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Old 10-16-2015, 06:47 PM   #1
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Does this show travel to CALIF ?????

very cool setup
No this event doesn't travel. There are a number of English wheels, bag stands, tables, and other tools that are stored in the fairground buildings. Folks gather in Oblong to share information and sharpen skills about metal shaping. Many years we have attendees from California (and around the world) and usually there are similar events there. MetalMeet,com is a good source for the events.

I have made good friends and met many talented people through this event.
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One of the participants was modifying a 1950 GMC Suburban grill opening to house a 1952 Buick grill. It came out pretty nice.

The event is held at the Crawford County IL fairgrounds which offers a nice lake and camping spots / RV hook ups back in the trees.
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Dagger tools is always there and he runs a metal shaping class during the event.

Tool drool...may pick the dies up tomorrow.

One of the members always has interesting pre-owned tools.
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Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

Man I would love to be able to attend an event like that. Thanks for the pictures Doug...Jim
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Old 10-17-2015, 05:07 PM   #5
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Man I would love to be able to attend an event like that. Thanks for the pictures Doug...Jim
Jim, the event will be held again next October 11 - 16 2016. and is open to anyone who wants to attend. Registration fee for the participants has been only $100 for a number of years. That provides access to use all the tools, a reasonable supply of 19 gauge steel for your own use and attendance at any of the seminars you want to attend. Lots of the guys bring in tools and everyone shares or uses them too.

You and Mark should try to come over next year. Really a good group of people and a very friendly atmosphere.
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Kay made this firewall this week.
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Fender patch panel nearing completion. Really nice work by this talented participant.
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Jim, the event will be held again next October 11 - 16 2016. and is open to anyone who wants to attend. Registration fee for the participants has been only $100 for a number of years. That provides access to use all the tools, a reasonable supply of 19 gauge steel for your own use and attendance at any of the seminars you want to attend. Lots of the guys bring in tools and everyone shares or uses them too.

You and Mark should try to come over next year. Really a good group of people and a very friendly atmosphere.
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Will see what's in the cards next year, would love to be there...Jim
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Will see what's in the cards next year, would love to be there...Jim
Jim, hope you or any of the folks on here can make it! I've learned a lot from these talented people and have made many good friends.

Suburban is waiting patiently for me to get back on it. I followed Lower50's advice and ordered two tanks like he has. They are nice pieces that come with their own mounting brackets. Thanks Lower50's!

Only other thing I've done is count the splines on the rear axle - 28 - for the center section. The growing grass is slowing down so might be able to get back on it soon....
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Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

That's some cool stuff. Maybe some day.....
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That custom grill was very slick. Most custom treatments look well lets say......more different than custom. I like that one though.

Get back on that Burb..

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That's some cool stuff. Maybe some day.....
It is pretty cool. Arkansas isn't that far away. Maybe you can make it next year?


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That custom grill was very slick. Most custom treatments look well lets say......more different than custom. I like that one though.

Get back on that Burb..

Marc
I hear you about custom. The fabricator teaches a street rod building class at a community college and is a cool guy. Just met him at the event. Trying to get on the Burb. Grass slowed down and now I have a lotta leaves needing attention. Appreciate your encouragement Marc!

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That's really cool you all get together like that. Some really skilled folks that have a talent I simply do not. Very cool!
It is. The event started in 2001 in Alabama and moved to Oblong in 2005. I've learned a lot from these talented folks.

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No prob glad to help. Looks like a really cool show.
Coolest part is all the projects and hands on. Plus the good people! Thanks again for the lead on the tanks. One of these days I will install them!

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Thank's for sharing Doug...would love to attend next year if we can swing it!

Mark...
Mark, would be great if you and Jim could make it!
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Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

That's really cool you all get together like that. Some really skilled folks that have a talent I simply do not. Very cool!
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No prob glad to help. Looks like a really cool show.
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Wow that looks like a very cool class...... I want to thank you for that link I'm sure I can't do it so I'm going to a friends to night and see if he can do it. Your Burb is cool I need something in that body style ...
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I haven't yet Sid. Hoping to get to it this week since I am on vacation. Other things keep side tracking me..flat tire on the 72 Burb, bad starter on the 88 dually, windshield replacement on my dd, bad battery in the bucket truck, sealing shop roof, leaves in gutters, tons of yard work....blah, blah, blah excuses.

Anyway, they looked pretty close on yours after the angle mill, so I am thinking mine might not fit.

I was in the shop getting some of this other stuff fixed and I was pretty sure the 48 Burb was kinda miffed....
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Wow that looks like a very cool class...... I want to thank you for that link I'm sure I can't do it so I'm going to a friends to night and see if he can do it. Your Burb is cool I need something in that body style ...
You are welcome blake. Hopefully it will work out for you. We like this body style burb and a few guys on here are building them. Actually, mine has been in super slow motion build for awhile.
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Thank's for sharing Doug...would love to attend next year if we can swing it!

Mark...
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Your right, didn't realize how close we are. Maybe 8 hours.......
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Doug-

What gas tank are you using? Or is that TBD? I was planning on using a 65 mustang as that sounded like the logical choice for us AD guys, but after looking at the rear brace/body mount. I'm not sure it will fit like it does for the truck guys. I'm also thinking about reworking my stock LS wiring harness. I think that I read that your going with aftermarket...I'm not judging. I might end up going that route myself.

Just curious what you figured out.

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What gas tank are you using? Or is that TBD? I was planning on using a 65 mustang as that sounded like the logical choice for us AD guys, but after looking at the rear brace/body mount. I'm not sure it will fit like it does for the truck guys. I'm also thinking about reworking my stock LS wiring harness. I think that I read that your going with aftermarket...I'm not judging. I might end up going that route myself.

Just curious what you figured out.

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Hi Marc,

Right now I have a vague idea of using a Mustang or Camaro tank from the 60's in the rear and routing the fill over to the sidewall behind the tire then out to the rear fender. Hollister Road Company has some packages for the fill pipes that look promising. One of Crafty B's gas caps would be pretty cool to use. Here is an example https://instagram.com/p/9pQi2MLpa5/

Anyway I haven't puzzled it out too much yet for packaging needs. And I am pretty sure a rear fill will not work unless the tank is really low.

I will need to remove or modify the rear crossmember like I did in the truck. And I have a truck frame under my Burb. I thought the rear crossmembers for the truck and Suburban were the same?

For the LS harness I will likely use BP Automotive. A good friend who is very talented and does a lot of LS swaps, did modify one stock harness. It just takes so long to make it route and look good he said it was almost as easy to make one from scratch. Getting one from a supplier saves a lot of build time. He has used a number of them from different companies and is currently most impressed with BP.

We have a giant "Honey Do" list of stuff for the yard this week end so I don't think I will make the shop....again. Unless it keeps raining!

Marc, please throw up some pictures of yours to get me motivated and hungry again!
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Right now I have a vague idea of using a Mustang or Camaro tank from the 60's in the rear and routing the fill over to the sidewall behind the tire then out to the rear fender. Hollister Road Company has some packages for the fill pipes that look promising. One of Crafty B's gas caps would be pretty cool to use. Here is an example https://instagram.com/p/9pQi2MLpa5/

Anyway I haven't puzzled it out too much yet for packaging needs. And I am pretty sure a rear fill will not work unless the tank is really low.

I will need to remove or modify the rear crossmember like I did in the truck. And I have a truck frame under my Burb. I thought the rear crossmembers for the truck and Suburban were the same?

For the LS harness I will likely use BP Automotive. A good friend who is very talented and does a lot of LS swaps, did modify one stock harness. It just takes so long to make it route and look good he said it was almost as easy to make one from scratch. Getting one from a supplier saves a lot of build time. He has used a number of them from different companies and is currently most impressed with BP.

We have a giant "Honey Do" list of stuff for the yard this week end so I don't think I will make the shop....again. Unless it keeps raining!

Marc, please throw up some pictures of yours to get me motivated and hungry again!
Doug-

Funny you mentioned Crafy. I'm very familiar with him. His shop is 40 minutes north from my house. Every summer he has an open house and last yr I drove my 48 to it with some friends in there hot rods. It was very cool.

Yes, I thought of selling my stock harness to put the money towards an aftermarket harness. I was surprised by how much they sell for. With aftermarket you can also have the length such that you can better hide the computer.

I might have gotten a big parts delivery, but have been asked to hold off on pics for a bit. Shhhhhhhhhh. I'm very stoked by the quality.

I will try to update with some pics of some of my progress.

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I hope both of you guys have better luck with the LS swap then I did.
I pulled my 2nd harness and PCM out and starting over with a MSD efi system.
This way I can tune this myself using a handheld that comes with it.
Finding anyone who can tune these I have found out are either full of BS or are booked out 6 weeks.
Everything was going great until I got to sea level on a day in the 40's. The tune that was in it didn't like that combo and would barley run....MSD should fix that. Have a something similar on my truck but it is a throttle body. No issues at all.
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I hope both of you guys have better luck with the LS swap then I did.
I pulled my 2nd harness and PCM out and starting over with a MSD efi system.
This way I can tune this myself using a handheld that comes with it.
Finding anyone who can tune these I have found out are either full of BS or are booked out 6 weeks.
Everything was going great until I got to sea level on a day in the 40's. The tune that was in it didn't like that combo and would barley run....MSD should fix that. Have a something similar on my truck but it is a throttle body. No issues at all.
Part of the reason I bought a whole car was to eliminate issues. If the car runs fine now my thinking is it will later after the transplant. Looks good on paper anyway..ha ha

As for tuning. My friends (Dutchboys Hotrods) who build high end grand touring cars with modern LS motors use a company close to Grand Rapids MI called Baker Engineering. They have a really good rep with that car scene.
http://www.bakerengineeringinc.com/

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