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02-28-2014, 08:12 PM | #1 |
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Today, I dollied out as many dents as I could get to on the bed floor then flipped it over to begin fixturing the sections. I'd bought a new front panel this past fall and when I pulled it out of the box, it was seriously twisted. So I made a panic trip to Classic Parts and exchanged it for one that was only bowed along the bottom lip. Brian G. is coming over tomorrow to help me use the shrinker to straighten it out. Hate working on brand new parts, but the counterman was real upfront and said it wouldn't be likely to find a perfect one.
The initial fit on the driver side looks pretty good, even without using any butt clamps. Need to trim a little in a few places to get a closer fit, but it should be no problem. You can see the offset between the body lines in the last photo. Not as bad as I'd envisioned, but it will still be an interesting exercise to make it 'flow" seamlessly.
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02-28-2014, 08:23 PM | #2 |
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Looks great so far! That flat bar or angle you've got clamped under the bed rail is a great idea too. The mis-match at the roll is about the same as I had. Anxious to see how you tackle that.
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02-28-2014, 09:21 PM | #3 |
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I'll give it to ya Vic, I couldn't imagine attempting what you're doing, and you make it look like a piece of cake.
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02-28-2014, 11:36 PM | #4 |
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Nice work Vic. Good luck on the bedsides, looks pretty challenging.
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I ran into the same issue ish on the s-box. If you have a smidgen of prior damage/deflection, it will go BUCK CRAZY when you weld/heat anywhere near it. It was a challenge to get it back halfway close! Can't wait for the next installment. Sure enjoy your work.
I'd also say, while we're talking about beds, I don't know where you're at on a tailgate, but get and redo/repair an OEM one. The repro's fit pretty good and look pretty good, but have the consistency and constitution of a beer can. We've dented Yeller's three times since it's been finished. We're looking to replace it long term.
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Speaking of the front panel, Brian G. came over this morning and together we straightened out the bow in the bottom lip and attached it up to the floor. Fits perfectly now. We then mocked up the front section of the bed using the panel and holes in the floor as our guide. It's going to work out great. While he was here, we discussed the problems with the passenger side sheet metal and how it might be better to at least buy repro for that side. I got to thinking I'd already invested $140 in what appeared to be a thin, marginally usable patch panel. For another $335, I could have the whole dang thing and not have to fill the side marker hole and do all the other repairs. Looked at the clock and said, to heck with it ...I'm goin' for it. Made it to Classic with time to spare and exchanged the patch panel and the $$ for a complete bedside. However, the euphoria was short lived. After getting home with it, I bolted on the wheel well and noticed right away that the holes in the bottom ledge of the panel didn't match up to my OEM piece. Went ahead and positioned it on the floor and the depth of the problem was immediately evident. In order for the wheel well to fit, I'll have to do major surgery to relocate the captive nuts where the wheel well attaches. Two steps forward...
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03-01-2014, 06:11 PM | #7 |
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Hrmrmrm... Mine on both sides popped right together with no problems. Both of mine came from Ron Manes in Odessa, Mo. You may wanna give him a call and see which brand you got. I don't have the box, or I'd look for you. Anyway, I think there's 2 or 3 brands, you might give it a check on. Sorry it didn't drop right on for ya.
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03-01-2014, 08:20 PM | #8 |
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lol. thats awesome Vic that'll make the conversion a lot easier.
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03-01-2014, 08:26 PM | #9 |
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That new bedside looks like it has its own set of problems, which is scary because I have two repro bedsides. I wonder if the fitment is just on factory floors.
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Not sure if your version of Porterbuilt suspension will force you to raise the bed floor or not. If not, and you want to compare the fit of your bedside, when the weather clears and you have some free time, haul the right side over here and we'll test fit it. That would tell us both something.
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03-01-2014, 09:52 PM | #11 |
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I will definitely do that Vic. I bought these last year and I think the guy I bought them from had them for several years prior to selling them. Hope these are from the good batch.
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Still a lot of welding and grinding ahead good luck buddy.
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I'm wondering if the issue isn't the bedside but where the floor was cut in both the front and the back, perhaps the preportions are incorrect and it is throwing everything off, for example if it's an inch too long in the front and an inch to short in the back then the wheel wells wouldnt line up, I'm just spitballing here.
The only way you can know for sure is to measure someone elses shortbed or try a known good bedside on your floor. Last edited by Xeen; 03-02-2014 at 02:04 AM. |
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I think I'd return the bedside and consider trying another from a different supplier.
I thought i was the only guy that took 2 steps forward and 4 steps back..... Keep at it!
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Nope, I'm right there with you when it comes to lurching thru a build. As for returning it, that's a crapshoot based on past experience. The dies they use to stamp these parts and the fixtures used to assemble them are, in many cases, slap wore out. If you luck into a part that fits really well, you should count your blessings. It's 3 degrees and snowing outside, the hot water line to one of the sinks in the bathroom is frozen, but the workshop is warm and welcoming so I think I'll just dig in and fix it.
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Ahh, man it's been a long time since I have been on here, and I am never disappointed with your build Vic. The amount of attention to detail in your builds is nothing short of spectacular. From what I can decipher, it looks as though you are going to a fleetside bed on this one? |
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I'm determined to use it as a daily driver and not over restore it like my other truck. My goal is to address the safety and reliability issues as well as the sheetmetal shortcomings. I doubt it will get anything other than a good coat of epoxy primer and I currently have no plans to convert it to discs or 5 lugs. Quote:
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Well, the fix is in (almost). Removed the wheel well attachment area from the old bedside, cleaned it up and traced a cut line on the new bedside. Took a deep breath and sliced that malformed sucker out of the brand new piece. Trimmed the edges and mocked up the patch. Not too shabby. The lip that tacks to the outer wheel opening was a bit out of whack due to the damage to that panel behind the wheel opening. Marked where the formed OEM break was originally located and dollied the lip down. It still needs a little bit more but the line is crisper and it's laying down better.
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These photos don't tell the full story, but the center to center dimensions for the holes are now where they should be. It will really be obvious when I set the panel and wheel well on the floor. I'll do that before any welding to make sure everything lines up correctly. Then it will be time for welding, grinding and hopefully just a tiny bit of filler.
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Going to definitely be one of the nicest trucks on the road. Looking forward to following along a little closer
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Had to spend the night out of town yesterday in order to take my Dad in for cataract surgery this morning. While I was in Sedalia, stopped by best bud Steve Smith's shop and picked up the air/fuel ratio gauge faces he modified for me. I wanted them to match the rest of the gauges from Classic, so he did the artwork, got them printed on vinyl and then transferred the decal to the spare gauge face they ship with the AEM units. When my old school engine finally fires, I'll be rockin' the caveman version of an ECM. Below is before, after and side by side comparison with the tach.
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I'm really enjoying this build: great craftsmanship, great descriptions, and great pictures. Definitely subscribed.
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I'm glad to hear you were able to make a small adjustment and make it work.
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Much better! Nice work!
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You sir are a brave man!~ Its only about $335 that you just cut up. Glad its working for you!
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