LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build

[Puropedo]

Wait,,,Am I getting this right?? You are going to be using that mustang a/c compressor to fill up your air suspension tanks?

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by Puropedo

Wait,,,Am I getting this right?? You are going to be using that mustang a/c compressor to fill up your air suspension tanks?

Actually I am using a nippondenso compressor to fill my air tanks for my suspension Most guys use the York style but they are too bulky and I have used this style for years with out failure. Plus once it is all said and done it will look like a factory set up.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[VA72C10]

Well, I for one am glad the tahoe got some much deserved attention

[LOW DOUGH]

great work Kevin! That's really neat

[Tagg33]

I've been looking into the Yorks for quite awhile now. An engine driven compressor for on board air is a very attractive idea. I look forward to seeing more on your setup. Since it was on a previous vehicle of yours I'm sure you already have all the air fittings, oiler, water trap, etc. When you get to it please show us all the parts and details, like you always do.

Do you have a part number for us on the compressor? I've been wanting to put one in this smog pump spot.

[70 Suburban]

How does the nippin denso oil... The york has an oil resivour.

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

How does the nippin denso oil... The york has an oil resivour.

Good question! Here is what I was told years ago, the york is a piston pump much like a gas engine and produces a lot of friction and needs to be oiled often. The Nip is a rotary style and the veins have some type of wear coating on them and the friction is down to almost zero. If this is true I really don't know. What I do know is this one came from the pick-n-pull and was bolted to my rock crawler and used for 2 seasons with out oil ever being added and will keep a 1/4" die grinder full throttle with the motor at 1200 rpm's.

Now if need be they sell oilers that go inline and put a drop of oil in the system how ever often you set it for but I have never used one with this style of pump. I did use them back when I was running the Yorks back in the day but like I said this Nip pump has 2 years in the crawler and who knows how long in the car I pulled it from and still pumps great.

So I guess we will see just how it does if I ever get this beast on the road

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Rokcrln]

So after about 8 hours here is were I am with my set up. I still have some bracing to do on my comp once my 10mx170 bolts come in. It is a tight but good fit.


Kevin
LFD Inc.

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[Puropedo]

. The Nip is a rotary style and the veins have some type of wear coating on them and the friction is down to almost zero. If this is true I really don't know. What I do know is this one came from the pick-n-pull and was bolted to my rock crawler and used for 2 seasons with out oil ever being added and will keep a 1/4" die grinder full throttle with the motor at 1200 rpm's.
Kevin
LFD Inc.[/QUOTE]

Kevin, what pressure readings do you think you'll be getting with that "vein compressor" in your tanks? I've heard "vein compressors" are known for air volume but not for pressure, what can you tell us about this?

[ERASER5]

That model Denso is has a swash plate and double ended pistons. No veins. The valves are reed valves. Yes, the swash plate is tin coated as that is where the piston shoes ride. I have done testing on this model many times. They are very reliable pumps and hold oil very well. In fact, dumping the oil to measure it is a time consuming job. And there are millions of them in the bone yards. The Ford FS6 compressor is a near copy and there are even more of them in the yards.

Man! I miss that job!

[woodwright]

What did these pumps come on? Both the Denso and the ford one. Is there a thread somewhere about how to convert one to an air ride compressor?

[ccreddell]

Is it a bad angle, or are you not going to run the A/C comp?

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by ccreddell

Is it a bad angle, or are you not going to run the A/C comp?

It is in the lower Passenger corner still hooked up for cabin air. It runs on its own belt that is behind the new belt.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Ackattack]

I was going to mention you could relocate the coils off of the valve covers, but it looks like you already came up with your solution.

Looks great!

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by Ackattack

I was going to mention you could relocate the coils off of the valve covers, but it looks like you already came up with your solution.

Looks great!

Trying to keep it simple looking and cheap!!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Rokcrln]

I did a bit more work on the rear floor. I shaved about 1 1/4" off the under side of the floor where it was limiting my mounting height because it sitting on the rear diff tube work. I then plated it with some 1/8" steel for reinforcement. Now by doing this my rear floor will only be 2 1/4" higher then stock but still able to lay out on a 31" tall tire

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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[70 Suburban]

There is a oiler for shop tools that you can use that will oil inline... That should work..

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by woodwright

Cool. Thanks Kevin.

What about the smaller AC Delco compressors? Will they work? They are alot more compact.

I have only used Yorks (bulky) and this kind I have here.

Originally Posted by 70 Suburban

There is a oiler for shop tools that you can use that will oil inline... That should work..

Yep thanks!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[lolife99]

Do you really want an inline oiler?
Won't that screw up the valves?

The air needs to be dry.

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Do you really want an inline oiler?
Won't that screw up the valves?

The air needs to be dry.

Well that would only be part of the set up. On the discharge side you then put an accumulator tank and an oil separator before going to the storage tanks. But in the past I have never added oil or an oiler and so far so good but if you are really going to be pumping lots of air it might be a good idea.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Puropedo]

Thanks for the compressor link, it is really informative. Do you think the compressor that comes with the 5.3 vortech can do the same job? If I ever do my 5.3 conversion I wont be using the A/C, so it would be great to be able to use it for air supply.

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by Puropedo

Thanks for the compressor link, it is really informative. Do you think the compressor that comes with the 5.3 vortech can do the same job? If I ever do my 5.3 conversion I wont be using the A/C, so it would be great to be able to use it for air supply.

I am sure it would, the hard part might be the lines. Both the SD5 (typical Sanden used in the link) and also the Nipen that I am using both have easily adaptable fittings on them. So doing the air lines would be a simpler task.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Rokcrln]

Small progress but still progress. I narrowed my rear floor 4" to match the 2" per seat I had to do for wheel tub clearance. Then I trimmed the body for the tubs to slide in and tack weld. Once the body comes off I will finish the inner wheel wells and seal it all off. When aired out I have 1/2" from the top of the tire and 5/8" from the side wall to inner tub side. Also my seats clear the tub by about 5/8" as well just enough for upholstery to clear. The second row seats will need to go forward 2" so everything clears with them as well.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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[tdave00]

Great work Kevin. I can't believe you aren't doing this for a living yet. Mucho talent brother.

[Rokcrln]

Originally Posted by toomanytoyz

Just a Couple of ??? for You

(1)Do u ever Sleep? Between Customer Builds, Your Own Builds, Constantly Coming up with New Improvements for our Trucks & Also Working a Regular JoB????????????

Their was a time between 86 & 90 were I slept a lot, but then again that was HighSchool Maybe if I listened more my spelling and grammar would be a bit better! Stay awake in school it is a short time that lasts for ever once you get out!

(2)Just out of Curiosty Do u always use the same tape measure When doing work with as close tolerances as u do? Not much Room for error with this type work??????

To be quite honest with you I do a lot of it by EYE and use the tape just to show in the pics what it is. Sure on important items I brake out the calipers and all but for this I was looking for things to clear and if I can get a finger in their when laid out then it should work. As for the tape I do really like the one in the pic. It is a SS model that was given to my by a Project Manager some years ago and it just never seems to wear out.

Anyhow, Many Thanks for Taking the Time to share with us, It Give's Hope & Inspiration to Many of us...............

Your very welcome, Now keep in mind I go through a lot of others builds on here and find cool tricks all the time as well. We all learn from each other.

Rick

Originally Posted by tdave00

Great work Kevin. I can't believe you aren't doing this for a living yet. Mucho talent brother.

I have a few other build ideas I want to get done first and on the show circuit before going full time but it will be in the next few years.

Kevin
LFD Inc.