The Project Havoc....

[nuke1]

I am doin well. Things are looking up greatly for me and the wife. As far as posting, I have missed all of you guys so much, you all are my extended family. Never met most of you but you are family. I hope to be on here more.

[Slick67]

Originally Posted by nuke1

I am doin well. Things are looking up greatly for me and the wife. As far as posting, I have missed all of you guys so much, you all are my extended family. Never met most of you but you are family. I hope to be on here more.

That would be a good thing.....just not so much drama!!!! Any new pics of projects you have been working on?!

[nuke1]

I would have new pics, but my harddrive crashed and I lost every picture I have taken since 1999!!!!!!!!! family, kids, cars, trips..... sucks so much, and to thing I was goin to go buy a extra drive to cover my arse that exact week. Gonna send it to a recovery place yet and see what they can salvage. I agree on the drama thing!!!!!!!!!!! it is a nice peacefull world on here. lol

[Slick67]

Originally Posted by nuke1

I would have new pics, but my harddrive crashed and I lost every picture I have taken since 1999!!!!!!!!! family, kids, cars, trips..... sucks so much, and to thing I was goin to go buy a extra drive to cover my arse that exact week. Gonna send it to a recovery place yet and see what they can salvage. I agree on the drama thing!!!!!!!!!!! it is a nice peacefull world on here. lol

CRAP! I invested in an external hard drive, $100 dollars can get a terabyte of memory. Hope they can get those memories back for ya. Swing by and check out my thread......you will have to go back a few pages (maybe 5) to get to the good stuff.

[watahyahknow]

i had bought a 1 terrabite ethernet hdd but lost the password/code for it after loading all my other drives on it and erased them ................ about half a terrabite of music pictures and documents and no possible way of retrieving it as the machine codes it ontoo the drives differently so it can't be hacked or recovered even if you hook up the drives to a computer

best way to safe stuff is load it ontoo dvd or cd roms
a second option is to upload it to places like photobucket or dropbox , both are free , i was lucky i loaded all my important photo's from my hollidays and stuff like that to bucket and my internet links to dropbox so not all was lost , but i needed to redownload an enourmous maount of music and still havent found everything back

[808_67C10]

Babies and suspension parts... First time I have ever seen those pics together! Haha CONGRATS Bro!
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[jonny..2008]

great thread.
like a novel. read thje first 16 pages before i fell asleep.
first thing this morning finished the thread.
and got zero research done on what i was supposed to be looking for.
this is a really talented guy.
but you all knew that.

[nuke1]

I found a company that can Save the info onmy hard drive, so wish me luck.

Originally Posted by 808_67C10

Babies and suspension parts... First time I have ever seen those pics together! Haha CONGRATS Bro!
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Lol, all was good that week, but there has been a second addition since.

Originally Posted by jonny..2008

great thread.
like a novel. read thje first 16 pages before i fell asleep.
first thing this morning finished the thread.
and got zero research done on what i was supposed to be looking for.
this is a really talented guy.
but you all knew that.

Lol, thx dude. I appreciate everything.
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[longbed67]

Wow just read your whole build in my orthopaedics class this morning took me 4 hours (had to pay attention a little) what a trip with the DOT crap. joined your group on FB anything that can be done to protect hot rodding needs to be done! Rock on!

[nuke1]

Originally Posted by longbed67

Wow just read your whole build in my orthopaedics class this morning took me 4 hours (had to pay attention a little) what a trip with the DOT crap. joined your group on FB anything that can be done to protect hot rodding needs to be done! Rock on!

HAHA, Thanks dude, I appreciate all of that, at least you had something worth while reading through a boring class, I appreciate the time that you wasted to read my little thread!!!!! and thanks

[nuke1]

Soooooo, I have a crazy idea running through my head, my trans is practically done, I have that viper 6 speed sitting there, hmmmmm think it would be cool in my truck, drop my bench down a couple of inchesm lower the truck another 2 inches and then I am also thinking about putting a TBI system on the truck, obviously one rated for the HP. sick of dealing with the carb issues. Think this would be fesible????? Would be a great driver then. OPINIONS????

[longbed67]

How are you going to mate the viper trans to the chevy motor??

[nuke1]

There is adapters that are available to do it, run a twin disc clutch for a ls motor, aftermarket bell housing and a new clutch pedal assembly. About 1200 bucks would cover it. Plus I will have to make a new interesting shifter for it.

[longbed67]

That would be pretty sick, but I think you might need to add to your engine to match the capabilities of your trans!

[watahyahknow]

the magic word here is turbo's

[longbed67]

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

the magic word here is turbo's

I like the sound of those!!!! ( hint plural) so yes Twins!

[watahyahknow]

start plowing through this topic http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/th...art-2-to-come/ it will make youre eyes open to wat it actually takes
the man in question blew up his build motor and took a high milage 350 v8 out of a van got a used cam out of a trashcan cleaned it mounted it put on the same turbosetup from his fragged block on it and ran it like he stole it expecting it to blow up , it never did ..... he did done a good job tuning the injectionsystem though
i collected all the info on the build from the whole story and compiled them in one post somewhere in the story , i suggest you get a sixpack of brew some food and sit down and start reading for a couple days

[nuke1]

Originally Posted by longbed67

That would be pretty sick, but I think you might need to add to your engine to match the capabilities of your trans!

LOL, maybe you are right!!!

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

the magic word here is turbo's

LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!! that is a very magical word in my eyes.

Originally Posted by longbed67

I like the sound of those!!!! ( hint plural) so yes Twins!

Nothing better than twins and what they can do for you!

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

start plowing through this topic http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/th...art-2-to-come/ it will make youre eyes open to wat it actually takes
the man in question blew up his build motor and took a high milage 350 v8 out of a van got a used cam out of a trashcan cleaned it mounted it put on the same turbosetup from his fragged block on it and ran it like he stole it expecting it to blow up , it never did ..... he did done a good job tuning the injectionsystem though
i collected all the info on the build from the whole story and compiled them in one post somewhere in the story , i suggest you get a sixpack of brew some food and sit down and start reading for a couple days

I will do that, my only problem is I have 10.5:1 compression, not sure how that will work with the turbo, but you never know. Man would that be one sick sounding truck I would have. now my head is just spinning. I agree on the turbo thing. If you go ove to LS1 truck. there is a guy my Quik1 and he has a turbo 4.8l that handled 800hp all day long with just a vette bumpstick!! makes you think.

[hgs_notes]

Lowering compression is easy enough to do if you are worried about it. Thicker head gaskets, a little porting, etc. But people have been turbo-ing stock motors with a higher than ideal compression for years. Just depends how much boost you are running and then timing. Cam timing can also be adjusted to help with that.

EFI is the way to go man. Carbs are great for daily drivers, but let them sit too much and its a PITA. I get by with a cheap old used set up, but would have prefered one of the new FAST systems. Just didn't have the $1700-2000 it takes to get one at the time. And I just have an old 283 in my truck, so it works until I go with something newer bigger and badder.

But now you are talking about a lot of work on Havoc again. Going to put off the next project a while so you can spend the winter doing this? Either way is fine by me, I just like to see your work.

[watahyahknow]

om planning on running impco gascarbs and propane myself , theres a boostrefference build intoo those setups you only need to put in a small extra line from carbbase to vaporizer , you can use a normal size pressure line but its wize to hook up 2 impco E vaporizers to keep the ar ratio good at the highest boost , thinking about running little over one bar thats about 14.5 psi
the engine is a 1977 454 in a C25 pickup
thinking about twin holset hx50's or garrett 4088's for turbo's both are available here at truck wreckingyards DAF and cummins ran them a lot
im trying to use as mush of the shelve stuff as i can , using a stainless version long tube headers the small piece of pipe on that with the propper flange for headers on one end and the turbo's on the other and wastegates in the bend of the piping (the turbos will be sitting in place of the gastanks under the benchseathump of the cab ) will be the only real welding job then go on with a resonable normal exaust from the turbo and out the back
the only thing i need extra for this is some longer oilline and chargepipe (thinking on running two to the front under the sills and up the inner and outer fender to a pressurebox over the carb) and a scavengepump to get the used oil from the turbo's back to the top of the motor

[nuke1]

So I priced out the parts for the trans conversion, this is minus the clutch pedal assembly. A little pricey, but.... still need to redo my driveshaft now, darnit.

8710-16 Tremec 1992-2010 ; T-56 From a Viper $635.00
6911-07 GM 1955-1985 ; Large Diameter Flywheel. 1-1/8 x 26 Input $900.00
460130 CHEVROLET 1955-1985 V8 ; SBC/BBC, 0-Bal,#30,168T R/G. Patt: 4,5,7 $380.00
14-3025 CHEVROLET,DODGE,FORD 1955-2012 V8 ; TREMEC T-56 (INLCUDING MAGNUM). INCLUDES BEARING RETAINER,W/AN-4 FITTINGS. $700.00

As for the turbos and fuel injection, I just phoned a friend that does that stuff and he is gonna look into it for me. He builds injection systems and plays alot with turbos. Sooo, you guys have me seriously thinking. Cory is trying to tell me either the fast or holley system, but man I would love to do a sheetmetal intake still.

Probaly a different set of pistons in her, plus a few other things, I jsut see dollar signs now!!!!!! ouchy.

[watahyahknow]

you could run an overdrive unit as whell there not cheap either though but that gives you an 8 or 10 speed

[jonny..2008]

RE: $$ signs....you cant take it with you, but you can throw it at the truck and get there quicker.

or it might be cheaper do what the new twin turbo v8 beemer m does......http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/op...gine.html?_r=1 you do have a stereo in havoc?

[nuke1]

Originally Posted by watahyahknow

you could run an overdrive unit as whell there not cheap either though but that gives you an 8 or 10 speed

LOL, you sure like to spend my money!! lol. my head is a spinnin.

Originally Posted by jonny..2008

RE: $$ signs....you cant take it with you, but you can throw it at the truck and get there quicker.

or it might be cheaper do what the new twin turbo v8 beemer m does......http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/26/op...gine.html?_r=1 you do have a stereo in havoc?

I do have a stereo, and wow that is crazy, I want one but not so sure if I am allowed to sit in a nice car like that.

[nuke1]

Also thinking of something like this for all 4 corners, I want to get rid of the shocks and springs. this is more what I want. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-P...oke,44744.html

Man I wish i was made of money, but I am not, all dreams. maybe one day. Until then this will just be my new dream thread for Havoc.

So for now thewish list is up to:

Fuel injection
coilovers
new fromt lighter crossmember with a rack in it
6 speed
maybe a turbo

then of course a full finish.

Does anyone know someone that can do a rendering. I would really love one done of the final product of havoc. Let me know. thanks