1963 C-10 in NC

[TheBlueBomber]

Indoors is great. Especially if you can fit a Fullsize pickup.

[1963c-10]

Originally Posted by TheBlueBomber

Indoors is great. Especially if you can fit a Fullsize pickup.

You've seen the poles up....fitting 3 full size trucks will not be an issue.

[61K10]

after hr's of cleaning and prep, then paint, that makes it all worth it. looking good!

[1963c-10]

Originally Posted by 61K10

after hr's of cleaning and prep, then paint, that makes it all worth it. looking good!

Thanks....yeah, the results are definitely worth the long hours and time spent prepping and chasing parts.

Picked up new grade 8 bolts today for the reinstall. All the bolts were 7/16" x 1 1/2" coarse (14 bolts total) for the crossmember to frame bolts in case it helps anyone else in the future. My local shop charged me $7 total, money well spent in my opinion.

[61K10]

I go to ACE which is close to me, and grade 8 bolts aren't cheap. but 12mi to town make's it worth it.

[1963c-10]

Originally Posted by 61K10

I go to ACE which is close to me, and grade 8 bolts aren't cheap. but 12mi to town make's it worth it.

I'm lucky there, we have a commercial construction supply place about 2 blocks from my office, so I can swing by anytime at lunch. I've had to special order bolts too and they never charge me extra, but they stock most grade 3-8 bolts, which makes it nice. They don't even look up prices...just look at what I have and give me a price.

The bolts I removed from the crossmember still looked good, but I figure it'll be quite some time if ever that I remove it again, so I figured new bolts was the way to go. I always use either grade 8 or stainless steel depending on the project.

[TJ's Chevy]

Man that looks good! Really inspiring me to do mine!

[1963c-10]

not that bad of a job tj. the hardest part is just making the decision to start doing it. my problem is once im ready to install in the next few weeks, new engine/trans and new front end will go on. so alot of different projects will come to a head at once

[1963c-10]

Get all the little stuff lined up 1st TJ, new bolts, parts, paint, cleaners, tools... etc....the little stuff will nickel and dime you to death and its much easier to do the reinstall with all parts on hand.

Only part I'll have to rent is the ball joint press. I've never dropped the $ for one as its one of those things I use every 10 years and its easier to just get from Advanced Auto on loan. They require a refundable deposit, but no actual cost.

[1963c-10]

Last of the front suspension parts in. Moog Pitman Arm K6086 and Moog Idler Arm K14. Have to mark off the 600 yd range we're installing at Dad's Saturday and rain all day Sunday....maybe next week we'll get some parts installed.

[Sharps40]

Hardest part of pressin in the new ball joints is gettin em lined up dead straight. Moog lower ball joints have a long taper to help but still hard to get dead straight. The less expensive/off shore lower balljoints have about 0 lead in taper and are a bear to get straight started, do it wrong and they will actually gouge the lip inside the lower control arm then stick crooked part way in.....

Recommend using a hand wrench and socket to turn the shaft on the press....air wrench can get ya in trouble quick if it ain't all lined up straight and true.

Start em crooked and you have two issues, can't seat it and if you try too hard, it stretches out the hole and you wind up with a loose balljoint that has to be welded in place. In any event, I recommend tack welds on the bottom ball joint unless its a spanky new lower control arm yer pressin the joint into.

[1963c-10]

Ok, thanks Rich. We'll the A-Arms are new to me, but obviously 50+ years old....guess that doesn't count. HAHA. Will watch install for proper alignment and fit. Keep you posted with pics. The crossmember from ol John Lee cleaned up pretty good huh?

[Sharps40]

Looks dayum fine. Make sure you measure and critically compare the DS upper control arm bracket to the PS and to your unstruck spare vehicles.

The DS of Ol John Lee was the hit that caved in and cracked the DS frame. Any doubts, cut the rivets and swap out your upper bracket from the DS side for one of the unstruck DS brackets off one of the spare vehicles.

[1963c-10]

I've checked and double checked everything and it all looks to be ok. I can't find any issues. Both uppers and lower arms move freely. All bolts came out good, none bent, even the ones that are welded to the crossmember (upper 2 bolts on the sides that hold the upper cross shafts) backed out just fine. Can't find any bends, buckles or cracks. I think its good to go. Seems to just have been the frame issues. But I have two other crossmembers (both 63) should I run into any issues.

[Sharps40]

I think yer gonna be fine....weakest part of the front end is the frame. Had the frame been boxed or crossbraced I spect there would be more damage to attached components.

[1963c-10]

We'll know more when we get to install, but I don't see any issues. Won't be long and I'll have that old big block stuffed down on top of it. Can't wait!!!!! Been a few years in the making.

And thanks for having drilled out the upper ball joints...glad I didn't have to mess with those rivots. And looks like the lower control arms were converted to the larger u-bolts.

[TJ's Chevy]

Once the bigblock is installed you'll be smoking mustangs!

[Sharps40]

Yep yer welcome. When I did that suspension on Ol John Lee, I did it up good....everythin new and heavy duty spanky new ubolts and then Wammo El Blammo Del Smasho Con Crunch-O only 6 weeks later!

[TheBlueBomber]

Originally Posted by Sharps40

Yep yer welcome. When I did that suspension on Ol John Lee, I did it up good....everythin new and heavy duty spanky new ubolts and then Wammo El Blammo Del Smasho Con Crunch-O only 6 weeks later!

Horrible...

[1963c-10]

Hahahaha....thanks guys. This forum is always good for an early Monday morning laugh. I did get the upper a-arms prep and paint done this weekend. Also got the brand new spring stripped and will get them painted up sometime this week. Been nothing but rain since Saturday night and the temp dropped back into the 40-50's. It's suppose to pick up this weekend some, so more paint then.

All parts ready for front end reinstall....just waiting on the new Moog idler & pitman arm to arrive and it'll finally be install time. Engine and trans will be very close behind.

[TheBlueBomber]

I would have had my whole front end painted if it was nice out... now its just a waiting game.

[1963c-10]

Originally Posted by TheBlueBomber

I would have had my whole front end painted if it was nice out... now its just a waiting game.

I'm in the same boat Austin.....of coarse we are only an hour apart!!

And let me tell you.....removing paint from coil springs had to have been the worst project ever. What a pain in the rear. Springs look great, but the manufacturer did the worse job ever on the paint. It just flaked off in sheets. What paint did adhere must have been held on with elephants snot. Couple of coats of paint stripper even had a tough time with it. Got 90% of paint removed and put a good heavy coat of oven cleaner on overnight. I'll check their status tonight when home. Thinking I'll paint them the same color as the engine.

[1963c-10]

Addendum to front crossmember bolts....the 4 nylon insert nuts that hold the upper cross shafts are 1/2" x 20 fine thread. I checked all the local big stores out this weekend while out on errands....no luck. Did get them at Hurst Annaho @ $.50 each. Everything else was 7/16 coarse 1 1/2" length (14 total....10 w/nuts).

Don't know if it'll help anyone else in the future, but figured it wouldn't hurt to list.

[1963c-10]

Buddy who lives in Enid OK turned me onto this sale....worth checking out. Closed in the 50's....one day only auction on June 7th
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...ed-to-auction/

Link with a list of whats being sold: http://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/a...5&allimages=NO
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[markeb01]

Sure would be fun/interesting just to walk through the place. Thanks for sharing the info.