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HotRod C/10 · 03-23-2012, 12:17 PM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

ls1nova71 · 03-23-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

Here you go!

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Actually it was no tilts until 1970, but anyway, the only way I could MAYBE see a van NSS working in the van location is if the column was shoved all the way toward the dash panel with the shift collar touching the dash rubber seal. If you put the column where it belongs, with the little tab on the brake pedal mount, in the correct slot in the column, the NSS wont fit.

, not the right way to do it as the column's lower shift bell would have to be right up tight against the dash bezel with the lower tube out of its locating tab. Mel

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Originally Posted by DSALRAM

is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere?

Here are a few more labeled side by comparison shots to check out, both of the pictured van tilts have had the N/S-B/U switch moved/modded to the correct truck postion.

72blazr · 03-23-2012, 08:49 PM

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.
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**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 72blazr

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.
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None of these pictures show that, I'll go get ya one. Mel

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 72blazr

Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread.

Here are a couple of pictures showing the intermediate shaft and where it needs to be collapsed 2-3/8" for use w/van tilt. Mel

**lolife99** · 03-23-2012, 09:56 PM

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

Yes you can do that or find an RV tilt which many have the same length steering shaft as a truck..

**Classic Bowties** · 03-23-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft?
Cut and weld?

Although fairly common today with several of the column guys and most if not all of the restored GM "TRUCK TILT" columns listed in the big name parts catalogs, I am not a fan/believer of this cut and re-weld the lower inner shaft method. Dont get me wrong, the one's that are cut, welded and then collared over the joint with each end of the collar welded back to the inner shaft would be plenty strong if done correctly, but most I have seen are just but welded back together w/o a collar or sleeve. I feel if a guy wants the real mccoy "TRUCK TILT" and has paid the money for it, he should get what was paid for and not some cobbled together piece that could put someone's family in harms way if it failed. Mel

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 10:35 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

**lolife99** · 03-23-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyMetalChevy

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

Link doesnt work,...

HeavyMetalChevy · 03-23-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Link doesnt work,...

now it does!!! I must have missed something copying it

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-12-2012, 11:32 PM

ttt

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 12:28 AM

ttt got about 6 of these to do

**southern parts** · 04-26-2012, 10:40 AM

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. Thats how gm did it. Next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. It will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. Thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

precisely!!!!

ls1nova71 · 04-26-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

It's a liability issue. Cutting and re splining takes the risk of bad welds out of the equation. GM spent millions of dollars to make sure they were good welds. It would at least need to be done by a certified welder. Let a weld brake and cause an accident, the lawyers would have a field day.
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**southern parts** · 04-26-2012, 03:05 PM

how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.

Yes... I have done plenty of butt welds in my day. Also worked as a glazier for 10 years. 6 years of that employed at one of the largest glazing companies in the midwest. If anyone is interested in seeing some of my work please feel free to look here http://www.yourascent.com/the-view/p...px?section=All. This building was designed by Daniel Libeskind, a world renowned architect known for his ground breaking asymmetrical buildings which seem to defy gravity. He was also chosen as the lead architect with the design of the monumental new World Trade Center Project. Me and my brother welded frames attached to structural tubed steel for every high end balcony on this condo and hand set every panel all the way up to the 27th floor penthouse.

ls1nova71 · 04-26-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by southern parts

how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.

True, but I've seen some really crappy welds done by people who think they're doing a good job. Add that to the fact that you cannot inspect it because it's inside a column. It's just not really worth the risk for what, a hundred dollars or so?
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HeavyMetalChevy · 04-26-2012, 03:37 PM

I think I got a steering shaft covered.

HeavyMetalChevy · 04-30-2012, 09:59 PM

ttt

IndyRich · 05-01-2012, 04:28 AM

Hey buddy, Just wanted to check in and say hi. I recognized that building you worked on right away.Awesome structure. When I go to Cincy to see Reds games it is next to the Roebling Bridge which was designed by Roebling before he did the Brooklyn bridge.
(I trust my bed supports are still safe. I promise to get over to you on my way to Cincy for a game)

HeavyMetalChevy · 05-01-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyRich

Hey buddy, Just wanted to check in and say hi. I recognized that building you worked on right away.Awesome structure. When I go to Cincy to see Reds games it is next to the Roebling Bridge which was designed by Roebling before he did the Brooklyn bridge.
(I trust my bed supports are still safe. I promise to get over to you on my way to Cincy for a game)

Yeah man! Sweet you know some local Cinci/ Covington history as well. Bed sills are still hanging around. No worries there. I got plenty of room here so def. not in the way.

72Blazing · 05-01-2012, 10:21 PM

Payment sent on Truck Tilt.
Thanks Duane

03-23-2012, 12:17 PM	#1
HotRod C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 3,053	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column is there a side by side comparrison/picture of this somewhere? __________________ SOLD -77 CHEYENNE SWB, LS SWAPPED -1976 SILVERADO YUBA GOLD/NEUTRAL (2-TONE)

03-23-2012, 08:49 PM	#4
72blazr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 120	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Which is the area that has to be "collapsed" ? Thanks for the info. Im loving this thread. Posted via Mobile Device

03-23-2012, 09:56 PM	#7
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,691	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column How is everyone making the van "splined shaft" shorter,... to match the length of the oem truck shaft? Cut and weld? __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

03-23-2012, 10:35 PM	#10
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. A breath of fresh air... Can you smell it??? Hey I appreciate all the tutorials and such they are really informative but this is not a general discussion forum nor thread. Nonetheless can we get back to my thread please? Thanks guys! Here is a link for anyone needing more info here is a throwback link.... which I already posted originally on the first page of this thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=147927 __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog Last edited by HeavyMetalChevy; 03-23-2012 at 11:03 PM.

04-12-2012, 11:32 PM	#13
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column ttt __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

04-26-2012, 12:28 AM	#14
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column ttt got about 6 of these to do __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

04-26-2012, 10:40 AM	#15
southern parts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elberton Ga. Posts: 3,470	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column why not cut, shorten and reweld the shaft up high and not have to respline it. thats how gm did it. next time you have one apart look at the upper end of the shaft. it will have about a 2" area that has been turned and useally blued from heat. thats where the 2 pieces were welded together and then the weld turned down

04-26-2012, 03:05 PM	#18
southern parts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elberton Ga. Posts: 3,470	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column how much pressure is put on the weld as you turn the wheel, even if you dont have power steering. it would have to be a really crappy weld to break under normal use of turning the wheel.

04-26-2012, 03:37 PM	#21
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column I think I got a steering shaft covered. __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

04-30-2012, 09:59 PM	#22
HeavyMetalChevy Just a Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Vevay, IN 47043 remimartin257@aol.com Posts: 4,603	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column ttt __________________ 72 C-10 Cheyenne 350/350 ALL ORIGINAL 81,158 miles (1st) 69 7/8 ton(s & l) 66 327 short block rebuild.325 hp(2nd) 70 C-20 88 350 long block rebuild .040 bore. forged crank GM ZZ4 Hot Cam 1.5 roller rockers.375hp Aluminum TH400(3rd) 71 SWB frame off with 68 body. POSI PayPal: remimartin257@aol.com Business Inquires: 812 801 5111 "Help me, help you" that's my motto Members met... BuildinA68, jessewebb, daddymoo2, 70STOVEBOLT, irishfan77, feller, fine69, chevytruckguy70, jamie72, Nohatch, 2112, drtydog

05-01-2012, 04:28 AM	#23
IndyRich Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 372	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Hey buddy, Just wanted to check in and say hi. I recognized that building you worked on right away.Awesome structure. When I go to Cincy to see Reds games it is next to the Roebling Bridge which was designed by Roebling before he did the Brooklyn bridge. (I trust my bed supports are still safe. I promise to get over to you on my way to Cincy for a game)

05-01-2012, 10:21 PM	#25
72Blazing Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: McAllen, Texas Posts: 397	Re: Restored Auto Tilt Column Payment sent on Truck Tilt. Thanks Duane



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