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72armyswbtruck · 09-20-2007, 10:40 AM

I can't wait to hear it fire up someday

arkracing · 09-20-2007, 02:18 PM

Looks like those back 3 cly's cleaned up well though - that's a good sign

I say paint it - I like black myself. I think Chevy orange will be way to much on that thing (but it does appear to have been orange from the start huh?

cayoterun · 09-20-2007, 03:27 PM

They were originally red, but sun faded to orange. I'm painting it red/w black accessories.

Shaft still standard and bearings were in good shape. Cylinders cleaned up real good with light honing. All the pistons are back in, except one. Something dinged it up when the head or whatever blew. Off to the junkyards to find a .30 over high altitude. Anyone have one/w rings?
Finding new parts is history, so it's junkyard shopping for them. If I can get a piston, hope to be running in stand in a couple of weeks.

If & when she does run, I'll get my son to post a video/w sound if he can. They have a sound all their own.

Thanks for all the imput.
Cayoterun

cayoterun · 09-23-2007, 02:10 PM

Piston: Jeffspower, I don't think I want to try this one, would you? This pic makes the piston look like it has an upturned lip near burned/broken spot. It's not, it a flat piston and the oval is raised a tad.

Truck: What year model is it? It offers more and better set-up than the crew-cab. The crew-cab has no value for this project. This truck has standard clutch set-up, power steering, bed, shorter wheel-base, would be a lot easier for air flow front to back, and keep the work/ratty look, etc. I have the option of either.
Imput?
Thanks,
Cayoterun

cayoterun · 09-30-2007, 08:31 PM

Hoo-rah! The elusive piston has been found and installed.
Tried all sources mentioned above plus others. Found one in junked motor locally.
Maybe reassembly can get started tomorrow.

If anyone considers trying to rebuild a V-12, be prepared for lots of headaches trying to find parts. Over time, many different bores and types of pistons have been used in these motors. Matching pistons seems to be one of the golden items.
Thanks for all suggestions
Cayoterun

jeffspower · 10-01-2007, 12:39 AM

Awh heck, a little tig work, some time on a lathe and a little knurling could have saved it

Glad you found a replacement- sounds like you found a needle in the haystack.

cayoterun · 10-01-2007, 10:26 PM

Jeffspower, Your good with that tig! #10 lookin' good. Heads and pan back on today.
Thanks,
Cayoterun

jeffspower · 10-01-2007, 10:52 PM

I can't wait to hear it run! It would be cool just to leave on a running stand for a while, just so you could build all sorts of header setups to see what different sounds it would make. 6/1 collector with dual 4' pipes, 3/1 (x2 per side) with quad 2-1/4" pipes, 2/1 (3 per side) into one collector- how about zoomies

**Palf70Step** · 10-02-2007, 09:10 PM

That is so cool looking, but my head hurst thinking about you timing it.

That will be wild when you get it into the crew cab!!

sick69 · 10-05-2007, 07:42 AM

Here is a link to a b-702

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BX_zDx-aiog

Frank

cayoterun · 10-05-2007, 05:46 PM

We've about reached the point-of-no-return on the motor, at least. We have a complete 702. Just noticed the hat---it was an option in '64. Still lots of adjusting, tweaking yet. Still have a flywheel-starter problem to iron out. Just take some more shopping.
Plan to take 7-10 days off for R&R in the TT.
Food for thought: As said early in this project, there's no telling where this project would lead.
I bought the '62 GMC from a long time friend last night. He bought it new and still has a good title. Good titles are valuable property in our state. The crew-cab as well as the 78? chev yellow flat-bed, titles are possible, but a hassle.
Based on ya'lls imput, local availability, and cost, why not take the frame and bed from the '78?, graft the cab and front clip of the '62 GMC? I have access to other pickups of the same vintage for the doors, hood, and then it would be a smooth cab & clip. We would end up with a totally legitimate '62 GMC 1ton with a V-12?
Progress: One bolt at a time
Cayoterun

cayoterun · 10-15-2007, 08:43 PM

All V12s are not the same.

The starter was missing on this engine. Picked up couple from junkpiles. Starter drives were too short and sit too far from the ring-gear. Measured about 6-7 and they were the same. Finally measured flywheels, mine was 16 1/2" diameter, and for a double disc clutch, the rest 15 1/2" and for single disc. Had to spend the day changing the flywheel and housing, so the small starters would work. No telling what this engine was originally built for, and ended up new on a pump.
May get to test spin on starter tomorrow, but still have to rewire around the safety switches, put propane kits in carbs, and other odds and ends before the big crank attempt.
Just hope I got all the water and oil passages cleaned out. Glad I have alot of junk motors to rob and farmers will let me do it. I think they are just wondering if this thing will ever fly,-- I am too, but it's fun.
One bolt at a time, then do it again-
Cayoterun

**Palf70Step** · 10-15-2007, 09:16 PM

I like the idea of it going into the 62, but either (any setup) would be cool for that!

cayoterun · 10-15-2007, 09:51 PM

It looks like the '62 will be in the end product somehow due to the title. He called today and said it was in his hand. It was last tagged in '72. He put over 200,000 on that V6, before it shucked. He's elderly and been a great friend, so pickup and motor combined will also bring back memories of many good crops as well as some bad ones.
Cayoterun

Storm Chaser · 10-16-2007, 07:18 PM

I wish I could come across one of those engines. Just watching yours take shape gives me images of one installed in a lengthened T-bucket frame. I can just see it now with four chrome valve covers...

cayoterun · 10-16-2007, 09:44 PM

They are really durable, easy to work on, simple, except ignition, then it's not bad after learning the sequence. Left cap feeds left bank, Right cap right. If one side quits, it will run on 6 cylinders. Anyone here who has used one talks about them like an old favorite workhorse. They sure like fuel, tho.

The T-bucket with engine out in the open would make one whale of a show-piece. The main disadvantage is dealing with the weight of them and tranny. I'd like to see someone build one like that.

I like to watch your beast develope. It's going to be a nice one. Keep twisting those bolts.

Thanks to all for your support, ideas, and comments.
Cayoterun

cayoterun · 10-19-2007, 10:41 AM

The V12 project needs to be postponed due to family illness in Az.

All prayers and good thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks,
Cayoterun

NONHOG · 10-31-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm Chaser

I wish I could come across one of those engines. Just watching yours take shape gives me images of one installed in a lengthened T-bucket frame. I can just see it now with four chrome valve covers...

I can see that too ! How cool that'd be

cayoterun · 10-31-2007, 07:32 PM

Man, Storm-Chaser, I'd appreciate that.
I don't have any pic straight from the side of them, but as soon as I get home, I'll get some.
When I worked on the other projects in the past, I'd buy a model, paint, change, and fiddle with it 'til I got what I wanted, then sit it on a shelf in the shop.
Made a good incentive to keep going when I would get stumped.
Thanks for the offer,
Cayoterun

sick69 · 10-19-2007, 10:53 AM

Best wishes to your family!

Frank

Storm Chaser · 10-19-2007, 11:17 AM

The engine can wait... family illness cannot. Please relay my best wishes and prayers.

cayoterun · 10-28-2007, 10:44 PM

Sitting in Az.
Health issues stable, so leaves time to think about project. Good therapy.

I'm thinking of using the crewcab frame & running gear, maybe need to shorten it some.
Use the 9' flatbed from the yellow truck. Maybe add tool boxes under it.
Trying to get a Western hauler look.
Do our best not to raise the truck any higher than a typical one ton, even lower it just a tad. I'm not a young as I used to be.
Use the '62 gmc front clip and cab.
Extend the hood and rear of fenders BACK 24-26" and mount the cab 24-26" back giving room for all the engine to be under the extended hood. That would allow the cab to remain stock, tranny in conventional location and the engine could all be seen with hood up.
I'm trying to picture that combo, but seems fairly easy to accomplish. I wish I could get a picture in my mind of what that long low critter would look like.
What's the flaws in this line of thinking both mechanically and over-all appearance? When it's finished to be as safe mechanically as the '97.
It's easy to see alot of you guys ideas is coming into play here.
Thanks,
Cayoterun

Storm Chaser · 10-31-2007, 01:46 PM

Do you have any dead-on side shot pics of the truck? If so, I can come up with something crude to maybe help visually. It wouldn't be professional- I use MS Paint, and have no idea how to do the things the photoshop wiz's do. It'd be similar to what I've done with my pics in the Truck-Ouside-The-Box thread.

Storm Chaser · 10-31-2007, 07:52 PM

I've been wanting to do the same thing for my project, but I can't seem to find any Kodiak/Topkick models.

neev_nav · 11-13-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm Chaser

I've been wanting to do the same thing for my project, but I can't seem to find any Kodiak/Topkick models.

Get a toy of the Transformer Ironhide. It's a Topkick crewcab.

09-20-2007, 02:18 PM	#2
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Looks like those back 3 cly's cleaned up well though - that's a good sign I say paint it - I like black myself. I think Chevy orange will be way to much on that thing (but it does appear to have been orange from the start huh? __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered Last edited by arkracing; 09-20-2007 at 02:18 PM.

09-20-2007, 03:27 PM	#3
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab They were originally red, but sun faded to orange. I'm painting it red/w black accessories. Shaft still standard and bearings were in good shape. Cylinders cleaned up real good with light honing. All the pistons are back in, except one. Something dinged it up when the head or whatever blew. Off to the junkyards to find a .30 over high altitude. Anyone have one/w rings? Finding new parts is history, so it's junkyard shopping for them. If I can get a piston, hope to be running in stand in a couple of weeks. If & when she does run, I'll get my son to post a video/w sound if he can. They have a sound all their own. Thanks for all the imput. Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500.

09-23-2007, 02:10 PM	#4
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Piston: Jeffspower, I don't think I want to try this one, would you? This pic makes the piston look like it has an upturned lip near burned/broken spot. It's not, it a flat piston and the oval is raised a tad. Truck: What year model is it? It offers more and better set-up than the crew-cab. The crew-cab has no value for this project. This truck has standard clutch set-up, power steering, bed, shorter wheel-base, would be a lot easier for air flow front to back, and keep the work/ratty look, etc. I have the option of either. Imput? Thanks, Cayoterun Attached Images __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 09-24-2007 at 08:50 AM.

09-30-2007, 08:31 PM	#5
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Hoo-rah! The elusive piston has been found and installed. Tried all sources mentioned above plus others. Found one in junked motor locally. Maybe reassembly can get started tomorrow. If anyone considers trying to rebuild a V-12, be prepared for lots of headaches trying to find parts. Over time, many different bores and types of pistons have been used in these motors. Matching pistons seems to be one of the golden items. Thanks for all suggestions Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 09-30-2007 at 08:34 PM.

10-01-2007, 12:39 AM	#6
jeffspower Well, Whoop-dee-do! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Easton, Mo. pop.- me & scarcely a few others Posts: 2,302	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Awh heck, a little tig work, some time on a lathe and a little knurling could have saved it Glad you found a replacement- sounds like you found a needle in the haystack. __________________ '68 GMC shortbox 4x4 350/SM465/T221- bought it in '83 SOLD '72 K20 500 Cad/TH400/NP205 SOLD '92 Chevy 2500 6.5 mech TD 4L80E crusty daily driver '72 Monte Carlo... sweet low mile toy '11 Dodge Challenger IE 392 6spd... midlife car

09-20-2007, 10:40 AM	#1
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab I can't wait to hear it fire up someday __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

10-01-2007, 10:26 PM	#7
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Jeffspower, Your good with that tig! #10 lookin' good. Heads and pan back on today. Thanks, Cayoterun Attached Images __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500.

10-01-2007, 10:52 PM	#8
jeffspower Well, Whoop-dee-do! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Easton, Mo. pop.- me & scarcely a few others Posts: 2,302	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab I can't wait to hear it run! It would be cool just to leave on a running stand for a while, just so you could build all sorts of header setups to see what different sounds it would make. 6/1 collector with dual 4' pipes, 3/1 (x2 per side) with quad 2-1/4" pipes, 2/1 (3 per side) into one collector- how about zoomies __________________ '68 GMC shortbox 4x4 350/SM465/T221- bought it in '83 SOLD '72 K20 500 Cad/TH400/NP205 SOLD '92 Chevy 2500 6.5 mech TD 4L80E crusty daily driver '72 Monte Carlo... sweet low mile toy '11 Dodge Challenger IE 392 6spd... midlife car

10-02-2007, 09:10 PM	#9
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,090	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab That is so cool looking, but my head hurst thinking about you timing it. That will be wild when you get it into the crew cab!! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

10-05-2007, 07:42 AM	#10
sick69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: colorado springs colorado Posts: 737	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Here is a link to a b-702 http://youtube.com/watch?v=BX_zDx-aiog Frank __________________ 70 chevy lwb c10 454/th400 and a 9" rearend suicide doors, marker light fuel fill, 4" cowl , mini tub

10-05-2007, 05:46 PM	#11
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab We've about reached the point-of-no-return on the motor, at least. We have a complete 702. Just noticed the hat---it was an option in '64. Still lots of adjusting, tweaking yet. Still have a flywheel-starter problem to iron out. Just take some more shopping. Plan to take 7-10 days off for R&R in the TT. Food for thought: As said early in this project, there's no telling where this project would lead. I bought the '62 GMC from a long time friend last night. He bought it new and still has a good title. Good titles are valuable property in our state. The crew-cab as well as the 78? chev yellow flat-bed, titles are possible, but a hassle. Based on ya'lls imput, local availability, and cost, why not take the frame and bed from the '78?, graft the cab and front clip of the '62 GMC? I have access to other pickups of the same vintage for the doors, hood, and then it would be a smooth cab & clip. We would end up with a totally legitimate '62 GMC 1ton with a V-12? Progress: One bolt at a time Cayoterun Attached Images __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 10-06-2007 at 11:52 AM.

10-15-2007, 08:43 PM	#12
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab All V12s are not the same. The starter was missing on this engine. Picked up couple from junkpiles. Starter drives were too short and sit too far from the ring-gear. Measured about 6-7 and they were the same. Finally measured flywheels, mine was 16 1/2" diameter, and for a double disc clutch, the rest 15 1/2" and for single disc. Had to spend the day changing the flywheel and housing, so the small starters would work. No telling what this engine was originally built for, and ended up new on a pump. May get to test spin on starter tomorrow, but still have to rewire around the safety switches, put propane kits in carbs, and other odds and ends before the big crank attempt. Just hope I got all the water and oil passages cleaned out. Glad I have alot of junk motors to rob and farmers will let me do it. I think they are just wondering if this thing will ever fly,-- I am too, but it's fun. One bolt at a time, then do it again- Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 10-15-2007 at 09:42 PM.

10-15-2007, 09:16 PM	#13
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,090	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab I like the idea of it going into the 62, but either (any setup) would be cool for that! __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

10-15-2007, 09:51 PM	#14
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab It looks like the '62 will be in the end product somehow due to the title. He called today and said it was in his hand. It was last tagged in '72. He put over 200,000 on that V6, before it shucked. He's elderly and been a great friend, so pickup and motor combined will also bring back memories of many good crops as well as some bad ones. Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 10-15-2007 at 09:55 PM.

10-16-2007, 07:18 PM	#15
Storm Chaser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Indiana Corn Posts: 449	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab I wish I could come across one of those engines. Just watching yours take shape gives me images of one installed in a lengthened T-bucket frame. I can just see it now with four chrome valve covers... __________________ 1988 R2500 Crew Cab Immediate plans- get it running! Future plans- Rear disc swap & Hydroboost Dually conversion with shackle flip-n-switch 4x4 conversion with 52" springs Maybe some new body panels Who needs a car when they make crew cab trucks?



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10-16-2007, 09:44 PM	#16
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab They are really durable, easy to work on, simple, except ignition, then it's not bad after learning the sequence. Left cap feeds left bank, Right cap right. If one side quits, it will run on 6 cylinders. Anyone here who has used one talks about them like an old favorite workhorse. They sure like fuel, tho. The T-bucket with engine out in the open would make one whale of a show-piece. The main disadvantage is dealing with the weight of them and tranny. I'd like to see someone build one like that. I like to watch your beast develope. It's going to be a nice one. Keep twisting those bolts. Thanks to all for your support, ideas, and comments. Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500.

10-19-2007, 10:41 AM	#17
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab The V12 project needs to be postponed due to family illness in Az. All prayers and good thoughts are appreciated. Thanks, Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 10-19-2007 at 10:43 AM.

10-31-2007, 07:32 PM	#19
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Man, Storm-Chaser, I'd appreciate that. I don't have any pic straight from the side of them, but as soon as I get home, I'll get some. When I worked on the other projects in the past, I'd buy a model, paint, change, and fiddle with it 'til I got what I wanted, then sit it on a shelf in the shop. Made a good incentive to keep going when I would get stumped. Thanks for the offer, Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500.

10-19-2007, 10:53 AM	#20
sick69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: colorado springs colorado Posts: 737	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Best wishes to your family! Frank __________________ 70 chevy lwb c10 454/th400 and a 9" rearend suicide doors, marker light fuel fill, 4" cowl , mini tub

10-19-2007, 11:17 AM	#21
Storm Chaser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Indiana Corn Posts: 449	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab The engine can wait... family illness cannot. Please relay my best wishes and prayers. __________________ 1988 R2500 Crew Cab Immediate plans- get it running! Future plans- Rear disc swap & Hydroboost Dually conversion with shackle flip-n-switch 4x4 conversion with 52" springs Maybe some new body panels Who needs a car when they make crew cab trucks?

10-28-2007, 10:44 PM	#22
cayoterun Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Guymon, Oklahoma Posts: 2,040	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Sitting in Az. Health issues stable, so leaves time to think about project. Good therapy. I'm thinking of using the crewcab frame & running gear, maybe need to shorten it some. Use the 9' flatbed from the yellow truck. Maybe add tool boxes under it. Trying to get a Western hauler look. Do our best not to raise the truck any higher than a typical one ton, even lower it just a tad. I'm not a young as I used to be. Use the '62 gmc front clip and cab. Extend the hood and rear of fenders BACK 24-26" and mount the cab 24-26" back giving room for all the engine to be under the extended hood. That would allow the cab to remain stock, tranny in conventional location and the engine could all be seen with hood up. I'm trying to picture that combo, but seems fairly easy to accomplish. I wish I could get a picture in my mind of what that long low critter would look like. What's the flaws in this line of thinking both mechanically and over-all appearance? When it's finished to be as safe mechanically as the '97. It's easy to see alot of you guys ideas is coming into play here. Thanks, Cayoterun __________________ Cayoterun Okla. Panhandle I think I'll do it myself and pay the extra $500. Last edited by cayoterun; 10-29-2007 at 10:59 AM.

10-31-2007, 01:46 PM	#23
Storm Chaser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Indiana Corn Posts: 449	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab Do you have any dead-on side shot pics of the truck? If so, I can come up with something crude to maybe help visually. It wouldn't be professional- I use MS Paint, and have no idea how to do the things the photoshop wiz's do. It'd be similar to what I've done with my pics in the Truck-Ouside-The-Box thread. __________________ 1988 R2500 Crew Cab Immediate plans- get it running! Future plans- Rear disc swap & Hydroboost Dually conversion with shackle flip-n-switch 4x4 conversion with 52" springs Maybe some new body panels Who needs a car when they make crew cab trucks?

10-31-2007, 07:52 PM	#24
Storm Chaser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Indiana Corn Posts: 449	Re: GMC V-12 powered '91 Chev crewcab I've been wanting to do the same thing for my project, but I can't seem to find any Kodiak/Topkick models. __________________ 1988 R2500 Crew Cab Immediate plans- get it running! Future plans- Rear disc swap & Hydroboost Dually conversion with shackle flip-n-switch 4x4 conversion with 52" springs Maybe some new body panels Who needs a car when they make crew cab trucks?

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