The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1947 - 1959 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board > Projects and Builds

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-06-2010, 09:52 PM   #51
bjcaldwe
Registered User
 
bjcaldwe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 1,169
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

You will get it figured out. Also, the questions you ask, will end up helping others too.
__________________
My AD Truck Build Thread
52 GMC one day laying on the running boards
2004 Chevy Crewcab. 3/5 and notched
bjcaldwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 07:13 PM   #52
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Had the day off today. Got a little bit done. I sprayed rubberized undercoating on the bottom of the cab and on the floor, firewall, and rear of the interior of the cab. All of the tac welds from the seat pan got welded in today. I also finished welding in the lower steering column mount to the toeboard.

[IMG][/IMG]

I cut a piece off of my left over cab corner replacement panel to patch the bottom of the passenger cowl. The curve of the cab corner was almost a perfect fit. I ran out of line of the welder and will have to finish some other time.

[IMG][/IMG]

I also tried to sand and paint the dash flat black like the firewall, must've not paid attention because the dash ended up being glossy black. It looks very cheesey. I'll have to fix that later as well.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2010, 10:13 PM   #53
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

I've been doing little bits and pieces here and there.

I've been taking off the eight different colors of paint on the doors with aircraft paint remover and spraying etching primer. The stuff is potent, but it still takes multiple coats of it to get to bare metal.



I sprayed some flat black on the interior and fitted my seats and steering column. It's all just hand tight, I'm still working on the space. It's a small cab and I'm 6'5" so it'll be a tight fit no matter what.



Just used a U-bolt for the steering column drop.



I came so close to reaching the joint on the original s-10 shaft.

__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 01:48 AM   #54
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

I've gotten some stuff done over the past few weeks. I tried for three days to get the paint off the doors, then I found a guy with a set of '50 doors, primered and ready without the vent windows like I wanted for cheap. I went and picked them up and put the different latches on today.

[IMG][/IMG]

Looking online and in catalogs has me a little confused. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the windows need as far as channels, inner/outer frames, anti-rattle kit?
Who is the best to buy from?
What all weatherstripping do I need?
I'm not sure exactly what all I need to put the windows together. I'll need pretty much everything.

__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 12:53 PM   #55
OrrieG
Registered User
 
OrrieG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho
Posts: 8,800
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

never mind, wrong series truck info
__________________
1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread
1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver)
Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

Last edited by OrrieG; 10-17-2010 at 12:56 PM.
OrrieG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 03:58 PM   #56
52 choptop
Registered User
 
52 choptop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The Valley, CA
Posts: 21
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

It's lookin sweet! You mentioned brakes a couple of posts ago. Are you mounting the master cylinder under the floorboard? Either way, check for flex where the brake pedal goes through the firewall. After mine was done, I had to go back and reinforce the firewall. When I applied the brakes it flexed about 1/2", but it felt like 6"! Great job so far!
52 choptop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 05:01 PM   #57
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 52 choptop View Post
It's lookin sweet! You mentioned brakes a couple of posts ago. Are you mounting the master cylinder under the floorboard? Either way, check for flex where the brake pedal goes through the firewall. After mine was done, I had to go back and reinforce the firewall. When I applied the brakes it flexed about 1/2", but it felt like 6"! Great job so far!
Thanks, I'll be mounting to the firewall, but I'm still not sure about my brake pedal assembly or deleting the ABS. I guess I got caught up doing other stuff. I'll get to it soon enough though. My firewall definitely has some flex, I'll probably have to brace mine as well.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2010, 06:53 PM   #58
BlueJeep
Registered User
 
BlueJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waukee, Iowa
Posts: 1,608
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

If you use the s10 brake pedal assembly you can use the pedal hangar bracket to triangulate the firewall back to the dash. That's what I did with mine and it's solid.
__________________
build threads:

86 Suburban
88 Jeep 6.0 swap
49 Chevy truck
54 Chevy wagon

86 Suburban lowered 4/6
54 Chevy wagon
49 Chevy/s10 mix
88 Jeep Wrangler rockcrawler
BlueJeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2010, 05:42 PM   #59
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueJeep View Post
If you use the s10 brake pedal assembly you can use the pedal hangar bracket to triangulate the firewall back to the dash. That's what I did with mine and it's solid.
Oddly enough I've got your build thread bookmarked specifically for the brake pedal assembly.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2010, 10:19 PM   #60
BlueJeep
Registered User
 
BlueJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waukee, Iowa
Posts: 1,608
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

I can take some more pictures for you in the next couple of days. I have the gauges out to install new ones, and can get a pretty good look at the mount with them out.
__________________
build threads:

86 Suburban
88 Jeep 6.0 swap
49 Chevy truck
54 Chevy wagon

86 Suburban lowered 4/6
54 Chevy wagon
49 Chevy/s10 mix
88 Jeep Wrangler rockcrawler
BlueJeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2010, 10:40 PM   #61
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueJeep View Post
I can take some more pictures for you in the next couple of days. I have the gauges out to install new ones, and can get a pretty good look at the mount with them out.
Please & Thank You.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2010, 11:08 PM   #62
Dieselwrencher
6>8 Plugless........
 
Dieselwrencher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Prairie City, Ia
Posts: 17,140
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Nice progress on the truck!
__________________
Ryan
1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread
1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4
1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed
1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe
1969 Chevy milk truck
1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10
1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project


Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.
Dieselwrencher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2010, 10:44 PM   #63
BlueJeep
Registered User
 
BlueJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waukee, Iowa
Posts: 1,608
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Here's my pictures. First, a reference picture:


Looking inside that hole you can see the black tab that bolts to the dash, that is one of two tabs I made to connect the pedal hangar bracket to the dash. The other one is behind the speedo.


This last one is from the passenger side looking up at the driver's side - side view:


One other thing that helps triangulate everything, is the factory brace for the cowl vent, which attaches just to the right of my new brackets.

This setup works good and has no noticeable flex...and my 49 has the firewall with out any beads rolled in it so it's a flat piece of sheetmetal...ie. no strength coming from there. I've been driving the truck since July, so I know it works!
__________________
build threads:

86 Suburban
88 Jeep 6.0 swap
49 Chevy truck
54 Chevy wagon

86 Suburban lowered 4/6
54 Chevy wagon
49 Chevy/s10 mix
88 Jeep Wrangler rockcrawler
BlueJeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 11:28 AM   #64
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Thanks for the help.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2010, 11:20 PM   #65
Clay54
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: San Angelo, Texas
Posts: 268
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Groyd, what did you do with the old doors. I need a driver side door. Not sure a 51 door will fit my 54 - I'm sure someone will tell us.

Will PM you. Clay
Clay54 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2010, 11:29 PM   #66
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

I've been working like a dog and not a lot to show for it. I spent all day yesterday cutting off the cab mounts and lowering them 2", then replaced the rear end with a '98 blazer 4X4.



I picked up a brake pedal assembly from an '89 S-10 and cut it down to fit under my dash. I still have to get the booster and master cylinder (they came from the blazer) all bolted down. I was just making sure it would fit.



There's not quite enough length on the arm from the booster. I guess I'll just have to lengthen it about 1-2".



I took the bed apart and had it media blasted. There are a ton of dents and dings that I've been trying to Bondo and sand on. I just put it temporarily back together.

__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 08:32 PM   #67
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
Radiator?

Any suggestions for a radiator. . . dimensions, type, prices, etc? I've got a 5.3L and 4L60E.
__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold

Last edited by Groyd; 11-29-2010 at 08:49 PM. Reason: Found Link
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 08:01 PM   #68
BlueJeep
Registered User
 
BlueJeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waukee, Iowa
Posts: 1,608
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Depends on what you have room for. I believe most of us with the s10 frames have either a 19x22 cheepie aluminum one or a stock type one kicked forward at the bottom to clear the steering box.
__________________
build threads:

86 Suburban
88 Jeep 6.0 swap
49 Chevy truck
54 Chevy wagon

86 Suburban lowered 4/6
54 Chevy wagon
49 Chevy/s10 mix
88 Jeep Wrangler rockcrawler
BlueJeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 12:42 AM   #69
Groyd
Registered User
 
Groyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 393
'59 Cadillac Taillights?

I decided to go ahead and make a mess of my rear fenders before I sent them to the body shop. Here is some evidence of my attempt at tunneling in some taillights.

1. I got the bed even and found the center of the tunnels.



2. I tried to follow the advice of a bunch of people online and I watched the episode on "Trucks" where they installed a set of tunneled taillights. I measured about a thousand times and still cut the hole a little to low on the drivers side, I ended up having to fill in a small gap. After about a thousand tac welds I tried to get a bead around the tunnel. I know absolutely nothing about welding so be as critical as you like, it won't make it any prettier.

I literally spend three hours on each one trying to get the tunnel to fit in parallel to the bed side before I welded it in place. I ended up having to shave a significant portion of the side of the tunnel.

3. I ground off the beads and taped it off to copy on the other side.


4. Duplicated it on the other side. Then cleaned it up a little with some filler.


5. I just sat the taillights in the tunnels to see how they looked. I'm going to take the fenders to a body shop this week or next and maybe they can fix some of my screw ups. You can see on the close up shot that I couldn't get my grinder in close enough to get the small ridges out. I needed a more precise tool.

__________________
1951 Chevy 3100/S-10:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=406072
1957 Chevy 3200
1971 2WD Blazer - Sold
Groyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 02:47 AM   #70
bobinbc
Senior Member
 
bobinbc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Vancouver Island, Courtenay B.C. CANADA
Posts: 575
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

That looks really good, you are 95% of the way there. Unless you know a good bodyshop that does custom work for free, I would come back to this later to clean it up yourself. You'll be surprised how much easier the finishing will seem to be after you do a bunch of other bodywork on the truck. I think it looks AWESOME!
2 things to remember: (1) NO car or truck is perfect, nice yes, close yes, but not perfect. Any goood body guy or painter knows this.
(2) You can't see both sides of the truck at the same time, so even if they don't turn out exactly the same it will never be noticed
__________________
1962 Chevy blue SBFS
1957 Chevy yellow SBSS
1956 GMC red SBSS Nov 2017 ToTM

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Cana...geChevyTrucks/
bobinbc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 05:13 AM   #71
Spackle100
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cardiff, CA
Posts: 131
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Looks pretty darn good to me. 3 hours per side sounds about right IMO. But hey, at least you know a thing or two about welding now
Spackle100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 12:57 PM   #72
Kabwe
Certified Car Nut
 
Kabwe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Inglewood, California
Posts: 3,118
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

Man it looks good, good work keep it going.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobinbc View Post
(1) NO car or truck is perfect, nice yes, close yes, but not perfect. Any good body guy or painter knows this.
What I wish someone would have told me this before I started I would have been done by now.
Kabwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 01:58 PM   #73
hotrodrookie
Registered User
 
hotrodrookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 425
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

I’d say the tunneling job looks pretty slick. I agree with Bob, why take them to a body shop after all that work you put into them for a little bondo and sanding. And because you mentioned it about the welding, you’re right about the thousands of tacks but I would try and avoid running any continuous beads on sheet metal. I like to turn the heat up when using the tack method because the initial penetration of the "hot" tack is more than if you were running a bead on the normal setting. I would also suggest picking up a bottle of shielding gas and solid core wire for your mig if you can, makes a world of difference.
hotrodrookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 02:09 PM   #74
Kabwe
Certified Car Nut
 
Kabwe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Inglewood, California
Posts: 3,118
Re: '59 Cadillac Taillights?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Groyd View Post
You can see on the close up shot that I couldn't get my grinder in close enough to get the small ridges out. I needed a more precise tool.
Get one of these to get to those tight spots (I like the cone one but I have all of them you can buy the separately) put it in a angle grinder. Use a sharpy to mark the metal you need to remove, but careful because these things remove metal fast. You can do it man.

Last edited by Kabwe; 12-15-2010 at 06:27 PM.
Kabwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 04:18 PM   #75
hotrodrookie
Registered User
 
hotrodrookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 425
Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.

If the die grinder takes off too much material, a sander like this would probably be more controllable. Sure its harbor freight but for little stuff like this it would be a cheap investment, throw in a 20% off coupon and it's even cheaper.

and dont forget to pick up some flap wheels too...
hotrodrookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com