Project Old Blue, 1965 C10, Rebuild Version 2010

[Alan's Classic]

Thanks Karl, for the heads up.

[aggie91]

Well, I found out the rear end I have is NOT out of a Lincoln Versailes. It is out of a Lincoln Mark V. I got the calipers all apart and the pistons are pitted around where the dust boot seal touches them when full retracted. I pulled out the seal kit that I purchased and the dust seal in the kit is MUCH smaller than the one that came off the caliper. SO, I did some more research on the parts, the Versailes rear discs are 10.675" in diameter. The ones I have are 11.5" in diameter. Looking at the specs for the 1977 Mark V, those have the 11.5" brakes with larger calipers.

Rock Auto has the calipers that I need for $93.75 shipped to may door for the pair. I can get O'Reilly to order online for $102.82 total, I am going to see if they will match Rock Auto's price before I do anything...

I will try to get some pics of the calipers and pistons for you guys...I know how we like pictures...

By the way, it has been SNOWING here since about 7:30 this morning. We are to get about 2"-4" by in the morning...

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by aggie91

I will try to get some pics of the calipers and pistons for you guys...I know how we like pictures...

By the way, it has been SNOWING here since about 7:30 this morning. We are to get about 2"-4" by in the morning...

We got 12" of snow in a 24hr period here in DFW which was a record.

[aggie91]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

We got 12" of snow in a 24hr period here in DFW which was a record.

Yea, saw that on the news. We ended up with 7" at my house. This is the first time that the kids had seen that much. They were out of school and we decided to shutdown the plant were I work since we did not have power and most of the schools were out.

The kids had snowball fights and built some snowmen. Our dog just loved being out in it too. My wife tooks some pictures, so I will see if I can get a few up.

[aggie91]

Here are a couple of pictures of the pistons from the rear calipers. The first one is as it came out of the caliper after I wiped off the oil and brake fluid (I used a porta-power to pop them out, compressed air alone would not even budge them). The second one is after polishing it with 1200 grit paper, the black ring is pitted real bad...


I found the calipers on Rock Auto. They had a limited stock of Kelsey-Hayes branded reman calipers for less then $40 each. I think that I got the last one for the right side. The A1 Cardone brand ones where about $43 each on the same site. I got both sides with shipping for about $82.

Here are some pictures from the snow we had Thursday night and Friday:



Here's one with our new puppy, we got her Thanksgiving weekend. She is about 5 months old now. The snow was deep enought that it covered her up to her belly...

[aggie91]

Here is what I got done tonight. The valve covers that I got hit the intake runners. They had some relief for them, but not enough, the runners held them up about 1/8" above the rail of the head.

I marked the area that hit the runners with a blue Sharpie.

I used my offset aviation snips (right cut) to cut up close to the flat where the gasket sits.

Now I have plenty of clearance and did not mess up the chrome plating.


That's all for today. Next on my list is to get the pulleys and water pump and altenator brackets, and fuel pump to finish up the motor. A friend at work is rebuilding my swap meet carb for me now, so when that is done I can do the fuel line from the pump to the carb.

[jgh64pkup]

what intake are you using

[aggie91]

It is a Holley Strip Dominator. The intake runner is about 3/16" (I'm guessing) above the valve cover rail on the head.

Had to work on my DD last night. Had to replace the battery, the cold weather killed it. It was nearly 5 years old, the good thing is that it had a 9 year warranty and that knocked off $32 from the price of the new one.

Once that was fixed I did get the water pump bolted on the engine. And my order from CPP came in and all the parts where there! Thanks Jeff!

[aggie91]

Got a little work done last night. I put the boot on the MC and remounted it to the firewall. I will bench bleed the MC while it is mounted to the firewall. I also got more parts mocked up on the motor for a picture.

Also, I got my rear calipers in from Rock Auto. They are plated with a gold (yellow zinc) color. I hate to paint them, but the fronts are painted black...
Here are the remans from Rock Auto:

Here are my front ones after paint:


My plans for this weekend are up in the air, but I hope to get the truck rolled outside to degrease and wash the frame and underside of the cab. If I can, I am also going to power wash the inside of the cab, mostly the floor and inside the doors. Hope the rain holds off...

My sister had her twin boys this week, so we are headed over to see her and the new boys. There is also a car show this weekend in the same town, might try to squeeze that in too.

[Preacherman5555]

very nice work

[Alan's Classic]

Karl, did you take a pic of the M/C boot that you got from CPP?

[aggie91]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Karl, did you take a pic of the M/C boot that you got from CPP?

NO, I did not even think of it, sorry about that... BUT, it looks just like this one:
http://www.classicparts.com/1947-72-...uctinfo/71-285

[aggie91]

Went to Tyler on Saturday to see my new nephews (twins) and my sister and her husband. I forgot how small new borns are...

Sunday it was supposed to rain but is did not and it was warm, so I rolled the truck outside got some cleaning done yesterday. I used an industrial degreaser and borrowed a neighbor's pressure washer to clean the frame and under the cab. The under cab area was nasty...

The inside of the cab had a funky smell from the critters and nasty carpet that I removed. So, I soaked the floor area with the degreaser and pressure washed it to. It helped knock off some of the loose rust too! I got it rolled back in the garage by the end of the day.

The photo's are after I was done and it had mostly dried out and was getting ready to roll it back inside.

[aggie91]

After I got it back inside, I decided to do a little work on it. I need to remove the old bump stop brackets off of the rear so that I can get a c-notch in there sometime.


I am also, going to remove the rear crossmember and fab up on that mounts a little further back. I want to make a little more room for a gas tank. At some point I am going to change the panhard bar and mounts, so that will mean the orginal mount and crossmemeber are coming out also.


All I got done was the rivets are center punched and started drilling them out. The battery died on my cordless, so I quit for the night.

Tonight, I have to rearrange the garage so that I can get my wife's car in there too. They say it is going to snow again in the next day or so...

[SCOTI]

Paint those calipers black to match the fronts since you did good on them.

ECE has the rear most c.member for a decent price w/the holes already punched. I couldn't find the right sized c-channel @ my local place & ordering from an unknown to save a buck or 2 didn't seem worth when I knew the ECE piece would fit w/o issue. Might be worth looking into.

The Panhard bar c.member should prob be left in place as it braces that area of frame specifically for the Panhard bar. There should be enough room to get a decent size tank back there when you move the rear-most c.member all the way back.

My buddy will prob come out to the shop tomorrow night (if it's not snowing here too) & I'll finally get those dimensions for you.

[aggie91]

Thanks SCOTI.

I will paint them black to match the front. As far as the crossmember for the PHB mount, you are correct. I did not think about the bracing of the frame. I guess it depends on how I do the new mounts as to how much I will have to put back as far as the number of rivets I take out. I will have a crossmember there.

It is suppose to snow today here also. I will be taking a short break on the truck to do a few other things around the house and repair a friends go cart for his kid.

[SCOTI]

Numbers for the truck arm mounts were 39.5" (F) & 41.5" (R). The tape measure was ever so slightly bowed: I measured the rear from the C/L of the brackets across the differential cover; I measured the fronts from the C/L of the brackets under the pinion snout.

If you need more specifics, give me a shout.

[aggie91]

Thanks SCOTI. I will get back on this truck soon I hope.

I did get the rear calipers painted this past Friday. I got a few things that need to be done around the house and my daughter's B-day is the is Saturday and baseball and racing start this week also....

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by aggie91

Well, I found out the rear end I have is NOT out of a Lincoln Versailes. It is out of a Lincoln Mark V.

What length is the Mark V housing (wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface)?

[kizer]

Just finished reading your build. I will say one thing if it was the only complement I was allowed to give you is Holly !#$% those bends are awesome in your brake lines.

I can't wait to see how this turns out. Great job so far.

[aggie91]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

What length is the Mark V housing (wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface)?

SCOTI - it has been so long since I got this rearend (about 11 years) I honestly do not remember what it was. I can tell you that I had it narrowed and it is now 56" wide (surface to surface). I wish I knew what it was...

Originally Posted by kizer

Just finished reading your build. I will say one thing if it was the only complement I was allowed to give you is Holly !#$% those bends are awesome in your brake lines.

I can't wait to see how this turns out. Great job so far.

Thanks kizer...I only showed the "good ones"

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by aggie91

SCOTI - it has been so long since I got this rearend (about 11 years) I honestly do not remember what it was. I can tell you that I had it narrowed and it is now 56" wide (surface to surface). I wish I knew what it was...

I thought it looked pretty short from the pic. Your housing ends are very close to the TA pads, where mine on the 68 housing are 2-3" (squinting eye estimation) farther away.

[aggie91]

Yea, they are close. When I made the pads back then, I had to modify the rear outside corner of the pad to clear the caliper. The pads I made were taller and longer then the ones that I recently purchased from CPP to redo that part.

[aggie91]

No new progress. Been working on other things around the house. I am to a point where I need a few things and money is nearly non-existant for this project. I hope to be back on it in a few weeks....

[william-theglassman]

it was hard on my eyes to see your truck down . good to see you making headway. i am still planning on moving to tyler this summer. so any thing i can help with you got me.