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Greg, I found the following picture that kinda shows what's going on:
http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Die...ts013.jpg.html It's a 72, but the basic idea is the same. Sort of an over-center design. It may be that those springs on your z-bar effectively serve the same purpose.
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[quote=greg64;7059038]Greg, I found the following picture that kinda shows what's going on:
http://s181.photobucket.com/user/Die...ts013.jpg.html It's a 72, but the basic idea is the same. Sort of an over-center design. thank you so much Quote:
... and I don't mean to be a Drama Queen, but I just like doing things right and in order to put this linkage together properly I would like to know what I am missing and where it goes, capish? |
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Warning this spring is one very strong spring they are a real pain to deal with. Hook the top first then use a brake tool to "stretch" it over the pedal pin. It's a bit easier if you have the pedal on the floor.
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Might could this be it? Found it in the bed of the truck when I bought it, thought to my self what's this garage spring doing here, and tossed it in the spare truck parts bin, LOL
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yup that looks like it. the coil part is about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches in diameter heavy gauge wire almost 1/4 inch in diameter. That is a common failure too
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Hey, Gregski:
I found these in my PDF illustrated parts book, clipped the pages out and uploaded them to my site for you. Download them so I don't need to leave them on my site forever. I can also look up part numbers for specific parts if you need it. Sometimes the best way to find a part is just google the GM part number. http://users.rcn.com/weyand/smalls/7...utchPedals.pdf http://users.rcn.com/weyand/smalls/73-78Clutch.pdf You might also want to purchase the CDs of the parts books. I copied the CDs to my machine, and can scroll the whole book. http://horn-relay.dvautoparts.com/di...s-s-tiixsn8agk
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You guys never give up. Good job...discussion, ideas, shared e-documents and scavenger search for old parts as well as assembly of new parts. Oh and all that with miles between us all.
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Painted Brake Pedal
you guys didn't think I was just eatin' and sleepin' the last few days did you?
here is the brake pedal, original, wire brushed, acid dipped, and finally painted |
02-21-2015, 09:49 PM | #11 |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Painted Clutch Pedal
a better man would have separated these two pieces, taken the clutch pedal completely apart, but hey "IT'S A TRUCK!!!"
first pic - original custom Rust Patina second pic - after using a 4" angle grinder with a wire brush third pic - brushed on some Phosphoric acid to get into nooks and cranies fourth pic - not drying paint inside the house on our beautiful hardwood floor, honey |
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with all the pedals and linkage bits drying it was time to move on to the transmission
first we used the "skateboard" as my daughter calls it to relocate it to the triage facility |
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I sure am learning a lot here today.!
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took off the rubber padded bracket that holds the transmission to the cross member, in order to clean both pieces more better
making a mental note that it goes back on there a certain way, seems like it sits closer to the passenger side as it is a bit off center by design |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Muncie Transmission
as I was knee deep in operation code name "SM465" I recalled that when I drained the juice out of this iron mellon and shoved my finger in the drain hole I felt some shrapnal
that's it I thought, to take this beast out and not take a peak inside that would be criminal so out came the shifter so I could shove it half way into reverse, that is the open sesami for taking the lid off |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Busted Knuckles Garage
to be honest with you all, I removed the top case off the transmission because I was skierd to take off the sides, you see I looked at so many transmission pics and diagrams, somewhere along the way I got confused into thinking the sides are attached to linkages and rods and clips that when undone I would never git back into place
I am happy to find out that is not the case and that the side panels are just for inspection / cleaning if you will and let me tell you this transmission is as simple as it gets, and very well put together, simple and strong but as I went to remove the second side cover, that's when she drew blood, hmm maybe I'll dub this the Busted Knuckles Garage |
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Damn she bit you! I guess you need to train that trans to play nice
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The old knuckle buster, eh? I tend to wear gloves doing jobs like that these days, I'm tired of cutting up my hands. That and my wife laughs at me when I need yet-another bandaid.
Those side covers are for PTO. The 465 has them on both sides, whereas the earlier SM420 only had a PTO port on one side. As you can see, the gearing is pretty brawny. The straight cut gear is first. I have the same transmission in my 77. Sure, it shifts like a truck tranny, but I like it.
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"Power Take Off" An assortment of devices could be driven from a gear box that bolts to the side transmission. A mechanical winch or a hydraulic pump for a dump bed for example.
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Just a little love bite.
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in case some of you didn't know what's inside those universal joint ends, I took one cup off to see them roller bearings for myself
top tip is to put tape around them when off the vehicle so they don't slip off on their own I will be replacing mine with brand new ones, so I am not too worried |
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Re: Restoring Rusty - Driveshaft
since the transmission gaskets had to be special ordered and won't arrive till Tuesday, I had to change gears (see what I did there, LOL) and move on to something else to keep The Greg busy
so working our way from the front of the truck to the back, and having cleaned and semi assembled the clutch, and torn appart the tranny, the Drive Shaft was next so the wire wheeling gets under way... |
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so after transfering all the rust and dust off of the driveshaft on to me, I gave it a little acid wipe (that's what discolored it a bit, heck it might have even been flash rust) and then it was time to POR it on
last pic not too good, cause of shadows and the sun, but I wasn't gonna pick up a wet piece just to move it in the shade for a pic |
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