72 k20 project

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by jbclassix

So, why just angle the exhaust manifold rather than fabricate a complete masterpiece? Educate please.

for this engine it really wasnt necessary to improve the OEM manifold. this one is going to be somewhere in the 500hp range. so as opposed to create a huge can of worms trying to make a manifold(and believe me, i thought about it) it was more sensible to go with an OEM. since i cant leave anything alone, i had to cut it to fit my needs. the next engine will probably get a fabricated exhaust and intake. looking for 1k HP from that one, so a masterpiece will be better. also, in the name of tax deductions i am going to try to get myself a tig welder this year, and that will greatly assist in making a manifold.

[mx289]

Looking good Ryan.
Those stands look killer.

Tom

[ryanroo]

Thanks!

i melted the mounts together. these mounts are big and give me a solid landing pad for the turbo support and on the other side i need to fab a rear support for the hydraulic pump and air compressor.



i also yanked all the stock lift pump and fuel filter off the engine. i'm going to have to start thinking about fuel filters and lift pump mounts soon and it was in the way anyhow.

[Dieselwrencher]

Nice work Ryan. Does that little heater on your bench work pretty good?

[ryanroo]

the yellow one works fast, but doesnt cover much area... haha

usually what ill do with that is turn in on when i head to the gym. it cuts the chill down enough by the time i get back that i can usually be fine. i have a propane space heater that i run if it is real cold. as long as i am parking something in the garage that is warmed up when its parked, the garage space stays over 40 most of the winter. so as long as i can get it up to about 50 i can work comfortably

[Dieselwrencher]

40* sounds like summer for around here right now.

[ryanroo]

i installed the now cooled off enough to touch mounts on the engine. everything worked after welding with no problems.





then i could do this





so could measure the back of the engine.

[Dieselwrencher]

Ryan, nice work. It looks like it balances out nicely.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Ryan, nice work. It looks like it balances out nicely.

Thanks Buddy. it did come out well. i looked at the OEM oilpan after i pulled the trans. i may actually be able to make one work if i rework a pick up tube. i kind of want to have a BA aluminum pan, but i am considering taking the easy way and just cut and paste on a stocker. the trouble is, my pan is junk, so... i either buy a new one and chop it up, or buy some aluminum and sacrifice several extra hours of my life for the sake of wow factor.

anyhow,

i got my engine stand finished up and pulled the engine. now the cleaning and tearing down starts and i will be ordering seal kits soon.

[BigRed76]

Now that's an engine stand, it makes a Cummins look small

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by BigRed76

Now that's an engine stand, it makes a Cummins look small

that was my first thought when i looked at it. "man, that doesnt look that big..." must be the pink, sucks the manly right out of everything. haha

this thing is solid as a rock. several times i leaned into a tight bolt and it never crossed my mind that i was working on a engine that was on a stand. not an experience i've had before...

looks nice and clean up top



KDP is in place and never been tabbed. lucky.



definitely need a sleeve.



need a bigger bag...

[mx289]

That is an awesome stand Ryan.

Of course its pink.!

Tom

[classicthrasher]

Originally Posted by ryanroo

i got my engine stand finished up and pulled the engine. now the cleaning and tearing down starts and i will be ordering seal kits soon.

Where do you get your gaskets and internal replacement parts? I'm guessing the local parts store would have most of the stuff, but didn't know if you use Cummins stuff or had a preference on aftermarket. (Begin thread hijack). I have a 95 dodge auto trans motor that needs at least gaskets. I have no idea of mileage, but the head and water pump have been replaced more recently than anything else. New to the diesel world and not sure how far into the motor I should go...pull the head and make sure pistons and cylinders are okay? Motor is currently in a p30 bread van and has an nv4500 behind it, and runs. I drove it 70 miles home without a hitch. You or Diesel Wrenchers (or anyone else's) advice would be appreciated. What do I need to do to get reliable and economical 350-400 HP from a 160hp motor?
Thanks. Great build as well. I enjoy seeing the fantastic welding and fab.

Oh, no signature yet as I haven't really done anything to my project...49 Chevy 3600 is what this is going in.

[6lcummins]

Originally Posted by classicthrasher

Where do you get your gaskets and internal replacement parts? I'm guessing the local parts store would have most of the stuff, but didn't know if you use Cummins stuff or had a preference on aftermarket. (Begin thread hijack). I have a 95 dodge auto trans motor that needs at least gaskets. I have no idea of mileage, but the head and water pump have been replaced more recently than anything else. New to the diesel world and not sure how far into the motor I should go...pull the head and make sure pistons and cylinders are okay? Motor is currently in a p30 bread van and has an nv4500 behind it, and runs. I drove it 70 miles home without a hitch. You or Diesel Wrenchers (or anyone else's) advice would be appreciated. What do I need to do to get reliable and economical 350-400 HP from a 160hp motor?
Thanks. Great build as well. I enjoy seeing the fantastic welding and fab.

Oh, no signature yet as I haven't really done anything to my project...49 Chevy 3600 is what this is going in.

As far as gaskets, I know we tend to go with Genuine Cummins Gaskets. We also have another source that we get overhaul kits from. I'm DieselWrenchers brother BTW. To get the HP goal you want its some pretty small adjustments but it will depend how good your clutch is too. As far how hard you push it. I'd do Injectors, governor springs, and play with the AFC and be good.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by 6lcummins

As far as gaskets, I know we tend to go with Genuine Cummins Gaskets. We also have another source that we get overhaul kits from. I'm DieselWrenchers brother BTW. To get the HP goal you want its some pretty small adjustments but it will depend how good your clutch is too. As far how hard you push it. I'd do Injectors, governor springs, and play with the AFC and be good.

Well, he is alive! haha

i had typed out the same basic response, but i guess i hit the back button instead of the submit button or something. i dont really know what happened.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by classicthrasher

Where do you get your gaskets and internal replacement parts? I'm guessing the local parts store would have most of the stuff, but didn't know if you use Cummins stuff or had a preference on aftermarket. (Begin thread hijack). I have a 95 dodge auto trans motor that needs at least gaskets. I have no idea of mileage, but the head and water pump have been replaced more recently than anything else. New to the diesel world and not sure how far into the motor I should go...pull the head and make sure pistons and cylinders are okay? Motor is currently in a p30 bread van and has an nv4500 behind it, and runs. I drove it 70 miles home without a hitch. You or Diesel Wrenchers (or anyone else's) advice would be appreciated. What do I need to do to get reliable and economical 350-400 HP from a 160hp motor?
Thanks. Great build as well. I enjoy seeing the fantastic welding and fab.

Oh, no signature yet as I haven't really done anything to my project...49 Chevy 3600 is what this is going in.

Hopefully Ryan doesn't mind a bit of a hijack...

Stay away from felpro head gaskets for these engines. They are junk. We've even had multiple failures of the blie felpro valve cover gaskets. We usually use genuine cummins parts because they are better in quality and we can get them locally. That bread truck didn't come from Lathrop did it?

[Dieselwrencher]

Ryan, that stand does make the engine look small. You did a great job on that stand. I'm jealous. Why bag your engine now? You've had the lower end open for a while. Haha I know where a stock pan is or even a little different more capacity pan is as well.

[classicthrasher]

Yes, it came from Lathrop.

[ryanroo]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Ryan, that stand does make the engine look small. You did a great job on that stand. I'm jealous. Why bag your engine now? You've had the lower end open for a while. Haha I know where a stock pan is or even a little different more capacity pan is as well.

Thanks! i figured you would be jealous after the pink paint.... i covered the bottom any time stuff was flying. but its easy for stuff to fall in the top, hard fro it to fall in the bottom. plus. dust season is coming. i just need to be in the habit of keeping it clean. we see a lot of utah in the air during the spring wind season.

ill think on the pan. i am still on the fence as to weather i want a flashy pan, or an easy one.. haha


and why would i care about a thread jack at this point? this thing is all over the board already, the more the merrier!

[ryanroo]

so, i got the pump pulled. i cant stress how nice this stand is to work on. i didnt want it to pop off and land of the floor. Quick little spin of the handle and no more issue. no amount(as of yet) of my fiddling has mad it shake. i need to make some parking brakes, as it moves to easy, but that is a good thing.





these pumps are huge.

[6BT 56]

Why is the ruffest tuffest eng stand on the planet pink ? Lol....

[ryanroo]

exactly!

[84chevyguyid]

Those pumps remind me of the old caterpillars, has a pony motor hanging off the side of the engine.

[Dieselwrencher]

They definitely are big. Ryan, you could make some steel wheel chocks to put around the wheels.

[6lcummins]

Originally Posted by ryanroo

Well, he is alive! haha

i had typed out the same basic response, but i guess i hit the back button instead of the submit button or something. i dont really know what happened.

Yep I am alive, just been lurking and keeping busy.

Originally Posted by ryanroo

Thanks! i figured you would be jealous after the pink paint.... i covered the bottom any time stuff was flying. but its easy for stuff to fall in the top, hard fro it to fall in the bottom. plus. dust season is coming. i just need to be in the habit of keeping it clean. we see a lot of utah in the air during the spring wind season.

ill think on the pan. i am still on the fence as to weather i want a flashy pan, or an easy one.. haha


and why would i care about a thread jack at this point? this thing is all over the board already, the more the merrier!

If you can wait, I know of some billet o-ringed oil pan rails being made....