Tricked-out Chevy six cylinder engines

[Texas1963]

Here's my 230 before pic's. Gonna order the Offy 2X1 Intake and another Carb today. I'm going to look into getting a stock exhaust manifold and having another flange welded on to run dual pipes. If not that route then I'll get the shorties from Cliffords. Right now I'm running 2" straight out to the bumper and it sounds awesome with a fishtail tip from a Harley I had hanging in the shop. I'm looking at scoring a 292 and going all out with it like I've seen here. Lot's of good info and expertise here as well. Thanks in advance as well for any tips or pointers.

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by Texas1963

Here's my 230 before pic's. Gonna order the Offy 2X1 Intake and another Carb today. I'm going to look into getting a stock exhaust manifold and having another flange welded on to run dual pipes. If not that route then I'll get the shorties from Cliffords. Right now I'm running 2" straight out to the bumper and it sounds awesome with a fishtail tip from a Harley I had hanging in the shop. I'm looking at scoring a 292 and going all out with it like I've seen here. Lot's of good info and expertise here as well. Thanks in advance as well for any tips or pointers.

Awesome that your joining the 6 banger brother hood. lol That 230 can be made into a nice machine with some effort. But the 292's are not hard to find. My 292 will be making around 310 hp and 330 torque at least and it was just a "mild" street build. Still room for turbo to. You don't have to spend and break the bank at clifford. Tom Langdon from Langdon's Stovebolt has non-tube headers for a much more affordable price and just as good as clifford's.

[Texas1963]

Thanks TJ. And yes it is a toss up between the Cast ones and the Tubes from Cliffords. Also, my 230 runs so damn good I don't want to have my truck down for a long period. TJ, when I come across a 292 what parts(mounts,brackets ect) should I make sure I have so the 292 can just be swapped out. I was reading a new thread about 292 mounts and it got me thinking, is going from a 230 to a 292 a pain or just plug and play? Thanks, and your motor looks awesome.

[66Submarine]

Originally Posted by Texas1963

Thanks TJ. And yes it is a toss up between the Cast ones and the Tubes from Cliffords. Also, my 230 runs so damn good I don't want to have my truck down for a long period. TJ, when I come across a 292 what parts(mounts,brackets ect) should I make sure I have so the 292 can just be swapped out. I was reading a new thread about 292 mounts and it got me thinking, is going from a 230 to a 292 a pain or just plug and play? Thanks, and your motor looks awesome.

You need a right hand side perch from another 63-66 truck with a 292 and apparently either the right hand block mount with OE spacers from a 292 or another left side mount from a 230/250 with some homemade spacers (I think--I still need to check and make sure). AFAIK the block mounts are the same from 63-72.

Hope this helps!

[66Submarine]

Originally Posted by 66Submarine

You need a right hand side perch from another 63-66 truck with a 292 and apparently either the right hand block mount with OE spacers from a 292 or another left side mount from a 230/250 with some homemade spacers (I think--I still need to check and make sure). AFAIK the block mounts are the same from 63-72.

Hope this helps!

It also seems like a 67-72 292 perch (and 230/250, FWIW) may be the same as a 63-66, but I don't know.

[66Submarine]

Originally Posted by Texas1963

Thanks TJ. And yes it is a toss up between the Cast ones and the Tubes from Cliffords. Also, my 230 runs so damn good I don't want to have my truck down for a long period. TJ, when I come across a 292 what parts(mounts,brackets ect) should I make sure I have so the 292 can just be swapped out. I was reading a new thread about 292 mounts and it got me thinking, is going from a 230 to a 292 a pain or just plug and play? Thanks, and your motor looks awesome.

I also forgot to mention that some 292's have 1/2" flywheel bolts instead of 7/16".

[Texas1963]

Thanks for the info 66submarine.

[rudyyloverboiii]

Anyone use steel braided hose for a fuel pump for their 292?

[Twisted6]

I have used it on my 250. And still do for that matter. I have it from my fuel block to my carbs.

[rudyyloverboiii]

Originally Posted by Twisted6

I have used it on my 250. And still do for that matter. I have it from my fuel block to my carbs.

3/8 line? I have a single barrel Rochester carb n I would like to do the same but not order the wrong size hose

[aerotruk63]

Originally Posted by Texas1963

Here's my 230 before pic's. Gonna order the Offy 2X1 Intake and another Carb today. I'm going to look into getting a stock exhaust manifold and having another flange welded on to run dual pipes. If not that route then I'll get the shorties from Cliffords. Right now I'm running 2" straight out to the bumper and it sounds awesome with a fishtail tip from a Harley I had hanging in the shop. I'm looking at scoring a 292 and going all out with it like I've seen here. Lot's of good info and expertise here as well. Thanks in advance as well for any tips or pointers.

That Vacuum Manifold off the intake manifold is rare.

[TJ's Chevy]

Haven't yet but Will be on my new engine. lol

['68OrangeSunshine]

Originally Posted by 66Submarine

I also forgot to mention that some 292's have 1/2" flywheel bolts instead of 7/16".

Correct. According to Leo Santucci's book, 1966 was the last year for the 7/16'' flywheel/crank bolts on 292s, after that it was 1/2''.

[TJ's Chevy]

Here's a Mean 250 in a chevelle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXeBTr8e1mA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmx6zjqH61g

[oldusafmsgt]

This ones sitting in a 61 C20, 38000 miles when I got it. Dressed it up a bit.

[oldusafmsgt]

Just started on this one, 60 C10 short Fleetside

[TJ's Chevy]

Likin those 6 bangers!

[Husein-p]

Originally Posted by hotrod66

Just got these cast iron headers today ,any one ells running them ?Attachment 1414138

hi

can i buy this cast iron headers from where ? which sites ?

['68OrangeSunshine]

Originally Posted by Husein-p

hi

can i buy this cast iron headers from where ? which sites ?

You can get the cast iron headers -- styled like Fentons, but made for the later L6s [230, 250, 292] from Tom langdon at www.stoveboltengineco.com

[Husein-p]

Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine

You can get the cast iron headers -- styled like Fentons, but made for the later L6s [230, 250, 292] from Tom langdon at www.stoveboltengineco.com

much thanks
is stove bolt better or this :
http://www.shop.cliffordperformance....rs-52-0011.htm

[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by Husein-p

much thanks
is stove bolt better or this :
http://www.shop.cliffordperformance....rs-52-0011.htm

The clifford headers Look better imop, but Tom's will Last alot longer. So all in all Langdon's will be the better of the two. Clifford's headers are made of a thicker gauge metal than most headers though.

[paintman]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

The clifford headers Look better imop, but Tom's will Last alot longer. So all in all Langdon's will be the better of the two. Clifford's headers are made of a thicker gauge metal than most headers though.

I tend to like mine the best.......................LOL
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[TJ's Chevy]

Originally Posted by paintman

I tend to like mine the best.......................LOL
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Good ole hooker headers! lol

[Husein-p]

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy

Good ole hooker headers! lol

in ur opinion l6-250 engine with 4bbl holley carb + Headers + Lumping port How much horsepower can deliver ?
with standard cam shaft ....

['68OrangeSunshine]

Originally Posted by Husein-p

much thanks
is stove bolt better or this :
http://www.shop.cliffordperformance....rs-52-0011.htm

I've never used Langdon's headers. I talked to Tom in 2002 when I was building up my current 292. He sent me some longer pushrods, my build needed when the Chevy dealer didn't stock them. Long time GM design engineer -- he was part of the team that developed the 230/250/292 series.
So he knows a lot and deals fairly.
That being said: I have had a pair of Clifford Research headers on my truck since 1978. They were on the last 292 for the better part of 250,000 miles [guessing 232,000] before I rebuilt another 292. At the rebuild, I had the old headers hot tanked, and bead-blasted. Then I painted them with VHT hi-temp Gray spray paint. They went on the ''new'' engine in 2005.
I did have the manifold flanges resurfaced in the mid '80s at the same time a crushed down tube [#5 IIRC] from offroad rock damage was repaired. The welder cut out the crushed section and welded fresh pipe over the hole. The mating manifold flange was re-made in 3/8" steel.
I live in the desert, in Tucson, so nothing much rusts badly.