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Rokcrln · 12-03-2009, 01:58 AM

Now just bolt the hood on a drive, well almost. With the hood up (helps with 2 guys) I started all the bolts (do not use the SS bolts for this step yet) and once they were snug I adjusted the hood so that the mounting plate for the hood was about 1/4" in front of the plate on the arm. This gave some extra clearance for the cowl on the first shutting but still be careful that the hood does not contact the cowl. I did mine this way and when it was said and done I only had the hood slid out about 1/16" past the plate on the arm.

Now my hood was 1/8" lower than the cowl and needed to come up. I had some spacers that were 1/8" so I loosened one side at a time and slid in the shims and re-tightened the bolts. This put the hood perfectly flush with the cowl and the hood to fender gap was great as well.

I have Talked with Nate and he will be suppling (2) 1/8" and (2) 1/16" shims with the next kits.

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No worries about chipping paint with these hinges, once they are set correctly.

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How is this for a hood opening! I checked on low buck and had an opening of 39" (blue hood) between the hood latch and latch pin and on the Tahoe ( white hood) with Nate's kit I had 46"! A total gain of 7"!

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So now you can be this low, rolling on 30" tires and still take your hood with you all for about 4 hours work.

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Kevin
LFD Inc.

67ChevyRedneck · 12-03-2009, 02:16 AM

Wow, that's really cool Kevin!

Won't the hood to cowl weatherstripping piece bump the front of the cowl up some?

Rokcrln · 12-03-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Wow, that's really cool Kevin!

Won't the hood to cowl weatherstripping piece bump the front of the cowl up some?

Good point it might but I never run that weather stripping on my vehicles. It always seems to screw with the hood fitment more than doing any good. I think I have one here left from LowBuk and if so I will try it and see what happens.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

67ChevyRedneck · 12-03-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rokcrln

Good point it might but I never run that weather stripping on my vehicles. It always seems to screw with the hood fitment more than doing any good. I think I have one here left from LowBuk and if so I will try it and see what happens.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

The reproduction ones I've bought in the past are very stiff and I agree, they do mess with the back of the hood. I did find that GMpartsdirect.com was carrying a "GM replacement" piece and I bought it last year. I think it was only 10 bucks? It's MUCH softer than anything else I've ever bought. I was waiting to install it with my NOS hood hinges.

ChuckDriver · 12-03-2009, 09:52 AM

Is it just the slot in the cowl area that limits the opening of the hood. I could see this leading to some chipped paint and or a bent slot.

Rokcrln · 12-03-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver

Is it just the slot in the cowl area that limits the opening of the hood. I could see this leading to some chipped paint and or a bent slot.

Yes and no. Right now that is the limit but the gas shock kit that Nate is working on will stop the hood about 1" lower than where it stops now. Also if you just go with a simple hood prop rod you just make it a little shorter then it could be. Trust me you really have to open the hood a lot to get to this point but yes it could chip paint if you abuse it. I recently had a customer truck in my shop with cowl mounted hinges and with this one if you opened the hood over half way the rear of the hood would dig into the top of the cowl! If a guy was worried about this happening you could always put some sort of a stop in the hinge box that one arm would contact first.

But good call!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

**wancosc356** · 12-03-2009, 03:45 AM

Subscribed! And awesome write up on the hood hinge install. Looks great.

**kev2809** · 12-03-2009, 08:44 AM

ya I didn't think the explorer ones would work, i just thought it was funny they work the same way. cool write up, those hinges look great

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 12-04-2009, 09:32 AM

try here?

http://porterbuiltstreetrods.com/site/

LOW DOUGH · 12-04-2009, 01:58 PM

Good work Kevin. Your wright up was very good.

mcbassin · 12-04-2009, 03:24 PM

Kevin,
I was looking at the install pics on Nates site. Just wondering if the cab has multiple layers of sheetmetal or do you think a backing plate would help keep metal fatigue from happening where the mount bolts go inside the cab. It might distribute the load? Just a thought. And maybe we won't be opening the hood that often to cause damage. Anyway, he has them for $200 that seems like a steal!
mount bolts here:

Rokcrln · 12-04-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbassin

Kevin,
I was looking at the install pics on Nates site. Just wondering if the cab has multiple layers of sheetmetal or do you think a backing plate would help keep metal fatigue from happening where the mount bolts go inside the cab. It might distribute the load? Just a thought. And maybe we won't be opening the hood that often to cause damage. Anyway, he has them for $200 that seems like a steal!
mount bolts here:

I would not think it would be a problem as the "box" bolts in in two directions and the area that it bolts to has many angles to help spread what minimal force their is.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

mcbassin · 12-05-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rokcrln

I would not think it would be a problem as the "box" bolts in in two directions and the area that it bolts to has many angles to help spread what minimal force their is.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Kevin,
Your right with it mounting to the firewall and through the cab....it shouldn't be a problem unless you have to check your oil every day. Looks like a very sturdy design, props to Porterbuilt.

Angelse68cal · 12-06-2009, 04:16 AM

very nice build as usual...... Would not expect anything less.....

Rokcrln · 12-10-2009, 01:59 AM

Here is the first part of my rear door hinges. I am going with the lift gate but I cut down the barn doors to half doors and I want them to open 180*. The only real 180* hinges that I have found are the super singles and they are fairly bulky for how small and light the doors are. So I am taking 2 sets of 90* hidden hinges and blending them together to get 180's. The body side will be welded in and the door side will have adjustable mounting tabs for in/out up/down and left/right. I may try one out Thursday if I have time.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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Frizzle Fry · 12-10-2009, 02:24 AM

Nice! You'll probably want to at least spring-load the door side in the closed position so that the cab side swings to full open before the door side moves. Mine have a complicated cam-over mutual lock-out set-up so that only one half can move at a time.

Rokcrln · 12-10-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Nice! You'll probably want to at least spring-load the door side in the closed position so that the cab side swings to full open before the door side moves. Mine have a complicated cam-over mutual lock-out set-up so that only one half can move at a time.

Yep I think I will go with a magnetic (earth mags)set up on the door side so it opens the Body side first then with an extra push the door will swing open and not want to spring back. I worked this out last night sleeping soI will try it today. Now I need to work on a small push spring for the Body side so it directs the outer Door hinge to fold first. It should work good but we will see.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

LOW DOUGH · 12-10-2009, 01:39 PM

So, it's going to be kinda like an Astro van

Took me forever to find a pic with the doors open

Critter · 12-10-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LOW DOUGH

So, it's going to be kinda like an Astro van

I believe the Ford Excursions are that way as well...

Rokcrln · 12-10-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Critter

I believe the Ford Excursions are that way as well...

Yes they are but see those ugly Ars hinges! I spent several hours getting rid of the hatch exposed hinges for a hidden style and these are no different. I will not pull the body until all fab design work is worked out and now it almost is!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

VA72C10 · 12-10-2009, 01:46 PM

except open 180

Rokcrln · 12-10-2009, 01:56 PM

Yes but with out visible hinges when the doors are closed!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

MrBeast · 12-10-2009, 03:12 PM

Yeah, the hinges on that excursion look like an afterthought, they are tacky.

pickup67man · 12-10-2009, 05:12 PM

Where did you find those hinges? I have cargo doors and would like to hide those ugly hinges. Don't know if I will go 180* or just 90* but I love them already.

**wancosc356** · 12-10-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pickup67man

Where did you find those hinges? I have cargo doors and would like to hide those ugly hinges. Don't know if I will go 180* or just 90* but I love them already.

I believe they are a LFD, one off, hand made set.

12-03-2009, 01:58 AM	#1
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Now just bolt the hood on a drive, well almost. With the hood up (helps with 2 guys) I started all the bolts (do not use the SS bolts for this step yet) and once they were snug I adjusted the hood so that the mounting plate for the hood was about 1/4" in front of the plate on the arm. This gave some extra clearance for the cowl on the first shutting but still be careful that the hood does not contact the cowl. I did mine this way and when it was said and done I only had the hood slid out about 1/16" past the plate on the arm. Now my hood was 1/8" lower than the cowl and needed to come up. I had some spacers that were 1/8" so I loosened one side at a time and slid in the shims and re-tightened the bolts. This put the hood perfectly flush with the cowl and the hood to fender gap was great as well. I have Talked with Nate and he will be suppling (2) 1/8" and (2) 1/16" shims with the next kits. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] No worries about chipping paint with these hinges, once they are set correctly. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] How is this for a hood opening! I checked on low buck and had an opening of 39" (blue hood) between the hood latch and latch pin and on the Tahoe ( white hood) with Nate's kit I had 46"! A total gain of 7"! [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] So now you can be this low, rolling on 30" tires and still take your hood with you all for about 4 hours work. [IMG][/IMG] Kevin LFD Inc.

12-03-2009, 02:16 AM	#2
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Wow, that's really cool Kevin! Won't the hood to cowl weatherstripping piece bump the front of the cowl up some? __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

12-03-2009, 09:52 AM	#5
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Is it just the slot in the cowl area that limits the opening of the hood. I could see this leading to some chipped paint and or a bent slot. __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

12-03-2009, 03:45 AM	#7
wancosc356 I Like Mine With No Shine! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,705	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Subscribed! And awesome write up on the hood hinge install. Looks great. __________________ Michael 1967 Chevrolet C10 Short Fleet (Literal Ground Up....One Day) 2006 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 4x4 1969 Lincoln Continental Coupe Project FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...ct=4578&cat=17 1981 Honda CM400 C Bobber SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=384152

12-03-2009, 08:44 AM	#8
kev2809 low n' slo Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: rosenberg, texas Posts: 5,143	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build ya I didn't think the explorer ones would work, i just thought it was funny they work the same way. cool write up, those hinges look great __________________ 67 1/2 ton Suburban - Project DRGNWGN. Build thread -_--_--_ _________ _--_-_ -/____\|__\|__\__ ,.,,,.,.,,.,\|_O _______ O_]

12-04-2009, 09:32 AM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,591	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build try here? http://porterbuiltstreetrods.com/site/ __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

12-04-2009, 01:58 PM	#10
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Good work Kevin. Your wright up was very good.

12-04-2009, 03:24 PM	#11
mcbassin Still Learning Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 10,108	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Kevin, I was looking at the install pics on Nates site. Just wondering if the cab has multiple layers of sheetmetal or do you think a backing plate would help keep metal fatigue from happening where the mount bolts go inside the cab. It might distribute the load? Just a thought. And maybe we won't be opening the hood that often to cause damage. Anyway, he has them for $200 that seems like a steal! mount bolts here: __________________ Mike "69 Short Wide" My Project 86 Silverado Landen's Project Instagram: @mcbassin My Website C/10 Club Oklahoma Facebook Group

12-06-2009, 04:16 AM	#14
Angelse68cal Cochino_Racing_909 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California Posts: 280	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build very nice build as usual...... Would not expect anything less.....

12-10-2009, 01:59 AM	#15
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Here is the first part of my rear door hinges. I am going with the lift gate but I cut down the barn doors to half doors and I want them to open 180. The only real 180 hinges that I have found are the super singles and they are fairly bulky for how small and light the doors are. So I am taking 2 sets of 90* hidden hinges and blending them together to get 180's. The body side will be welded in and the door side will have adjustable mounting tabs for in/out up/down and left/right. I may try one out Thursday if I have time. Kevin LFD Inc. Closed [IMG][/IMG] Open 90* [IMG][/IMG] Open 180* [IMG][/IMG]

12-10-2009, 02:24 AM	#16
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Nice! You'll probably want to at least spring-load the door side in the closed position so that the cab side swings to full open before the door side moves. Mine have a complicated cam-over mutual lock-out set-up so that only one half can move at a time.

12-10-2009, 01:39 PM	#18
LOW DOUGH I'M TRUCK CRAZY! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Sachse, TEXAS Posts: 1,737	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build So, it's going to be kinda like an Astro van Took me forever to find a pic with the doors open Last edited by LOW DOUGH; 12-10-2009 at 01:39 PM.

12-10-2009, 01:46 PM	#21
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12-10-2009, 01:56 PM	#22
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Yes but with out visible hinges when the doors are closed! Kevin LFD Inc.

12-10-2009, 03:12 PM	#23
MrBeast high-Tech Red Neck Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Livingston, MT/On my boat WA/BC/AK Posts: 2,294	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Yeah, the hinges on that excursion look like an afterthought, they are tacky. __________________ "He used to be a pretty nice feller, now he's a welder!"



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12-10-2009, 05:12 PM	#24
pickup67man Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 337	Re: LFD's 4dr Tahoe Build Where did you find those hinges? I have cargo doors and would like to hide those ugly hinges. Don't know if I will go 180* or just 90* but I love them already. __________________ Travis 2005 K2500 Duramax (hauls the junk home) 1967 Chev C10 (hauls a$$) 1970 Suburban (Yukon XL 4 door) 1968 GMC 3/4 ton (sheetmetal only, chassis gone) 2005 Malibu (wife's car, still a Chevy) Project Family Hauler New Home for Chevys (Moved in and working)

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