most original 60-66 truck in existence?

[The Rocknrod]

Originally Posted by EdWeeds

I am new to this forum as I just purchased a "bone stock" 66 C10 SWB Step side. Somewhat rare MT 327. Seller/dealer said that a restoration was done in 2019, which appears to have been primarily cosmetic, repainting the frame and body (in original color) etc. Not sure where the fender badges are, maybe aftermarket replacement fenders. Original wiring has given me fits chasing down shorts and bad grounds. Other than a complete tune up and running some dedicated grounds I am probably going to leave it as is. Maybe power steering as tight turns are an effort.

Hey that's a clean truck right there. And welcome to the forum.

[cwcarpenter98]

Originally Posted by EdWeeds

I am new to this forum as I just purchased a "bone stock" 66 C10 SWB Step side. Somewhat rare MT 327. Seller/dealer said that a restoration was done in 2019, which appears to have been primarily cosmetic, repainting the frame and body (in original color) etc. Not sure where the fender badges are, maybe aftermarket replacement fenders. Original wiring has given me fits chasing down shorts and bad grounds. Other than a complete tune up and running some dedicated grounds I am probably going to leave it as is. Maybe power steering as tight turns are an effort.

That's a nice truck you got. Welcome!
Looks like either the fenders were replaced so the correct holes weren't there for the badges or the previous owner decided to close up the holes and leave the badges off. You can purchase an original set or aftermarket reproductions of the fender badges, add 4 holes, and you'll have the correct badges back on in a jiffy.

[EdWeeds]

Could not find any body work on the inside of the fenders, so probably aftermarket. I have ordered the emblems from CJ Pony Parts. Thanks

[60-66]

Originally Posted by oem4me

Looks like it's worthy of a closer inspection. Suspiciously clean wheels and other concerns, like remnants of green paint on bedwood, when claimed "has had no paintwork".

Just got off the phone with the owner of this 1963 GMC. Lots of history and an interesting story. Owner put this in his garage and locked it up , like he mentioned , but the guy painted his house the same color as the truck !

Yes current owner put the chrome mirror on ,he has the original . He powder coated the rims and new radial tires. Other than that the truck is original paint. Bed wood , as near as we can figure the original owner brush painted the green paint on the wood , possibly sprayed ? Hard to tell. But the bolts all around the perimeter are still plated like they should be on a Pontiac Michigan built GMC.

Current owner in California also lives in Wisconsin in the summers and is only 45 minutes from me .

VIN TAG is spot welded , he double checked that for me .

[yote1234]

60-66... i thank you for your reply! i learn a lot from you and this site, you are a warehouse of information and again i thank you sir.

[60-66]

Hopefully these pictures post, he just sent them

[sscooter]

Here's a pic of my '66. Original paint (what's left of it) Texas farm truck.

Minus the lowering springs and steelies, it's pretty much as it left the factory. 230, column shift truck. Runs like a sewing machine, but smokes like a 2 stroke (valve seals? rings?)

It's probably getting a heart transplant this year....

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by 60-66

Hopefully these pictures post, he just sent them

Thanks 60-66 for posting those "true barn find" photos. Reminds me of your red '66 GMC when you first got it. Owner took a few liberties to spruce it up, but, IMO, looks better with black wall tires and painted mirrors.

[60-66]

Originally Posted by yote1234

60-66... i thank you for your reply! i learn a lot from you and this site, you are a warehouse of information and again i thank you sir.

Um , gosh , um .... I dont know what to say . . Thank you very much for the kind words .

Originally Posted by factorystock

Thanks 60-66 for posting those "true barn find" photos. Reminds me of your red '66 GMC when you first got it. Owner took a few liberties to spruce it up, but, IMO, looks better with black wall tires and painted mirrors.

100% agree on the whitewalls , I think if I ever found that perfect 1960-1962 Custom , I know I could never put the wide whites on one . That and trim rings on the wheels do absolutely nothing for me .

On another note , owner of this 63 sent a close up of the VIN last night, 100% the way it left the factory with the spot welds .

[60-66]

Originally Posted by yote1234

60-66... i thank you for your reply! i learn a lot from you and this site, you are a warehouse of information and again i thank you sir.

Um , gosh , um .... I dont know what to say . . Thank you very much for the kind words .

Originally Posted by factorystock

Thanks 60-66 for posting those "true barn find" photos. Reminds me of your red '66 GMC when you first got it. Owner took a few liberties to spruce it up, but, IMO, looks better with black wall tires and painted mirrors.

100% agree on the whitewalls , I think if I ever found that perfect 1960-1962 Custom , I know I could never put the wide whites on one . That and trim rings on the wheels do absolutely nothing for me . The chrome mirror and arm just cheapens the entire look .

On another note , owner of this 63 sent a close up of the VIN last night, 100% the way it left the factory with the spot welds .

[sodly]

Originally Posted by factorystock

Thanks for posting Sodly, excellent addition to this thread.

It got me fired up! Right in your back yard there, Bruce! Wonder if he'll get anywhere near his asking price. Pretty crazy.

[factorystock]

I hope they took their time cleaning and polishing, would hate to see unecessary burn marks from a buffer. There is no better original paint reviver than you Sodly!

[sodly]

Originally Posted by factorystock

I hope they took their time cleaning and polishing, would hate to see unecessary burn marks from a buffer. There is no better original paint reviver than you Sodly!

Ha ha! Yes, lot of elbow grease! Guess that's why I have such enormous elbows, lol.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by 60-66

That paint in the bed Pontiac didn't paint the wood body color.

Question about the ivory white paint process on outside of bed. Did GMC take a completely white bed panel and repaint the bottom section body color or was the body panel all one color and white was added to the top? Or in other words, is the top section 100% white and the bottom section 100% body color?

[60-66]

Originally Posted by factorystock

Question about the ivory white paint process on outside of bed. Did GMC take a completely white bed panel and repaint the bottom section body color or was the body panel all one color and white was added to the top? Or in other words, is the top section 100% white and the bottom section 100% body color?

From what I can tell by looking at faded trucks and some my own , the top section of white on the bed was painted first . Not the entire panel . Then was masked and painted main color. Chevy cab two tones were done the same way. It wasnt the entire cab , just enough below the line to get the job done.

[60-66]

Originally Posted by sodly

It got me fired up! Right in your back yard there, Bruce! Wonder if he'll get anywhere near his asking price. Pretty crazy.

well it made it to 20 K ish , but in talking to the owner , hes looking for 39K or close . I doubt he will talk to me again though as I offered 25K after the auction and it seemed , well , Ill just say he wasn't happy

[sscooter]

Originally Posted by factorystock

Question about the ivory white paint process on outside of bed. Did GMC take a completely white bed panel and repaint the bottom section body color or was the body panel all one color and white was added to the top? Or in other words, is the top section 100% white and the bottom section 100% body color?

This should help to answer the above question.

This is my old (original paint) '65 GMC. Now belongs to a good friend.

If you look at how thin the green paint is on the bedside, you can see that it is definitely painted white beneath.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by sscooter

If you look at how thin the green paint is on the bedside, you can see that it is definitely painted white beneath.

Thanks for posting photos sscooter, that's what I was thinking. Tu tones were pretty common on Custom's, so they probably had a lot of exterior bed panels already painted white and ready to go whenever a tu tone truck needed it.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by 60-66

I offered 25K after the auction and it seemed , well , Ill just say he wasn't happy

IMO, 25K would be right in the ball park and playing it safe. I put the original '63 cost ( approx $2600? ) into the CPI and it came out around 24K. If it was loaded with the options your red '66 has, 30K+.

[60-66]

Heres another Barn find GMC . This showed up on Facebook a year or so ago. I was in contact with the New owner but lost track of the conversation and do not have interior pictures . 9199 original miles . Stripe was added , Canadian built GMC . New owner kept talking about painting this and that to make it look new again , I did my best to try and get him to leave it alone , but ?

[60-66]

After a wash

[60-66]

Thats all I have on it

[oem4me]

Originally Posted by factorystock

IMO, 25K would be right in the ball park and playing it safe. I put the original '63 cost ( approx $2600? ) into the CPI and it came out around 24K. If it was loaded with the options your red '66 has, 30K+.

I'll politely disagree. The 63 money may equal 24K today with inflation, but one cant just go pick up a brand new 1963 truck from their local dealer anymore. All orig, low mile survivors are increasingly rare these days. Calculating the value of rarity isn't so simple.
For instance, if you were to plug in the original cost of a pack of baseball cards from back in the day, inflation would show a value of just a few dollars in todays money. Tell that to those that are currently paying millions for a single rare card, gum not included. Lol!

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by oem4me

I'll politely disagree. The 63 money may equal 24K today with inflation, but one cant just go pick up a brand new 1963 truck from their local dealer anymore. All orig, low mile survivors are increasingly rare these days. Calculating the value of rarity isn't so simple.
For instance, if you were to plug in the original cost of a pack of baseball cards from back in the day, inflation would show a value of just a few dollars in todays money. Tell that to those that are currently paying millions for a single rare card, gum not included. Lol!

Your right oem4me, the CPI is about price of a generic gallon of milk or a generic hammer. A piece of Americana that is rare and desirable is a whole different ballgame. I'm old school, don't like paying collector car prices, still thinking it's used vehicle in outstanding condition price.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by 60-66

Heres another Barn find GMC .

Wow, thanks for posting another incredible find, 60-66. I agree, leave it alone, or try to figure out how to remove white stripe without damaging paint underneath. Canadian GMC's were basically Chevy's, even the engine is painted Chevy Blue instead of GMC red. Rims are painted black like Chevys also, but prefer the white painted rims found on American GMC's. A Canadian ad from '66. Red truck is a '64 or '65? ASFIK, almost impossible to detect a base model '64 GMC from a base model '65 GMC.