Kabwe's aka Bam's build

[Kabwe]

Hey xpickup aka Shannon

I remember we were talking a talking sheetmetal so I snapped this pics for you. I used a 3/32 2% ceriated tungsten and 1/16 filler rod and tried to keep the smallest HAZ I could. Tig sheetmetal is great you can see how low the bead profile is and some of the metal finishing I started. Man you can hammer and dolly that HAZ to your hearts desire.

[hotrod1]

what is the purpose to hammer haz? Is it done a certain way?

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by hotrod1

what is the purpose to hammer haz? Is it done a certain way?

The HAZ is the Heat Affected Zone. So lets say after you finished welding in a patch panel the panel was warped. When the heat from welding pulled or shrink the metal it could have affected other areas of the panel. Do not start your hammering on the warped area only hammer the HAZ because it will put metal back in its proper place. You will find the area that was warped is not warp anymore because it stretch the metal back to where it was orginally. I hope that makes since.

[hotrod1]

Thanks. Do you do this with all haz areas after welding sheetmetal as a general rule? Also, what did u make the slapper from?

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by hotrod1

Thanks. Do you do this with all haz areas after welding sheetmetal as a general rule? Also, what did u make the slapper from?

Yes all HAZ areas if I have access to the back of the panel. If not I'm extra slow and care for when welding in a patch without access to the back of the panel because I can't do hammer and dolly work. Welding causes shrinkage some times very little but it always causes shrinkage. If you don't have access to the rear of the panel be extra careful. I usually mig because its faster plus the thing I really like about tig welding sheetmetal is the hammer and dolly work.


I made that slapper from some 1/4 thick metal you can also make them from old leaf springs. I have several slappers but I wanted one that was flat.

[duallyjams]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Hey xpickup aka Shannon

I remember we were talking a talking sheetmetal so I snapped this pics for you. I used a 3/32 tungsten and 1/16 filler rod and tried to keep the smallest HAZ I could. Tig sheetmetal is great you can see how low the bead profile is and some of the metal finishing I started. Man you can hammer and dolly that HAZ to your hearts desire.

What heat range did you use for the tig for the fender.

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by duallyjams

What heat range did you use for the tig for the fender.

I set my welder at 50 amps which is way more than enough for 18 gauge sheet metal. I just really control the heat with the foot control.

[oldman3]

Kabwe, thanks for the lesson on sheet metal work. You do a great job and its good to see you pass along your knowledge....Jim

[Kim57]

Great info Bam.
Kim

[Rods57]

Nice work, that's going to come out excellent.

[Fat Mike]

Thanks for the tutorial. Every bit of info helps. Also I am sorry to hear about your friend and know that he would be happy to see the progress you have made on the fenders he gave you.

[Breader]

great tips thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Bam,
You could be STANDING OVER ME; hell you could be holding my hand while I tried to do that and I couldn't...so I'm not gonna tease you about any video. The red marker trick is cool. Any reason for that as opposed to the usual rattle can paint?

I don't know jack about the whole on dolly/off dolly hammering, etc. I suppose I'll do what everyone else does that doesn't have unlimited funds - LEARN! Usually by doing it wrong and redoing it! Ha ha.

Curious: Realisitically, when do you think your truck will likely go for final paint? This summer by any chance? Can't WAIT to see that. You don't want me color sanding but when you get to that point, if you need a "Hey Kid, bring me the.... guy" I'd love to be that kid. Best, Dan

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

Bam,
You could be STANDING OVER ME; hell you could be holding my hand while I tried to do that and I couldn't...so I'm not gonna tease you about any video. The red marker trick is cool. Any reason for that as opposed to the usual rattle can paint?

I don't know jack about the whole on dolly/off dolly hammering, etc. I suppose I'll do what everyone else does that doesn't have unlimited funds - LEARN! Usually by doing it wrong and redoing it! Ha ha.

Curious: Realisitically, when do you think your truck will likely go for final paint? This summer by any chance? Can't WAIT to see that. You don't want me color sanding but when you get to that point, if you need a "Hey Kid, bring me the.... guy" I'd love to be that kid. Best, Dan

The reason for the marker is I don't have to wait for it to dry like I would with spray paint. They do sale spray on guide coat that drys pretty fast but that could get expensive. I just buy the big wide tip markers and I don't care about the color red was the only color I had.

As far as paint I don't know man I hope by this summer but I'm not going to rush it. If it happens I would be happy because I tired.lol

[Dan in Pasadena]

Yes, I think so. Does the same apply if its a hammer you're using OR the slapper? And what's really the purpose of the slapper over the hammer? Just a larger tool striking a larger area?

[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

Yes, I think so. Does the same apply if its a hammer you're using OR the slapper? And what's really the purpose of the slapper over the hammer? Just a larger tool striking a larger area?

Yes sir. I use both depending on the situation.

[Dan in Pasadena]

Ok Bam, thanks for the mini tutorial. Cant wait to see this beast in person.

Only problem with that is you'll be thinking of a new project right afterward. A Deuce roadster would make a nice companion piece to your pair of Tri-Fives. Oh, gotta be Chev?y How about a nice wagon?

[Kabwe]

Nope I'm done. I have the two rides I want plus no room buddy.

[Rods57]

So you said you made your slapping spoon? was it easy to build?

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Nope I'm done. I have the two rides I want plus no room buddy.

I know you THINK you're "done" but I truly feel you're not. I think you secretly know you'll sell one of your vehicles and build another....eventually. You're a young man and too talented to only sell your abilities to others. What're you gonna do? Take up gardening? Stamp collecting?

It's an addiction, it's Meth, crack, horse, blow to us all.
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[Kabwe]

Originally Posted by focusedontheprize

Kabwe -

The truck is looking excellent. It always amazes some of my friends when my old man (one of the best body men I know) is working a piece of metal and are dumbfounded when people spend hours on a fender or a hood. I always tell them "the great body men can get by with almost no filler".

I one day hope to be able to say the same on my work.

Good luck on the rest of the truck.

Thank you so much for the compliments. Yes great body man can, but me I still have to use filler I just use very little. If I can get away with a skim coat of filler or use a polyester primer I call it a day. I seen guys who can metal finish to the point of using only primer as filler (not polyester regular 2k primer). I'm not at the point but I would someday like to be. I think sevt_chevelle is. Those are true metal man I only mess around.lol

Originally Posted by Rods57

Cool idea, thanks. I have some springs here just taken up space. I wont even say anything mean after that tip, thanks.

Yeah keep your mouth shut after you say thank you.lol

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

I know you THINK you're "done" but I truly feel you're not. I think you secretly know you'll sell one of your vehicles and build another....eventually. You're a young man and too talented to only sell your abilities to others. What're you gonna do? Take up gardening? Stamp collecting?

It's an addiction, it's Meth, crack, horse, blow to us all.
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Nope hopefully I will be dead and gone before the my car is sold (I would have to be in a extreme financial bind to sell it) and I decided not to sale the truck.

As far as what I will do. Man they are never finish so I will rebuild them.lol There is only one other ride I would like to have but it cost too much and I don't have the room. So thats out. I will just be happy to have two of the rides I have always wanted.

Yes it is addicting that's why we can redo them in a couple of years.

[Kabwe]

Yeah I made one of them. If you have some old leaf springs they make good slappers. Just cut out the shape and heat and bend the handle part. Polish the part that will be slapped against the metal.

[Rods57]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Yeah I made one of them. If you have some old leaf springs they make good slappers. Just cut out the shape and heat and bend the handle part. Polish the part that will be slapped against the metal.

Cool idea, thanks. I have some springs here just taken up space. I wont even say anything mean after that tip, thanks.

[mknittle]

Originally Posted by Kabwe

Yeah I made one of them. If you have some old leaf springs they make good slappers. Just cut out the shape and heat and bend the handle part. Polish the part that will be slapped against the metal.

Thanks Kabwe, great idea making the slapper. Guess what I will be making soon! that will be a good addition to my home made T dollys.I am a huge fan of home made tools!

[focusedontheprize]

Kabwe -

The truck is looking excellent. It always amazes some of my friends when my old man (one of the best body men I know) is working a piece of metal and are dumbfounded when people spend hours on a fender or a hood. I always tell them "the great body men can get by with almost no filler".

I one day hope to be able to say the same on my work.

Good luck on the rest of the truck.