LS1 swap. What oil pan did you use?

[71Farmtruck]

I have not tried to get a parts direct price from a local dealer, I have experienced from local dealer parts men that they are a bit averse to the online discount dealer parts prices. One parts guy at a Houston dealership went as far as to not give me a part number so I could shop around, he said that he simply would not give it out. That really ticked me off, he acted like a part number was proprietary information or something.

[jkade]

Originally Posted by 71Farmtruck

I have not tried to get a parts direct price from a local dealer, I have experienced from local dealer parts men that they are a bit averse to the online discount dealer parts prices. One parts guy at a Houston dealership went as far as to not give me a part number so I could shop around, he said that he simply would not give it out. That really ticked me off, he acted like a part number was proprietary information or something.

Most of the dealerships around here will match the price as bad as they hate to. I guess all of them are different though.

[71Farmtruck]

Sounds like you had a bad experience to say the least. Sixty five dollars for shipping is a gouge, i would tell them to stick it. I have never bought a bulky item like that from them, but all my experiences with them have been good. I think the last thing I got from them was a window motor for my camaro, which was $100, brand new GM, not that rebuilt crap, and it was half what the local dealer charged, and shipping was $15. It really depends on the item you are buying when it comes to your percentage off list price with parts direct. I do more business with Scoggin Dickey than I do parts direct, sometimes they are cheaper, sometimes not. I will say they are top notch in service though, they truck freighted a LS6 motor to the shop door in two days. Another good thing is to have a good relationship with a salvage yard in your area. I can get just about anything I need from my bone yard, he's got pallets of LS engines and parts, hell, he's got five 67-72 trucks out there as well that arent even well picked.

[shifty]

I buy all of my stuff with gmotors.com, Brasington Cadillac down in Gainesville, FL. Bill and the guys are about 5% more on cart price, but shipping is actually honest - they charge you realistic rates with realistic handling, and combine shipping on orders.

[shifty]

Ceramic coated for $560?!

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by shifty

Ceramic coated for $560?!

I think that is the price after the member discount, but you should probably PM him for verification.

[Hart_Rod]

I got all the parts today and I'm going to do the Camaro pan swap, hopefully this will work...........

[Hart_Rod]

Well I verified that the Camaro oil pan definitely will not work with the ECE mounts. It's about 1/2" to long back to front. I could easily modify the crossmember, but I think the Cadillac CTSV pan will work if my measurements are correct....back to the drawing board....

[68 short step]

can you take pics of what you're talking about....??

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

can you take pics of what you're talking about....??

I'll get some up later this evening.

R

[Hart_Rod]

Here's the pictures. It's very close, but just not quite enough room.

[Hart_Rod]

I think this pan will work. Here's a comparison to the Camaro pan. Any thoughts out there.....??????

[ZZ4Blazer]

Heres some, I think the pics will work even if your not a member.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...f-them-324366/

What bout the H3 pan? How far does the regular truck pan hang down too much?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

Heres some, I think the pics will work even if your not a member.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...f-them-324366/

What bout the H3 pan? How far does the regular truck pan hang down too much?

Truck pan is 8 1/4" deep, H3 Pan is 7 1/2" deep.

[mahanian]

I'm planning on using the Cadillac pan when I do my swap for that very reason. The truck pan hangs too low, IMO. I have an 04 GTO that I'm pulling the LS1 out of, but it's a front sump setup that definitely will not work

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

I'm planning on using the Cadillac pan when I do my swap for that very reason. The truck pan hangs too low, IMO. I have an 04 GTO that I'm pulling the LS1 out of, but it's a front sump setup that definitely will not work

What mounts are you going to use?

R

[68 short step]

thanks rob.....i do beleive the cadi pan will work for ya....also i think if you went with the POL mounts the camaro pan would work too....but again im not 100% positive on that...

[mahanian]

I was planning to use ECE's or S&P's. S&P sells the mounts that move the engine back an extra inch if needed

[mahanian]

Let me know if you find a decent price on the Cadillac parts. I was going to swap a guy my GTO pan for his Cadillac pan, but I think I want to hang on to the GTO pan for the time being. I have a list of part numbers for all the parts (pan, pickup tube, dipstick tube, etc) if you need it

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by 68 short step

thanks rob.....i do beleive the cadi pan will work for ya....also i think if you went with the POL mounts the camaro pan would work too....but again im not 100% positive on that...

I'm in to deep with the ECE stuff to back up now, . Hopefully the Caddy pan will work...........

Originally Posted by mahanian

Let me know if you find a decent price on the Cadillac parts. I was going to swap a guy my GTO pan for his Cadillac pan, but I think I want to hang on to the GTO pan for the time being. I have a list of part numbers for all the parts (pan, pickup tube, dipstick tube, etc) if you need it

I got the numbers off of LS1 tech. I think you can use the truck windage tray. I will have to use the Lokar dipstick with the Doug Thorley headers. I'll let you know.

[Hart_Rod]

OK, we have a winner, . The Cadillac CTSv pan looks like it was made to go with the ECE motor mounts. It sits about 3/4" above the crossmember and has plenty of room in the front for the drag link to clear. All you need is the pan and the oil pickup tube. The windage tray from the truck works. If you got any question let me go. Another cool thing I like about it is the fact that the oil drain plug is in the rear and not on the side. Here's a few pictures.......

[mahanian]

Where did you buy the pan?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Where did you buy the pan?

I got it at the dealership. It's normally around $340, I got it for about 270. If you're not running the ECE mounts, the Fbody pan will work and gives you a little more clearance. If you're interested in the extra Fbody pan, windage tray and oil pick up tube, I'll ship it to you for $260. I've seen used ones on Ebay going for over $200. LMK.

R

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Camar...mZ380045124772

[mahanian]

Thanks, but I'll pass. You are asking $2 less than buying the stuff new from gmpartsdirect.com including shipping

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Thanks, but I'll pass. You are asking $2 less than buying the stuff new from gmpartsdirect.com including shipping

This stuff is new! I bought it Monday. I guess I got taken but, I paid $290 for everything at the dealership and that's with a business discount, (I'll be glad to show you the receipt, ). Oh well, maybe I'll throw it on ebay or make me an offer.