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Re: Rat repair.
I will not buy a heater if its 3 phase, i need to plug it into my welder outlet..
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Re: Rat repair.
You could contact the manufacturer of some of these heaters and get their wiring recommendations with your criteria? Might make deciding easier or show you models you had not considered yet.
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Re: Rat repair.
That's just a phase O-Matic Rotary phase converter that are hardwired so I can just plug my three-phase equipment into it and I plug it to 220 extension cord from the welder and all the other equipment
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Re: Rat repair.
Do you still have the drain pointing to the center of your floor? It looks like a toe stumper. But the compressor look real nice. What CFM is that compressor? George
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Re: Rat repair.
This link explains what i'm talking about with a 220 3 wire VS 4 wire, houses are all single phase and businesses are 3 phase, so if its a "Garage heater" it has to be single phase.
I did find a place selling the New Air G73 and it shows 3 wires coming out of the back of the unit. I did email one place but no reply as of yet. http://www.nojolt.com/Understanding_...circuits.shtml
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Heated garage is the way.
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good luck with the heat. no need here in Florida for heat. only AC
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Why are you using electricity? Is natural gas not an option? I heat my wood shop (built into hte back 1/3 or so of the garage) with electricity. It's generally more expensive than gas, and even for my little insulated wood shop, it's definitely not cheap. I live in town, heat my house with natural gas, and simply haven't ponied up the cash and time to run a line out to the garage. Maybe that's your case, too???
That being said, any heat in a garage is better than no heat, even the more expensive electric heat. The car/truck side of my garage is not insulated and still has open trusses. I've used LP to heat it on occasion with a big mutha convection heater, but I pour through the LP, barely get the chill out of the garage, and magnify the affect of the beer I'm consuming while out there due to the heater's consumption of oxygen....
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![]() My garage is about 460 sq ft the walls are R-11 on the outer two walls with the exception of the garage doors but i'm hoping to get them replaced with insulated units this year. the ceiling is 8' and its insulated about 1' deep, above that is my upstairs bedroom. I hqave tried a kerosene heater but cant deal with the fumes, plus with the bedroom upstairs i have concerns about carbon dioxide. The good news is that it rarely ever gets below mid 20's and all i want to do is try and keep the air dry so when i do some body work i won't be fighting any potential moisture problems. I would also be to string up a plastic barrier down the middle to protect out bikes from any potential over spray that may occure, i had a little talking too last summer about over spray on Megs helmet...Woops! I spent a lot of time looking at different units and decided to buy the King unit thru Home depot, i figured if i had a problem with it i could just return it to them instead of having to ship it back. I ordered it a couple days ago. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...FQpsfgodpUMAbA So in the mean time i admittedly havent been working on the truck ![]()
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i love the little 45k btuh natural gas unit in my garage, but i had gas right there for the h2o heater so it was a no brainer. i dont know as i would have gone to the trouble of running a line if it wasnt. actually, now that i know i would have. but i shopped for electric units as well. like you said any heat is better than cold fingers.
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Well, i received my King Model# KBP2406 heater, went to Home Depot and bought 25' of SO electrical cable, a 30 amp male plug and a couple other items to get the heater hooked up and mounted to the ceiling on the outside wall about 15' away from and facing the garage door.
My first impression is kinda disappointing, both in heat and airflow, i was expecting more for a 220V heater, but it is quiet. This morning my thermometer said it was 29 degrees outside right now its about 38 per weather.com. I turned the heater on and went back in the house for my coffee, after 1 1/2 hours i went back out to check, the house door is about 15' away from the heater in the other stall, the air was warm down to about 3' level then it was pretty cold. i walked over to the other stall and about 10' in front of the heater (right next to my air compressor) it was warm to about chest level which is right in front of the heater as its angled down, but the air gaps on the garage doors are just too big, you can feel the cold air coming in from the door. any closer to the door and the heat just dissipates. Basically the heat is circling in the back half of the garage because the leak's around the doors. Once i get the doors replaced it should make quite a difference. Right now the heater is on the highest setting on the built in thermostat, it hasn't cycled off at all yet. it does have an overheat automatic shut off tho which is one of the reasons i chose it.
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That heater would work in my garage real good. I have 2 small Daton heaters that plug into 110 outlet and in about 2 hours it is warm enough I can work in my T-shirt. I do have an insulated garage door that seal good and I did install a bottom seal at my side door. All walls insulated with R13 ceiling is R30.
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Re: Rat repair.
That is going to make a big difference. A good seal on all sides of the garage door will help keep the heat in. Our garage has a 16' tall ceiling and we've got 2 large ceiling fans to push the warm air down to 1st floor level (not to mention the thermostat mounted 30' away by a man door). When we are out there the fans are running full speed. Once you get the heat to stay in the garage you might consider an extra circulating fan or 2 in the right place should help winter or summer.
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Not sure what doors you are referring to but if it is the overhead door that is not insulated a friend of mine got some insulated inserts from Menards that worked pretty slick. They were similar to batting insulation.
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Nope, garage doors actually, the ceiling is insulated tight. Thanks for the suggestion tho, they are always welcome!
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I got the top and sides of one door weather stripped today, bought the rubberised roll of stuff that ya gotta nail every 2-3 inches, it works but its time consuming, the only other stuff Home depot had was like a squeege attached to a long plastic piece, it would work if i pulled all the 1/2 X 2' wood trim around the roor and replaced it with 1/2 X3", too much work for something i may end up having to replace later. I'll get the other door tomorrow.
The bottoms are going to be another story as both doors seem to have sagged in the middle a bit, plus the floor is crowned up in the middle of both doors too, so they are solid against the floor in the middle and up about 1/8 to 1/4" on the sides. It did have worn out rubber bottom seals when i bought the house back in 89, but i don't know if i can make them latch if i put new stuff on the bottoms, will find out soon enough. Edit: It took me forever but i found out that Northern Tool sells a 3' and 6' X 3/4" air hose for compressors so i got it ordered too.
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sounds like you are getting a lot of ideas good luck George
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Stopped by to say hi and see your truck. Thank you for documenting all of your work. I'm sure I will use it to my advantage.
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Thanks for the comps too, a lot of the stuff i'm doing, and going to be doing this year is for the first time. learning as i go. did a lot of wrenching when i was in my 20's but mostly construction and farm equipment, i have a good set of skills but a bit rusty and just kinda green on the truck. the last 25 years i have worked in manufacturing, journyman machinist since 1998. I'm getting close to comming out of hybernation, just waiting for a little better weather being as my options are the driveway or under a 10X20 car cover with a muddy floor, we have had a few nice stretches of no rain but i knew they wouldn't last, trying to keep my truck dry so the rust dosen't get much worse.. Was planning on waking up this thread soon, Thanks for stopping by.
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OMG it's alive. let's keep it going.
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Well well, i pulled my truck out from under the cover today, it fired right up and ran like a top after sitting since about mid November, its really nice to know where to by Non Ethanol gas! Took my dog for a shakedown run, then drove it to work tonight, then it promptly rained while at work, go figure.
![]() So a recap, I love my compressor, i pulled out my 6" disk sander the other day and i swear i ran it for about 3 minutes before the compressor turned on, love the capacity and the quieter running motor/pump, far less obtrusive sound inside the house, usually when i forget and leave the valve open and it bleeds down at the quick disconnect, usually in the middle of the night.. ![]() My quest for space in the garage led me to spend some time building a lean to shed on the back side of the house, its got 2 shelves in it and trust me the thing is packed to the gills. Typical swamp rat fashion i still haven't painted the trusses or base, or installed front vent boards and filled in the dirt around the shed, plus i didn't use flashing around the roof edges, woops! Due to space limitations being under the house roof i had to make the roof removable, roof it on the ground then lift the 100 lb monstrosity back to the top of the shed, little over 7' at the front, by myself.... ![]() I have also spent a lot of time dealing with the local bike shop as i'm having a lot of work done to my Harley, big bore kit and new paint plus a number of changes, hopefully it will be done soon. With the added room in the garage plus moving a couple small shelves i was able to add a 4'X24"X78" free standing shelf from Home Depot, bought a few totes to store small parts and started filling it with the truck parts i have bought. One of which is a complete rebuilt tilt column i bought from a guy here on the board that i plan on installing while i have the driver fender and door off, also planning on a new quick ratio steering gear from http://www.redheadsteeringgears.com/ Back to the truck, its not much but i hammered out this gas filler delete plate before i left for work, the couture is pretty close, if i have time tomorrow i'll pull the aluminum tape and weld it in. Hibernation is over and i need to start making progress again.
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