Plasti Dipped the '67

[JointTech]

assuming $300ish in dip. What does $300-$500 worth of sherman williams auto paint get you? Will it last as long? when does dip start fading or cracking. It looks really cool vs $3000 in PPG paint, but if you are comparing it to cheap paint?? Sherman williams is theonly place around me that sells paint and the quote was for a matte grey in their house brand. not including primer.

I was thinking of priming in normal car paint and then doing the rest of the truck in that plastidip hot pink. my wife would love it. Then in a year I can peel it off and paint it the color I want.

[swamp rat]

So reading above about comparing to paint, i'm not a body man but i envision needing some kind of a paint booth with positive ventilation and exhaust/filter to do a halfway decent paint job, what about Plasti dip? Just spray it outside? have some of you painted lesser expensive paint outdoors too?

[Haggis]

The nicer the setup, the nicer it will turn out. I'm just doing mine outside in my driveway. It dries very quickly, and even being here in the fall underneath trees I haven't had anything stick into it. I just always give it a good wash off before laying another coat if I have to leave it for a few days. I also am focusing on just one panel at a time since I am outside and using spray cans, that way its easier to keep on top of it. Obviously using an indoor area or some kind of makeshift protection would allow you to go at it much quicker. With a spray gun setup and a garage, you could easily have it done in 1-2 days.

[Step'67]

As Haggis said, the nicer your "spray booth" the less contaminants will attach to the paint. You don't need to go crazy, and you can just paint it outdoors, but doing it indoors, hanging some plastic, and removing as much dust as possible goes a long ways. Painting out of a rattle can with this stuff is just like using spray paint, it can be done (Evaded's rides look very good), but usually doesn't look nearly as good (uneven, striping, etc). If you do it "the right way" with actual thinned Dip out of an HVLP gun, one can achieve much better results. You can easily do an entire vehicle in one day, from prep to baking it in the sun using an HVLP gun.

While Haggis said it's cheaper to use the spray cans, that's true if you are taking into account buying the sprayer as well. But for around $25, thinning the Dip yourself, you could have nearly a gallon of sprayable Dip, ready to produce much better results and a much smoother more consistent finish. If you're on a tight budget, or don't want to justify buying the sprayer, that makes sense. But if you can afford the sprayer (or even a cheap Harbor Freight HVLP gun that the Dip community says still works great) I'm more of a fan of, if you're going to do it, do it right.

In regards to the question about covering patina with it. As long as it is well prepped, free of any dirt, debris, paint chips, etc, theoretically it should cover just fine. I used clear Plasti Dip to make my own color, so you could just spray it with the clear Dip without mixing any pigments in it. Or use Plasti Dip gloss, just depends on the look you're going for.

[richards72chevy]

I like it your truck looks good step 67.

[sublime1996525]

I almost bought the pro car kit with the 5 gallons of paint for like $395 yesterday. I'm not sure if there sale goes to Monday or not but might be worth checking out.

[Step'67]

If you do, be sure to post pics once done! They do often have sales on their site so around this time of the year there probably are quite a few, and it appears that one sale does go till Monday. Note: Right now there is a 20% off everything sale going on until Monday (12/2 till Midnight EST) so if anyone is interested, check it out now (Coupon Code: Friday).

Originally Posted by richards72chevy

I like it your truck looks good step 67.

Thanks bud, a work in progress as they always seem to be

[az's1971C10]

Step67,
What color did u use? Is it Gunmetal gray or anthracite ? When u prepped your rig did u sand to metal ? I bought 3 cans yesterday to spray on my tailgate as a test sight. I plan on spraying it today or tomorrow and will post my results. By the way while at Home Depot I ended up talking with a pro paint shop guy who professionally sprayed one of his vehicles and he didn't like how it turned out. He said the texture came out "grainy".

Cheers

[Step'67]

Mine was a custom color. I took standard dip and mixed in Antique Silver Metallic pigment by Jacquard until I liked the color. Sanding to metal is absolutely not necessary. Dip is designed to be sprayed over top of existing paint, sanding to metal probably won't benefit any and kind of defeats the purpose of Dip. My ride was already in primer (I did some body work before shooting), so I wet sanded the entire vehicle to make sure it was nice and smooth, then shot it. As far as the "pro paint shop guy", I'd say he did it wrong. Yes if it was a matte paint, people have to understand that it will have a slight texture to it once dry, that's just the nature of matte Dip. If someone wants a very smooth and shiny finish, use Plasti Dip Glossifier over top. But from your "grainy" description, maybe didn't mix it before shooting, too hot outside, incorrect gun settings, too light of coats, etc. I've come to learn that people who claim themselves to be professionals at Home Depot, some are but most aren't, just my experience. Dip is different than spraying standard paint, so he probably just wasn't familiar with the process. The sample pictures of the speed shapes on Page 1 show properly prepped and sprayed dip of both gloss and matte.

One great resource is DipYourCar's YouTube videos. There are several where they go through the entire process and show the results in the end. To anyone looking to experiment with this stuff, or do an entire ride, I highly recommend at least watching a video or two.

Be sure to post any results, Dip on!

[az's1971C10]

Thanks Step, I should have gone back and looked at your original post because now I remember saying you wet sanded it.

I took his info with a grain of salt. He was at Home Depot buying other stuff for his shop, not paint to paint with. I have a shop that I would trust for real info when it comes time to put a glossy paint job on it.

Thanks again for the info.

cheers

[burnin oil]

I read alot of this thread and one thing came to mind. Why not just paint it. I bought quality paint, sealer, and etch primer for about the same price as you spent on the plasti cote. Mine will last the long haul. If you want to change the color all that is needed is to scuff it, seal it, and shoot a new color. Now it has even more layers of protection from rust. What did I miss on the the benefit of plasti cote?

[Step'67]

I'd say there are many reasons, but the number one, it's different. People aren't saying that spraying Plasti Dip is better than actual automotive paint, but it has its advantages just like anything else. The reason I chose it was simple, it was cheap, easy to apply, didn't leave me with a fear that someone would scratch or key it, and in the event something did go wrong all I had to do was peel it off and my truck was simply back to how I started.

As far as spraying standard paint, then having to re-scuff everything, base, and clear it again for a simple color change, it depends on who you talk to if it is easier or not. Of course mine hasn't been on that long, but I have yet to find someone on the forums who applied Dip properly that is complaining of it fading or what not. I believe its life span is comparable to a mid range paint job.

Consider the fact that someone already has even a cheap HF HVLP gun, and all the throw away items for doing any paint job. All that is left to be purchased is the dip. You can self thin and make 4 gallons of dip for around $150. I would be very impressed if you could find me some actual quality primer, sealer, base, and clear all for less than that amount. In my mind, and from pricing known quality paints, this was the cheaper route.

Back to the real reason I did it, which will vary per person. It wasn't the cost. I saw the product, had a need that it would fill, and wanted to see how well it worked. I was more than willing to put down a few hundred dollars if it meant discovering a great product that fit my needs and I may use down the road. And in fact I have, just finished helping a friend of mine plan out his old Dodge Sweptline pickup that he is doing in KOI Orange (I'll try and get pics at some point).

Every one has their own needs, their own access to materials, and their own depth of pockets. Different products fit different peoples wants and needs, and I believe that Plasti Dip is simply another product that I'm trying to spread info about so that those people may take it into consideration.

Originally Posted by az's1971C10

Thanks Step, I should have gone back and looked at your original post because now I remember saying you wet sanded it.

I took his info with a grain of salt. He was at Home Depot buying other stuff for his shop, not paint to paint with. I have a shop that I would trust for real info when it comes time to put a glossy paint job on it.

Thanks again for the info.

cheers

I'm with you, I would definitely trust an auto paint shop more than a guy from Home Depot

[bpotter05]

Originally Posted by Step'67

just finished helping a friend of mine plan out his old Dodge Sweptline pickup that he is doing in KOI Orange (I'll try and get pics at some point).

You got pics of the KOI orange?, I've only seen it on small cars not an old truck.

[Superdrag67]

Did the top a little while ago in white. Will see how it holds up.

[Step'67]

I hear ya AZ, post some pics when you do get it done if ya can, I'm curious to see how she looks.

Originally Posted by Superdrag67

Did the top a little while ago in white. Will see how it holds up.

Nice truck man, looks good!

[burnin oil]

Thanks step 67. Cost me about double that for single stage paint with primer and sealer for Nasson.

[az's1971C10]

I have rattle canned 2.5 cans on the tail gate so far and it looks better than the paint job i have on it now. The problem I have is some of the paint is chipped to bar metal and other areas I smoothed out by sanding. I was going to finish it tomorrow but I was offered to go to the Forty Niner game, so guess where I'm going.

cheers

[Blitz]

Damn OP, your truck looks extremely nice "Dipped". Yours would be the first classic vehicle I've seen use it and with the flat/satin color craze, I think it will continue to be a big deal. I have PD'd a few things on my modern DD and am I believer. When the time comes I may pick your brain on how you got that exact color and finish. It looks really nice.

For those of you concerned about the "what ifs", at about $4 a can you can experiment with it. Don't like it? Just peel it off with NO worries. I think all the concerns are covered by DYC's "Tube" videos.

[az's1971C10]

Here is how my tailgate turned out. It's much better than what it looked like before.

[az's1971C10]

Step67,
Does your texture look like this or smoother? I assume spraying on with a quality spray gun would make it smoother. This was all done with the rattle cans.

I think I'm going to try the whole truck, I just need to decide if I should purchase the gun through Dip your car or get a mid-level Wagner. Any recommendations are welcome.

[Step'67]

It's hard to tell, what color is that? I can't tell if it is the texture (or camera) making the paint look like many different colors or if it actually is multiple colors. If it is the texture, then yes mine is more smooth. The benefit of the actual HVLP gun is you can lay down nice and even coats, fairly heavy. It seems the heavier you apply each coat without having it run, the more smooth it will be as Dip seems to also reliquify the layer underneath along with the top layer leveling out.

I like that color, and am impressed it came from a rattle can. I can't see any stripes to speak of. Good work man! I would definitely suggest purchasing a gun if you are to do your whole rig. I used the Graco 2900 from Lowe's and am very happy with it. Earlex also makes an identical model for a bit more I believe (both of these are what DYC used to include in their kits and use on their own vehicles). Now there's also DipYourCar's new sprayer they just released available from their website. As for Wagner, read some reviews on Dip's forum if you can. From what I read they seem to not spray as even or consistent as the others I recommended. Any of those would be at the top of my recommendation level as they are in a decent price point and seem to produce great results.

Originally Posted by Blitz

Damn OP, your truck looks extremely nice "Dipped". Yours would be the first classic vehicle I've seen use it and with the flat/satin color craze, I think it will continue to be a big deal. I have PD'd a few things on my modern DD and am I believer. When the time comes I may pick your brain on how you got that exact color and finish. It looks really nice.

For those of you concerned about the "what ifs", at about $4 a can you can experiment with it. Don't like it? Just peel it off with NO worries. I think all the concerns are covered by DYC's "Tube" videos.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. I like the understated look of this matte silver and thought it would go well with the truck. I 100% agree with your thoughts on the "what if" side of things. Watch a video, try it, if you don't like it, peel it off. That's how I started. Pick away, I'll try to be as much help as is useful.

[az's1971C10]

The color is gunmetal grey. The first pic might make it look like two colors one being darker than the other. All it is is the lighting. The second pic is an up close photo so I could show the texture. Both were taken with an Ipad 2. In fact this is the first time I have posted pics because I couldn't figure it out before. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer!!

There are no streaks or zebra stripes. I actually took my time and waited 20 minutes between each coat. I should have warmed the spray cans first though.

Anyway, a co-worker has agreed to let me barrow his gravity paint gun. When I get that I will order the paint. His stepfather is a professional body man / painter and I have been told by several people he is one of the best old school guys in the area. And he and the owner of the shop he works at are super nice guys who have answered many of my questions. I will post my pics when I finally paint the rig. Thanks again for your help 67.


Cheers
Az

[dan468]

is this color possible?

[long'n low]

I bet if you took there black for 2-3 coats then added some glossifier into the black for another 2-3 coats you could get a similar sheen on the black. Another option is to add some pear to the black bit it comes out a bit more grey.

I haven't played much but have been looking at what others have done.

[dan468]

Originally Posted by long'n low

I bet if you took there black for 2-3 coats then added some glossifier into the black for another 2-3 coats you could get a similar sheen on the black. Another option is to add some pear to the black bit it comes out a bit more grey.

I haven't played much but have been looking at what others have done.

That looks like a pretty good plan, at least worth the shot. I emailed them and asked for more pics of the glossifier too. It's for a 64 Lincoln, not the 68 SWB