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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
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As I said in my other response…he’s even going to help me dial-in my “off-idle” issues and square things away for me after another 50 miles or so of the ECU’s “self-learning” regiment! I didn’t get a great answer as to why the MAP Sensor failed…but it was an AC/Delco product, which I’m pretty sure is made in China? My replacement is made in the USA by Delphi, who is the OEM parts supplier for GM now…so that could be the answer? Woody |
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Yes…the AC/Delco was pre installed on the throttle body when I received the kit, but I don’t actually know if it would be under warranty? That’s something I’ll look into after the Tech helps me finish with the “Advanced Tuning”…as he’s not the person that would be making that call (but I’ll gather any intel about it along the way!). Nick…Did you ever receive your Pro Flo 4 system, or did you cancel that order? Woody Last edited by Beach-Burban; 11-08-2023 at 08:16 AM. Reason: Added words |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
Great to hear that tech support actually provided support. Fingers crossed on the warranty side.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
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I agree, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to ask. LockDoc
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My restoration build is in the final stages of bodywork, of which I've been posting photos and brief commentary in the build section of this forum. Hopefully the engine and efi installation wil commence in a couple of months. Keep us updated on your progress! Nick |
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Yep…fingers crossed! Woody |
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Looking forward to hearing how your PF4 install goes! Woody |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
Well, I installed the new MAP Sensor and got the proper readings while connected to the digital gauge screen with the engine off. The engine started right up but ran worse than it had prior to my break-down, however, as I had goofed with the distributor during my time sitting at the curb, the first thing I did when I started it was to return the timing to the required 12 degrees BTDC (as Peter from Edelbrock had instructed me to).
As I dialed-in the timing, the engine ran better and better (in the driveway) but when I actually drove it, it went back to stumbling and popping as before…so I drove about 10 miles then called Peter back instead of driving the entire 50 miles. Peter took me into the “Advanced Tuning” section of the app and told me what initial adjustments to make to the basic Fuel Map. He told me to call him back after another 50 miles…and this time I won’t jump the gun! The off-idle response is significantly improved, as is the acceleration aspects up to around 40 mph. I didn’t take it on the freeway yet, so I only put about 10 more miles on it as a new (minor) issue has developed…it stalled several times when coming to a stop, unless I rolled very lightly to the stop. I might need to raise my idle slightly, or the slight build up of pressure in the gas tank is dropping my fuel pressure. I need to rectify the venting anyway, just to be sure that this isn’t a problem…but it’s apparent that the “self-learning” needs to have time to make adjustments as well as some more tweaking with the help of Peter. Woody |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
Sounds like progress to me. As they say "It's the journey, not the destination". Good work and thanks for posting, we're all learning along with you.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
So it’s been awhile since I’ve made any real progress, but I have been working on my rear hatch…and I believe I just opened a can of worms!!!
To recap: Feeling as though I had a rear hatch that was in pretty decent shape, I removed the glass and inspected the lip to evaluate how much work would be required to reassemble it with the clean glass that member BAD1916 donated to me (thanks Bryce!). I dug out all the rubber bits I had collected preparing for this day, then began cleaning up the lip that the rear glass molding fits on to. It was much worse than I had expected, so I switched over to cleaning the hatch area where the weather seal glues to…and to my surprise, I uncovered a 40 year old repair (estimated by statements that the original owner had made back in 2017). Back then, metal work relied upon body filler (lots of body filler!!!) to make everything fit and appear correct…and they must have done a very good job as it wasn’t apparent that a repair had even been made, but the rot was not treated (or removed) and it just grew and grew until the wire wheel quickly exposed how bad it was! I hadn’t yet seen the area where a metal patch was welded in and about a 1/2 inch thickness of body filler was applied over it…but by that time, I had already came to the conclusion that I would be taking the entire hatch down to bare metal! The pictures show it pretty well, but I still have the outside of the hatch to strip…so I might have more surprises in store for myself. Time to find a good metal worker! Woody There is a fair amount of “Swiss Cheese” going on with parts of the rubber molding’s mounting lip…but the worst area is all along the bottom section where it has the previous repair! I think I need a metal fabricator as nobody reproduces anything for our hatches! |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
Here are close-ups of the outside corner area showing the patch and the same corner on the inside showing the molding’s mounting lip.
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It's amazing how rusty some parts are in CA. Maybe it spent some time close to the ocean. Anyway, It will take some time and patience to get that dialed in. It sure would be nice if one of the companies produced a re-pop one.
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
I can't seem to locate it now but there is a member here who has a good write up on replacing rusted metal on the hatch that you may find useful. It was back before the Covid interruption. I'll look and see if I can find it this weekend.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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I live less than a mile from the ocean…and haven’t experienced “salt air” corrosion on our other cars, but our bicycle rims and handlebars sure do rust up quickly, so maybe my living environment has contributed? Re-pop would be a welcomed addition! Thanks for the input. Woody |
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My goal wasn’t to go entirely to bare metal, just enough so someone could see what work would be required to repair it correctly. Now my fear is that I won’t be able to find someone willing to tackle the job? I find myself falling into “project creep”…something I was trying to avoid as I just want to drive and enjoy! Thanks again for your efforts! Woody |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
maybe this is what your looking for? I'm doing the same process and can't stand it! rather find a good used one
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
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Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. ![]() RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban (the WMB),1988 S10 Blazer (the Stink10 II),1969 GTO (the Goat), 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford OHC six 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird (the DBP Bird). 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377 |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
no problem!
ya I flip back and forth to kind of guide me, it's a big help
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
Thank you to Kev2809 and HO455 for the joint effort in finding the thread detailing the hatch repair…although now I’m quite frightened regarding the amount of skilled labor involved! I have no skill in fabrication and must now put out the feelers to find someone that I can trust (and afford???). Thanks again, guys!
Woody PS…and many thanks to KFF 1 for documenting the tedious process he endured so that others could benefit! |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
During the last three months, I have been jumping from one project to another (and then another)…and we all know that isn’t an efficient way to get things done! To sum things up, I’ve made no progress with the EFI system because I shifted into the rear hatch issues. On top of that, my woodworking buddy Bob (who is in the process of “sort of” retiring) finished enough of his contracted work to jump on-board with my “Woody-Style” headliner project. With his tremendous amount of knowledge, we have made a lot of progress (but are still a ways from completion). I am committed to finishing the headliner before switching back to the other issues…except for finding a metal worker for the hatch. I have received a lead in the right direction for that…but a friend has to present it to him at the right time so as to not scare him away! In the meanwhile, please except a few pictures of the “in-progress” woodwork!
Woody Individual panels of American Hickory. A milled cap covers the gap between the panels. Working around the overhead A/C cover has been a challenge! |
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Re: Slow Progress is better than No Progress.
That is going to be awesome! Keep at it!
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