in my neighborhood that had these! 71'-73'

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Old 04-20-2012, 01:37 AM   #7
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Almost there...

Still no primer, but plenty of pics!
We've sort of concluded today that my truck was in fact painted once
before. It was done so well, there's hardly any indication of this being
performed, except for one area on the back side of the cab (pics below).
Shown in the pictures are two shades of Bronze. I think that the color
a PO painted the truck was actually darker in color - but we won't be
certain until we actually paint the jams.

Here are a couple shots from yesterday. Don't think you're the only one
Low Elco - we had dents that needed attention too, after sanding they
were more visible. They've since been sanded, and the cab is sitting
waiting to be primed.


Back/top of cab.




Back/pass. side of cab.




Front/top of cab. Seriously?






Engine shot for good measure




Shots above finished sanded.




Back side of cab paint scuffed/sanded.




Masked off with plastic. $20 for the box of plastic. Plenty left over.








80 grit sandpaper used to go over all metal as last step after wire wheel.




Tag taped up.




Here are the pics showing the back side of the cab (down the middle).
The two different tones of bronze, AND something that wasn't noticeable
before - there is no white paint underneath to either side, left or right.
White paint (meaning two layers, bronze/white) exists only in the middle
area. Which would indicate they painted the entire cab white first
from the factory, and then a PO stripped the paint clean (both layers)
and repainted? Except for the middle area?? You can see the masking
job - where the two tones of bronze are - it would have ridden right
below the trim that wraps around the backside of the cab. But I have
no idea why they wouldn't have stripped down the middle area.
Unless I'm too tired to understand and the factory did this. (?)












Cleaning the metal of oil, finger prints, etc... Wax and grease
remover I think its called. All metal wiped down good.
No touching of metal after this step is performed.
Etch primer goes on next.




I think this is sealer getting stirred.




Now the reason we didn't spray primer today. We spent time installing
remote ventilation for the Bullard Free Air Pump. They sell an extension
to run the Inlet filter at a distance, away from the work area if needed -
but it's just a tube that goes straight up. So we (The Fixer) engineered
our own using PVC pipe/fittings and ran it to the outside - leaving the pump
on the inside. Allowing for clean fresh air to be delivered from
the outside of the shop, away from harmful contaminants (primer/paint, etc...).














Turned on




Tomorrow AM the truck will get shot with primer
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:06 AM   #8
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Right on! Always the small stuff that trips ya up. I'm in the same position for paint on the cab inner. Maybe Sunday. Good progress, keep it Rollin!
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:08 PM   #9
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That fresh air pump is a good idea! Your cab is looking really nice. I bet you're righ on the cab getting a repaint too. The white are is odd like you say.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:43 PM   #10
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Re: Project "My Happy Mess"

Thanks man. We got her primed

Looks nice, with very, very little prep work (sanding) needed before painting the jambs.
We plan to shoot (the jambs) paint possibly Monday.
After that we'll work on the doors, get the jambs painted and put the doors back on.

Taking a well deserved weekend off.
The free air pump system worked out GREAT!

The only issue he ran into was the hose curling up on him, getting tangled with the air hose (which also curls) used for the paint gun. We'll correct this by buying swivel adapters for each so that the hoses can freely turn on each end, allowing him to manage them when needed. If I am right that the cab got repainted, and a PO painted it a darker shade of bronze, then that will mean my firewall will be a darker color when all is said and done. I can live with that, but it'll be interesting to see what the 522 med. bronze looks like after he shoots the jambs. Oh, the drama/suspense.

Pics up tonight.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:12 PM   #11
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Congrats ! Big steps always feel good.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:14 PM   #12
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nice work , keep it up
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:53 AM   #13
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Oooooh, pretty! Now you get to start blocking! Bahahaha!
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Urethane primer isn't as hard to sand as Epoxy. The Fixer says with the both of us working opposite sides, we'll be finished within a 1/2 an hour. Hardly any scratches at all and it's nice and smooth. Seriously no scratches except for 2 tiny spots where bondo was used.

P.S. For those of you still following this thread, I apologize for being wrong about the Epoxy over Etch conversation. If you haven't already noticed, we're not using Epoxy primer, we're using Urethane over Etch. If I could go back and delete all the comments, trust me I would. I think Etch would actually eat Epoxy - so I hope someone doesn't go off and do that before doing research of their own first. Oh well, we're all alive and nobody died.
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It looks great!
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Looks great.
Why didn't you shoot the firewall?
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It looks great!
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Cab looks great, nice job.....Jim
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Looks great.
Why didn't you shoot the firewall?
Thanks! There's a few reasons why I didn't want to shoot the firewall.
If I am wrong about the truck being repainted before, and the back of
the cab is a factory fluke, that means:

1) Firewall is original factory paint.
2) It doesn't need repainted, it's in good shape.
3) I will preserve the awesome factory paint numbers behind the engine

441 smeared on with paint




The gas tank has 441 written on it too. Front/top/right


4) Retaining originality, making it a true "Custom" Deluxe C10
Similar to not repainting the underside of the hood, retaining the PO's "Custom" pinstripe.
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Cab looks great, nice job.....Jim
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Looking good! I can't wait to see color. I love Bronze on these trucks.
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cab looking really good ,
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underhood one is cool, I really like the dash stripes.
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I think that's pretty cool keeping all the factory paint markings. Nice progress, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
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Cool! Came out nicer than mine did- I chickened out and used the Eastwood brushable and worked it in. Time for color, baby! I did it -it's fun!
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Thanks man! We have some of the brushable type (not Eastwood) sealer that we considered using on the rocker panel front corners - to give it a factory look, but decided to just go ahead and use the same all around instead. If it'd adhear proper, we may still put some of the brushable type on those corners to conceal the welds a little more and put brush marks in to make it look a little more factory. The stuff I used above was a heavy bodied seam sealer, but it was pretty fluid when applied. Smearing it was easy, but had the potential of getting messy fast if too much was applied. The tape worked out good to keep it off of areas not needing sealer, and helped a lot to keep the surrounding areas clean. It's hard to tell by the pictures because the stuff is black/shinny - but it's all pretty smooth and should cover with primer/paint nicely and not be noticeable. We didn't care so much about the areas that you won't be able to see when the truck is assembled. Like the bottom of the windshield/firewall crevice, we put alot in there and it got in the groove/corner very nice and filled in great. I remember tearing the old stuff out, it was full of putty like sealer. This new stuff is alot better looking and should last a long time. All areas where sealer was applied, were scuffed first.
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Couple hours worth of work today, we got the drip rails sealed. Pics later.
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