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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
yeah.. we got off subject from the 69 Camaro valance for a bit... but thats still what Im going to go with.
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Well I like the hood and the function it serves. After thought? Huh... I don't know why you think that. That truck was built for one thing and that was to go fast and take curves. The truck can handle it's own against most stock vetts! Going straight are on a road course.
How about this one. This is Rob's of 'No Limit's' Hellboy and it is one bad truck and it happens to be of our own years also. By the way both of these trucks are members on here and vendors. I'm sure either one would help you get the hood are the spoilers. ![]() ![]()
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1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 ![]() Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs. Last edited by Andy4639; 11-22-2014 at 11:31 PM. |
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
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As far as lightness, the gain from going from steel to fiberglass will drop the weight of the hood by half, carbon fiber will drop the weight maybe 10-20% from fiberglass, so it's diminishing gains from exponential prices, fiberglass is hundreds, carbon is thousands. carbon is sexy and it's high tech, but an aluminum radiator will shed more weight than a carbon hood if you've already gone fiberglass, just sayin'. Robs Hellboy is really a race truck, lots more going on with that truck than a couple body mods and some suspension tweaks, there is a build thread of it around here somewhere. These truck, done right, can handle really well, despite the pretty terrible aerodynamics, because they are very wide it makes them really stable. A Blazer has the same wheelbase as a C6 'Vette but it's 6 inches wider. |
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I only brought it up because you all mentioned the hoods. Yes both the said trucks are proven race trucks. I'm sure they have more in their wheel's than I have in my whole truck.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() One of my favorite pictures of Hellboy! Here is another Optima challenge truck it looks a lot like the drawing. This one was the one I was looking for to begin with.
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Well IF the holes are piped directly to the intake then they would serve nicely as ram air intakes... if they just are open holes to the engine bay then I see your question.
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Now this one I like. Its close to the look Im going for.
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Yea, but that was kind of my point, all those "Ram Air" systems from the '60s didn't really work very well.
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wow that was a ramble sorry.... I just love performance technology.... ![]()
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Ram Air has all kinds of issues, the ill effects of pressurizing carburetors is just one of them. In most of the '60 applications of forward facing hood scoops air pressure and density were all over the place as humidity, altitude, attitude, and temperature changed, basically guaranteeing an inconsistent air fuel mixture. Same holds true, to a lesser degree, of electronic fuel injection, most of the OEM PCUs are not really fast enough to adapt to wildly changing intake air quality which is what a crude velocity based attempt at free forced induction gives you. Best thing you are going to be able to do for consistency is to give an engine a cool air source without turbulence at predictable pressures. To try and force some inconsistent air source into a engine based on aerodynamic guesses will lead to combustion that is constantly varying between rich (dirty) and lean (destructive).
...and yes that is why cowl induction type scoops or rearward facing scoops basically replaced all other types. |
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Exactly... carbureted turbo setups don't work well.... not nearly as well as efi. A blow through carbureted turbo (where the turbo is before the carb) are really hard to get right. You need a high cfm carb, the jetting needs to be perfect, and you need high fuel pressure and float bowl air pressure.
A suck through (where the carb is before the turbo) is much easier to manage. Because the air is being pulled through the carb by demand rather than being forced into it. When the throttle body closes the pull stops. This is why superchargers are so effective, and usually have the carb(s) on top. both have disadvantages. Push through are really hard to get right and maintain tune, while the pull through turbos run the risk of ignition in the turbo. superchargers dont run the risk of ignition because they dont use hot exhaust to spin the turbo, they are belt driven....but they rob initial hp. like my performance/dyno teacher used to say "theres no free lunch"
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
A lot of blow through boosted setups in the carbureted days used pressure boxes, where the whole carb was incased in a box so that the carb was operating under a higher relative pressure. By doing it this way pressure differentials from the floats to seals, etc., are the same as they would be at normal atmospheric pressure with a raised relative baseline. It's how all the Paxton superchargers in Shelbys and Avantis were set up. I don't think any of the factory carbureted turbo setups (Saab, Buick, Trans Am, Corvair, Porsche) were blow through, I think they were all draw through which is simpler to setup and get to run, but has the disadvantage of lag and surge which all those early setups had in spades. Stomp on the pedal..one Mississippi, two Mississippi, holy crap!
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
The wait is over, lol
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I saw it on F/B and it is awesome man, nice work. Now when are we going to see the real deal, that is the question!
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Looked at this three different time before i noticed the C/28 emblems lol Thats awesome!
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
This thread keeps on coming up so I thought you guys would like seeing this truck from super nationals. Not a valance but it does have camaro ties
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
that Some Bish took my idea! lol
Damn thats BEAUTIFUL! And Exactly what Im going for! Thanks for sharing that
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I think I got a woody looking at that ![]() Peace
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Here the thread the black pic came from.... I actually thought it was a real truck. Member Hellaflush3d did these. Nice renderings!
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=665510
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Thats an awesome rendering bud... I wounder if you could do one with a SS grill with the hide away headlights for me?
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Re: 69 Camaro front valance and spoiler on a 67 c10?
Love the C/28 emblem
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I like that touch to.
I also would like a c z 10 emblem for it! ![]()
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