Project Lemon Drop: anything but stock!

[bbadfred]

Just found your build posts Sure is a great color!!! for some reason it just looks like something I might Like LOL LOL!!!

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Bennett--G4L

Thanks for the pics, looks like you have a good 1"-1.5" from the tire to the bedside. Will be interesting to see where you are at after you change the spacer.
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It was a nice day outside today. So I pulled the truck, removed the rear tyres and changed the spacer. It worked out great, I have about an inch between the tyre and the inner bed side, but I may have to get longer wheel studs to give the lug nuts some more grip. I cant remember if it tried the fit without any spacer. So I may give that try.

[funkytechmonkey]

Whos the luck fella that got to ride b!t@h? LOL

[bbadfred]

Originally Posted by funkytechmonkey

Whos the luck fella that got to ride b!t@h? LOL

Thats my short haired wife next to me and the "Other wife" riding shotgun!!!

[chevytruckluver]

Hey, its been a while glad to see a little more work done, do you think you will be able to air out the rear with the 1/4 spacer now?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by chevytruckluver

Hey, its been a while glad to see a little more work done, do you think you will be able to air out the rear with the 1/4 spacer now?

I made sure i could do that before I pushed it back into the garage.

[chevytruckluver]

Hey Jugernot, its been a while, any updates?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by chevytruckluver

Hey Jugernot, its been a while, any updates?

Yes and No.......

Progress on the house nothing on Lemon Drop

Sometimes you have to take a break and check the Boss happy. My wife has wanted to front yard landscaped since we moved in 5 years ago. We found a great contractor to take on the job and it turned out great. We still have some plants to choose to finish the effect. To make things worst my daily driver (which was paid for) blew up, so I had to buy a new car.

Sorry tried to post pics of the yard but couldn't

[Rokcrln]

I saw the yard last week and it looked great! Can't say as I have seen the truck in a while!
Trust me I know all about house time vs build time

Kevin
LFD Inc.
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[Comerz]

im freaking jealous of that truck lol.

[Joe Pass]

Nice Truck....

[chevytruckluver]

Hey Jugernot, its been a while, any updates?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by chevytruckluver

Hey Jugernot, its been a while, any updates?

Yes, but its not a good one. I went into the garage the other day and noticed that the piece of cardboard I kept under the truck was soaking wet. Upon closer inspection it turned out to be transmission fluid. So I started the truck, pulled it out of the garage and noticed that there was no transmission pressure on the gauge. I crawled under the truck and saw that the front and rear seals of the transmission were leaking.

I have future plans of pulling the trans to take it to the shop for repair. Other than that no updates.

[jugernot]

My neighbor (an original owner of truck pictured below), came by to help me with Lemondrop. Upon further inspection of the transmission, we found that it was not the front and rear seal leaking (GOOD NEWS). It was just the transmission pan gasket. So we pulled the pan to replace the gasket. If you look closely at the picture of the pan you will see that the transmission fluid is full of medal shavings. For to much for a transmission that has 88 miles on it (BAD NEWS). We will still need to pull the transmission for a rebuild.

Just for the heck of things I pulled the dip-stick and saw that the oil was an olive green color and smelled of gas. So we drained the oil (or oil/gas mixture) which instead of 5 quarts was about 8. Since the carb has been changed already and the engine still had the stalling, running rough problem we believe it is the fuel pump malfunctioning and continually dumping fuel into the engine. There was oil coming out of the spark plug holes. Edelbrock does not make the fuel pump that I have or a rebuild kit for it, so I need to get a new on. Fingers crossed that will fix the stalling, running rough problem and hopefully the very lean engine oil did not cause any damage to the internals of the engine.

[Joe Pass]

I think what you see in the pan is normal for a new trans during break in. I would clean the pan and change filter and top off the trans and drive it for a while. Oil will glisten with particles due to break. I have done a lot of these t-350 and unless you have a performance problem I think you good. As far as your fuel pump goes It also sounds like your needle and seat leaking allowing the fuel to flood the carb, do you have fuel pressure5-7 lbs ?. If you disconnect the fuel line to carb and plug it does the engine run smoother until it dies?

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Joe Pass

I think what you see in the pan is normal for a new trans during break in. I would clean the pan and change filter and top off the trans and drive it for a while. Oil will glisten with particles due to break. I have done a lot of these t-350 and unless you have a performance problem I think you good. As far as your fuel pump goes It also sounds like your needle and seat leaking allowing the fuel to flood the carb, do you have fuel pressure5-7 lbs ?. If you disconnect the fuel line to carb and plug it does the engine run smoother until it dies?

I cant remember what the psi of the fuel pump is or find the paperwork for it. For some reason I want to a it as a higher volume pump, but I'm not sure. The trans I have is a 700r4, so I'm not sure if the break in would be different than a t-350. I attached a couple more pics of the transmission pan and debris in the fluid.

The needle and seat thing was something we also discussed, but thought that since it was doing the same thing before I changed to carb to the one that is on the engine now, it may be the fuel pump.

As far as you input, I'm happy to have it. That's why I posted the recent dilemma. I'm very much a novice when it comes to engine and transmission service.

Windsor is a great little town. I'm had to go there a few times for work.

[Joe Pass]

I don't want to step on any toes but it sounds like you need to get some help/advice before you spend money chasing what could be possibly simple tune up adjustments.
I can help you through some of this if you would like, just PM me and I share my contact info....you are just south of me 30 miles...Joe
You can check out my albums on the HAMB website and see that I have the same 350/350 combo's in my trucks. I use the same user name as here

[Joe Pass]

Seeing your pictures makes me think your TCC (700r) cable isn't set up to the proper throw causing some unnecessary slip. That might be the cause of excess clutch debris in he pan but its not unusual to have some because the initial break in (wear in) will create some excess.
Your pump could be a High volume with it designed to supply more fuel but not pressure unlike a high pressure pump which will deliver 12psi. If you have a high pressure pump with out a regulator it will not let the needle/seat seal and flood the engine which is your symptoms.
I will send you my contact info...Joe

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Joe Pass

Seeing your pictures makes me think your TCC (700r) cable isn't set up to the proper throw causing some unnecessary slip. That might be the cause of excess clutch debris in he pan but its not unusual to have some because the initial break in (wear in) will create some excess.
Your pump could be a High volume with it designed to supply more fuel but not pressure unlike a high pressure pump which will deliver 12psi. If you have a high pressure pump with out a regulator it will not let the needle/seat seal and flood the engine which is your symptoms.
I will send you my contact info...Joe

Thanks, sounds like I need to get a tow up to you.

[Joe Pass]

Give me a call when you have a chance, tonight about 7-730 I'll be in my shop if you want to chat...If you need to have it looked at,we can arrainge something but I would think we could narrow these issues down before you decide to tow it.

[jugernot]

Originally Posted by Joe Pass

Give me a call when you have a chance, tonight about 7-730 I'll be in my shop if you want to chat...If you need to have it looked at,we can arrainge something but I would think we could narrow these issues down before you decide to tow it.

Sorry, I lost track of the time with work stuff. I'll try tomorrow.

[jugernot]

Update. I met a member today (Joe Pass) who came by to help dial in the engine and get rid of some of the gremlins haunting the engine. We added a fuel pressure regulator which required changing the fuel line to the carburetor. Adjusted the timing (which was way over 12 degrees), Adjusted air/fuel mixture on the carburetor and put the vacuum line on the correct side of the carburetor. We discovered that a much needed bracket for the 700r4 transmission cable was missing from the carburetor, which was causing slippage in the transmission. I ordered the part from Summit and will put it on when it arrives.

After all that the engine is running smooth and sounds so much better. We went for a short drive to the gas station to fill up the empty gas tank. We drove through some puddles, while it was raining. A first for Joe in a hot rod and a first for Lemondrop.

If all is good after putting on the transmission bracket, I’ll take a trip up to Joe’s shop for some fine tuning (more so to check out Joe’s shop). He is a wealth of knowledge and I’m happy with what he did. He understands how supped up engines can be temperamental.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP JOE. Great to meet you.

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by jugernot

Update. I met a member today (Joe Pass) who came by to help dial in the engine and get rid of some of the gremlins haunting the engine. We added a fuel pressure regulator which required changing the fuel line to the carburetor. Adjusted the timing (which was way over 12 degrees), Adjusted air/fuel mixture on the carburetor and put the vacuum line on the correct side of the carburetor. We discovered that a much needed bracket for the 700r4 transmission cable was missing from the carburetor, which was causing slippage in the transmission. I ordered the part from Summit and will put it on when it arrives.

After all that the engine is running smooth and sounds so much better. We went for a short drive to the gas station to fill up the empty gas tank. We drove through some puddles, while it was raining. A first for Joe in a hot rod and a first for Lemondrop.

If all is good after putting on the transmission bracket, I’ll take a trip up to Joe’s shop for some fine tuning (more so to check out Joe’s shop). He is a wealth of knowledge and I’m happy with what he did. He understands how supped up engines can be temperamental.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP JOE. Great to meet you.

MAJOR PROPS TO JOE!!!!!

[jugernot]

I had Lemondrop towed up to Joe’s Place. What an awesome shop. We did some more researched and learned that the trans TV cable was not properly installed, parts were missing which has a great effect on how the transmission operated. I ordered a new TV cable, linkage and bracket which is highly recommended by Bowtie Overdrives. After installing the proper parts and performing the recommended tests to document the transmission pressures, we took Lemondrop for drive. Wow what a difference.

We also replaced the fuel pump with a 6 psi rating, which eliminated the need for the fuel regulator. We rebuilt the carb and Joe made a few more adjustments to dial in the tuning.

During the week it was at Joe’s place he looked over the truck and found some things that I had installed incorrectly, rag joint, shocks and suspension components and some things that broke and needed repairs, speedo gear and leaking seal. He shimmed the transmission to get a better angle on the drive shaft. He replaced the leaking steering gear box with a remanufactured one and made an adaptor for the power steering hoses. He installed the proper parking brake cable bracket on the hand brake under the dash. He made a stainless steal line for the vacuum line and PVC line. Joe also did something that I didn’t expect, but was happy that he did, He checked the AC system for leaks and then charged the AC with a 1.5 lbs of 134. On a hot day the AC temp at the vent was 53 degrees.

A friend of Joe’s dialed in the alignment and wheel bearing preload.

Friday I went back to Joe’s and we went for a drive. Words cannot describe the why I was feeling. Happy, excited and yet nervous that the engine was gonna start running rough and we’d be stuck on the side of the road. We took Old Redwood Hwy north and drove to Healdsburg. We drove through town and received a “thumbs up” and “nice truck” from a few people we passed. From there we jumped on Hwy 101 back to Joe’s. Everything worked great. RPMs at approximately 70 mph were at 1800.

Today I drove Lemondrop home, which was the longest trip to date that truck has taken. I am confident that I can know take it on some road trips and if I finish the truck up by next summer (still have interior and bed wood to doo) I’ll take it to some car shows.

Joe is a great guy with a lot of knowledge, which he is more then happy to share. I have to thank him for getting Lemondrop to this point as well as thank him for reigniting my interest in the truck. I can once again see the light at the end of the tunnel and its not too far away.

THANKS JOE.

[Joe Pass]

Thank you for the kind words, its amazing the amount of work you have into "Lemon Drop" and I'm glad to participate. I look forward to you coming up for a visit...Joe