Our '66 Short Fleet Build

[Strodder]

I've had experience with Por-15 before with great results. If prepared correctly it's really durable. You can hit it with a hammer and it doesn't chip. You can paint it with a brush, and dries like you sprayed it on. Like you said it's not cheap. I have to check out Zero-Rust to see if it's as durable. What do you guys know?

[joe231]

Originally Posted by jchav62

Progress is progress...Looks dam good!

We were there not too long ago with my woman's '65. Luckily there wasn't too much rust on the chassis, we shot it with Rustoleum semi-gloss black paint...

Thanks Joe!!!

that's a good looking frame!!

Originally Posted by Strodder

I've had experience with Por-15 before with great results. If prepared correctly it's really durable. You can hit it with a hammer and it doesn't chip. You can paint it with a brush, and dries like you sprayed it on. Like you said it's not cheap. I have to check out Zero-Rust to see if it's as durable. What do you guys know?

Excerpt from their web-site

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http://zero-rust.com

I have heard good things about it.

[TimE]

I have a gallon of the black Zero-Rust that I plan to use on the frame. I also bought 6 cans of the red oxide to use in smaller, hard to reach areas so I would have an opposing color to make sure I had good coverage with the black.

If I ever get to the frame, I'll let you know how it turns out. (You'll probably beat me to that point though.)

[joe231]

[Strodder]

It looks good, and I like that it comes in colors. I wonder how it will resist road chips compared to Por-15.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by kizer

Then again Alan's looks really sexy painted.

I heard that.

Joe, nice progress.

You remember our discussion on the durability of my painted frame? You said your truck will be on some dirt roads if I remember correctly. If your can hit por15 with a hammer and it won't chip, I think I know what my choice would be. Good luck with your decision.

[Strodder]

I'm thinking of painting the frame with the Zero-Rust because it comes in colors, and the suspension parts with the black Por-15. That's what will chip the most. Plus I already have a quart of the Por-15.

[joe231]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I heard that.

Joe, nice progress.

You remember our discussion on the durability of my painted frame? You said your truck will be on some dirt roads if I remember correctly. If your can hit por15 with a hammer and it won't chip, I think I know what my choice would be. Good luck with your decision.

Thanks Alan!!!

i do recall that conversation
It is my understanding that the Zero-Rust is as durable as POR......dunno

Originally Posted by Strodder

I'm thinking of painting the frame with the Zero-Rust because it comes in colors, and the suspension parts with the black Por-15. That's what will chip the most. Plus I already have a quart of the Por-15.

I thought it only came in black and red oxide......guess i need to check out the Zero-Rust site some more.....

[TwiggyTheDrummer]

I used the POR15 and it withstood a Bobcat blade without scraping through to the bare metal.

[Strodder]

It's here:
http://zero-rust.com//zero-rust-colors.html

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by TwiggyTheDrummer

I used the POR15 and it withstood a Bobcat blade without scraping through to the bare metal.

That's what I'm talking about.

[joe231]

cool, thanks

[collins10672]

i used por15 on a 66 short fleet i was working on back in 94.i brushed it on the inner rockers,inside of the rockers before welding them on and inside of the new cab corners.i expect it to outlast me probably,but i sold the truck in 95 and don't know what it looks like now.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by collins10672

i used por15 on a 66 short fleet i was working on back in 94.i brushed it on the inner rockers,inside of the rockers before welding them on and inside of the new cab corners.i expect it to outlast me probably,but i sold the truck in 95 and don't know what it looks like now.

That's a good idea.

[kizer]

Without going on a Sales Pitch for Por15. My plan was to paint anything and everything under the truck that is subject to boucing rocks and road salt. As well the bottoms of the cab, inner fender/exterior fender, bed supports and frame. I'm sure Rust Bullet and all the others would work as well, but thats my plan for now.

I didn't take pictures, but when I tried to bend the hairs on a brush after it sat over night the handle snapped on the brush before I could bend a brissel. Keep in mind the temp was 70 or so degrees so it had a good chance to harden. It would take longer to harden if it was cooler. I've never powder coated or sprayed automotive paint so I don't know if I would of had the same result.

Just don't get that stuff on you. It does not come off easily.

[joe231]

Originally Posted by kizer

Without going on a Sales Pitch for Por15. My plan was to paint anything and everything under the truck that is subject to boucing rocks and road salt. As well the bottoms of the cab, inner fender/exterior fender, bed supports and frame. I'm sure Rust Bullet and all the others would work as well, but thats my plan for now.

I didn't take pictures, but when I tried to bend the hairs on a brush after it sat over night the handle snapped on the brush before I could bend a brissel. Keep in mind the temp was 70 or so degrees so it had a good chance to harden. It would take longer to harden if it was cooler. I've never powder coated or sprayed automotive paint so I don't know if I would of had the same result.

Just don't get that stuff on you. It does not come off easily.

heck, I thought you were the companies PR guy

just/foolin'

[kizer]

Originally Posted by joe231

heck, I thought you were the companies PR guy

just/foolin'

Just on the second Tuesday on Odd Months. If I PR for them do you think I'll get a discount? Stuff is a bit spendy.

[joe231]

i would hope so.................
get me a discount too while you are at it

[joe231]

Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...

[Strodder]

That would make a cool custom Ice Cream Truck. Something like this one. But more hot rod type not low rider.

[TwiggyTheDrummer]

Originally Posted by joe231

Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...


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Nice. I bet you someone stole the grille.

[joe231]

your probably right............
or an employee needed it for a project

[MacAttack]

Originally Posted by joe231

Check out this truck.
I saw it in my travels for work and snapped a pic...

Always thought one of those would make a very unique, heavy-duty camper of some sort. Neat old school design that might be cool with some tinted boat windows. At least the sides and roof wouldn't disintegrate like the cheapy tin motor homes.

[kizer]

Wow that thing almost looks like an old Chevy armored truck.

[Strodder]

I called Zero Rust today. They won't even sell to me because I live in California. He told me it is like Por-15 and is chip resistant, and can be painted on with a brush. You must prepare it correctly, and it needs 2 coats. I tried to order it through the web site, and it went through. The web site said nothing about California not being able to order it. I paid through Pay Pal. We'll see what happens???