Somewhat useless Truck trivia...

[pryorstemmed]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

I’m a fan! Mine is definitely swapped. Wonder if some browsing thru the spid picture thread might turn up a K with the tool/stowage box on the spid.

I was told they only came on the C series long beds. If someone can confirm they came in the K series with a SPID pic...oh boy. I'd have another unicorn hunt

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by dagnabbitt

Not a stupid idea, but I guess I don't want to look stupid with a stupid answer

But here goes:

Ochre?

YES!

AKA, "Spanish Gold", another useless fact. This thread is worthless

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Come to think of it, I was alerted to something yesterday that's somewhat useless, and it's completely useless too, so bonus....

I learned a heater core takes a gasket where it fits inside the heater box, and what's most useless about it is the gasket sold in at least one kit are completely useless. Probably because nobody cares?, if so useless information to the power of 2.

I didn't know they took a gasket. Since I was there I used 3M strip caulk, which is useful stuff, breaking thread code.

Seems a heater core gasket is somewhat useless, though I suppose some cushion helps.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by pryorstemmed

They were only available on CE/2wd trucks. Not sure why...I'd love if they came in K trucks! Those trucks of yours must have been bed swapped if they were original K-Series.

I'd still like to find something that says they weren't offered. Here is the sales brochure for the pick ups, cab and chassis, and 4-wheel drives. It doesn't say anywhere that the tool box can't be had on the 4x4 area. The tool box is in the available options area before pick up campers.

It says in the description for the VK2, CS-CE10934 for the models. Longhorns are model CE21034 even though they are called out after the model but their model number isn't listed. I almost wonder if this actually means a C10 couldn't get them unless it had power brakes? In much of these books or even sales brochures they hardly mention K trucks on the option stuff.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...Truck_PCK.html

I know it isn't looking very probable for the K trucks. I've even talked to a couple of guys who have been around and building these trucks for 40 years. They both said they have never seen a tool box in a 4x4 but they wouldn't say it wasn't possible. They said they were generally ordered with camper specials to house tie downs for campers etc. They said dang near anything could be optioned on these if a person wanted to pay for it so they weren't saying it wasn't possible.

This worthless thread is kina fun.

[402Bowtie]

Bringing this back ttt

A recent realization I've had:
I thought if you were running a woodgrain tailgate band, that you could use a chevy or gmc tailgate and not know the difference. However, the tailgate band does not fully cover the GMC stamp, particularly the "oval" surround of the gmc letters.

Here's some pics illustrating that.

[jocko]

sorry, that doesn't qualify as useless info, that's actually very helpful info!! I, for one, had no idea this was the case. I had to stare at the pics for a while before I could even see it - but yep, never knew. Now I'll never be able to NOT see it when I see a GMC with a tailgate band...

[57taskforce]

That’s really interesting, I had no idea as well. Thanks for sharing!

[72Cheyenne454]

Originally Posted by 402Bowtie

Bringing this back ttt

A recent realization I've had:
I thought if you were running a woodgrain tailgate band, that you could use a chevy or gmc tailgate and not know the difference. However, the tailgate band does not fully cover the GMC stamp, particularly the "oval" surround of the gmc letters.

Here's some pics illustrating that.

This is interesting. See pic of the gate on my 72 Sierra Grande below. Look at the placement of the band in relation to the recessed area above. My band is mounted lower compared to the other GMC pics posted and the stamped area is covered. I've never noticed any signs of the band being moved/lowered?

Miles

[402Bowtie]

Originally Posted by 72Cheyenne454

This is interesting. See pic of the gate on my 72 Sierra Grande below. Look at the placement of the band in relation to the recessed area above. My band is mounted lower compared to the other GMC pics posted and the stamped area is covered. I've never noticed any signs of the band being moved/lowered?

Miles

Yeah, I had actually noticed that too when looking around the other day, but figured that they were installed/restored without attention to detail. But maybe there was some variation from the various factories, etc.

Here are some more pics... Note: every tailgate band DID come with woodgrain. So there are some unoriginal aspects of some of the trucks shown below.

[402Bowtie]

Originally Posted by jocko

sorry, that doesn't qualify as useless info, that's actually very helpful info!! I, for one, had no idea this was the case. I had to stare at the pics for a while before I could even see it - but yep, never knew. Now I'll never be able to NOT see it when I see a GMC with a tailgate band...

I feel the same way about not seeing it!

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

That’s really interesting, I had no idea as well. Thanks for sharing!

Isn't it? It's cool to keep learning more about these trucks, especially some of the peculiarities.

[Dieselwrencher]

I recently picked up a 72 Sierra Grande and it doesn't have the bottom of the GMC stamping showing either. It is hard to see in the pics.

[402Bowtie]

Another trivia question (that I just learned today):

Which 67-72 model VIN does not start with a "C" nor a "T" nor a "K" ?

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by 402Bowtie

Another trivia question (that I just learned today):

Which 67-72 model VIN does not start with a "C" nor a "T" nor a "K" ?

69 blazer

[402Bowtie]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

69 blazer

Yep!

[pryorstemmed]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

I'd still like to find something that says they weren't offered. Here is the sales brochure for the pick ups, cab and chassis, and 4-wheel drives. It doesn't say anywhere that the tool box can't be had on the 4x4 area. The tool box is in the available options area before pick up campers.

It says in the description for the VK2, CS-CE10934 for the models. Longhorns are model CE21034 even though they are called out after the model but their model number isn't listed. I almost wonder if this actually means a C10 couldn't get them unless it had power brakes? In much of these books or even sales brochures they hardly mention K trucks on the option stuff.

https://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-...Truck_PCK.html

I know it isn't looking very probable for the K trucks. I've even talked to a couple of guys who have been around and building these trucks for 40 years. They both said they have never seen a tool box in a 4x4 but they wouldn't say it wasn't possible. They said they were generally ordered with camper specials to house tie downs for campers etc. They said dang near anything could be optioned on these if a person wanted to pay for it so they weren't saying it wasn't possible.

This worthless thread is kina fun.

Here is a SPID I seen on FB. It has the tool and stowage box and is a K20. Not sure if it is legit or not.

[402Bowtie]

Originally Posted by pryorstemmed

Here is a SPID I seen on FB. It has the tool and stowage box and is a K20. Not sure if it is legit or not.

Wow! Can you post a link? Looks original to me.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by pryorstemmed

Here is a SPID I seen on FB. It has the tool and stowage box and is a K20. Not sure if it is legit or not.

Looks pretty original to me. What group was this? This brings some joy to my unicorn hunt.

[pryorstemmed]

I cannot find that post of FB again. I will keep looking and list it when I find it.

[57taskforce]

Awesome documentation there. Glad to see it really could be done. Makes me wonder why you see so few of them.

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Somewhat useless fact: The stainless hubcaps that look like 71-72 bowties come in at least two different widths, for C10. One is 3" and the other is 3.1". Enough of a visual difference I'm still looking for one 3" cap

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by 57taskforce

Awesome documentation there. Glad to see it really could be done. Makes me wonder why you see so few of them.

Probably because of the way the sales literature shows CE trucks and doesn't mention the KE ones is the only thing I can come up with.

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Somewhat useless fact: The stainless hubcaps that look like 71-72 bowties come in at least two different widths, for C10. One is 3" and the other is 3.1". Enough of a visual difference I'm still looking for one 3" cap

Can you expand on this or show a pic?

[71CHEVYSHORTBED402]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

Can you expand on this or show a pic?

They're packed away, but laid on a table cavity side down, I have three that are 3" "tall" & one that's 3.1". I was alerted to it because the last one I got felt heavier. Here are two 3".

[Orange71shorty]

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

They're packed away, but laid on a table cavity side down, I have three that are 3" "tall" & one that's 3.1". I was alerted to it because the last one I got felt heavier. Here are two 3".

Is that just the difference between the chrome over brass and the stainless?

[Canadian694x4]

Originally Posted by Orange71shorty

Is that just the difference between the chrome over brass and the stainless?

I wondered the same thing...