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Zoomin · 09-24-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CC69Rat

6+2" blocks looks really good on BigAl's truck with the Coys. That's closer to what I'm after and the 45's might look better that way. I love the 'tucked' look.

I know this GMC is a pretty rare truck BUT, it's mine and I'm not really building it to re-sell. It didn't come with 4 wheel discs originally either .. I'm not afraid to notch it. Stance is everything on these trucks. We'll see what happens.

It sure would be easy with the bed off of it.

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Originally Posted by CC69Rat

Yeah, I'd have to get the lower too. I just don't have that piece or the relocators just yet.

I talked to dad about it over the weekend. With new wood and hours invested in the polishing / varnish on the wood I seriously doubt I will ever haul anything in the truck. If I do, it won't be much.

What if I just took it down as far as possible without notching? I would cut it BUT, it's just something that can't be reversed. While I'd love to see it looooww.. the more I think about it I think I'd regret it. Big decision .. and you know how I am.

You need to get your two personalities reconciled.

CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 03:49 PM

Just for that, I'm going to lower the front and Jack the back way up with Buckshot mudders on my new wheels.

I KNOW ! I change my mind a lot.

I'm not afraid to cut a frame for a notch, but I'm just not sure I want to cut the frame of a 70 SG / CST. I can tell you my stepper will be notched. It's just an original base truck, 6cyl 3OTT.

Zoomin · 09-24-2012, 04:00 PM

I know exactly how you feel. I'm the same way. Here's something to think about - If SG / CST's were ever going to be worth a lot of money, that time would be now. They made a bajillion of them - 1 less isn't going to stop the world from spinning. And while it's not easily reversed, I don't think it lessens the value any. Years from now when Buckshot Mudders are all the rage, you'll still be able to run them.

And when that time fiannly comes, you'll be in a nursing home trying to steady your drool cup. Cutting that vintage frame will be the last thing on your mind.

CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 04:06 PM

CNotching a CST, or Mini Tubs in a 69 Camaro .. The value added to get the look of a hot rod / up to date suspension / brakes, etc would essentially offset it I know. I may take it to 6.5" or so and just see where it's at. If it's not low enough I have access to a rack so I could do a bolt in notch later on. But, no, I'm not afraid to .. It's just a $2,500 truck.. right?

Just a big decision.

shawno72 · 09-24-2012, 04:13 PM

Chad I ran a 6 7/8" rear drop for about 8-9 months and the ride sucked the whole time. I just put the notch in on Saturday and let me tell you I am still kicking myself for not doing it earlier. If you want it low you are going to have to notch it, whether it be sooner or later it will have to happen.

CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 04:26 PM

Can you notch it without cutting the frame rails?

Will it bleed when I cut it?

(kidding .. )

It will probably happen sooner than later.

original-71 · 09-24-2012, 04:50 PM

Chad i really think 6.5 is about the lowest you can go without notching, knock on wood ive never had any issues

shawno72 · 09-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Can you notch it without cutting the frame rails?

Will it bleed when I cut it?

You can't even tell my frame was cut

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VA72C10 · 09-24-2012, 05:07 PM

Just save the cutout...if someone wants to they could weld it back in later....it's only metal

CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 05:11 PM

That PB notch is crazy strong too. Does anyone know where I could find a picture of the lower shock bar and how the brackets mount? How does that all fit? Does it mount on top of the trailing arm and one side (having two mounting points) One for the lower shock cross bar and the other for the track bar? Am I seeing this correctly?

It would be PB if I notch it. (since I have the other stuff already) I'd just get another set for the stepper when I could.

big_al_71 · 09-24-2012, 05:22 PM

my brother in laws 69 camaro minitubbed....no regrets!!!

shawno72 · 09-24-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by big_al_71

my brother in laws 69 camaro minitubbed....no regrets!!!

I'll take it!!!

Tinkermc · 09-24-2012, 07:23 PM

Camero turned out very nice

NoNeck · 09-24-2012, 08:26 PM

You might as well notch it and take away any doubts about the rear bottoming out. Then you can pick up that that load of pressure-treated lumber for your new deck that the wifey wants us to build.

POP

**lolife99** · 09-24-2012, 08:29 PM

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You might as well notch it and take away any doubts about the rear bottoming out. Then you can pick up that that load of pressure-treated lumber for your new deck that the wifey wants us to build.

POP

I agree.

Rusbuilt · 09-24-2012, 09:51 PM

Mine is a 6" drop in the rear and I have a notch to install but haven't yet. However I can tell you... It needs it! I can jump up and down in the bed and it bottoms out.

CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 09:49 PM

Pop, I can see a Home Depot trip after you block that tailgate, and we could always just let the ends of the wood rest agaist the front panel and wheel wells.
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CC69Rat · 09-24-2012, 10:05 PM

Just found out my other wheel is back in the sort facility in Chicago.. lets hope it gets routed correctly this time.

Fingers crossed..
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Zoomin · 09-24-2012, 10:28 PM

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Just found out my other wheel is back in the sort facility in Chicago.. lets hope it gets routed correctly this time.

Fingers crossed..
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What a shame to have those awesome wheels with a massive air gap over it.

Just messin witchaman
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CC69Rat · 09-25-2012, 07:28 AM

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What a shame to have those awesome wheels with a massive air gap over it.

Just messin witchaman
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So, .. Notch it ?

**cericd** · 09-24-2012, 10:31 PM

Hey Chad, I passed on the two steelies. I just feel I will regret not doing a five lug swap from the get go. I'm also contemplating whether or not to do a notch when I drop the truck. I only plan on a 4-6 drop but seems like quite a few people recommend a notch even with a 4-6.

Good luck on the wheel. Hope it arrives soon and safe.

CC69Rat · 09-25-2012, 07:26 AM

Sounds like my Dad is on board now .. I'm shocked I must say but I really feel like I'd be happier with the outcome if it was notched. I can get it lower with the 45's that way.

Next question .. Would 4.5/F and about 7.5/R look goofy? Remember my rear tires will be pretty tall so the truck would sit pretty much level after all is said and done. I'm not sure I want to go any lower than 4.5 up front. I'm thinking notch it, 6" Hotchkis spring and block it to the point I want it to be? 7 or 7.5 maybe? I like a slight rubber rake, ultimately I just don't want the back lower than I can get the front.

255/45/20 and 295/45/20 = 29.03" tall in the front and 30.45" tall in the back.

Chris, when you get ready man I'm serious .. I'll help you swap it over to 5 lug. It's not that big of a deal. Get you some wheels you really want and a 4/6 drop (or more..) and we'll get it done.

CC69Rat · 09-25-2012, 07:33 AM

Pop -- Here's some PB info and pics on the rear notch kit.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=405754

Pretty much what you see here without the bags. We have the notch and upper shock bar in that box over by the back wall. We just need the brackets for the lower shock mount bar, the lower shock bar itself, and Nate's track bar. I really like this setup and getting it ready / without the bed on would be the prime time to do it. It would just be a static version of his Stage II kit with Bilstiens.

http://www.porterbuiltfabrication.co...-Basic-Kit-799

Gus350 · 09-25-2012, 08:31 AM

Started on my notches Sunday......

Lolyin58 · 09-25-2012, 08:43 AM

Chad, notch it man as you will not regret it. It will ride alot better. As for your tire sizes those work well as thats what I had in those pictures that I sent you. Its much easier now with the box off. I put one in on my '66 with the box on and what a royal pain in the butt as you are so limited for room.
Hope you have other wheel in a day or two as that will be a big relief for you. Looking good!!

09-24-2012, 03:49 PM	#2
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Just for that, I'm going to lower the front and Jack the back way up with Buckshot mudders on my new wheels. I KNOW ! I change my mind a lot. I'm not afraid to cut a frame for a notch, but I'm just not sure I want to cut the frame of a 70 SG / CST. I can tell you my stepper will be notched. It's just an original base truck, 6cyl 3OTT. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 04:00 PM	#3
Zoomin Man of Mini-Talents Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,295	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop I know exactly how you feel. I'm the same way. Here's something to think about - If SG / CST's were ever going to be worth a lot of money, that time would be now. They made a bajillion of them - 1 less isn't going to stop the world from spinning. And while it's not easily reversed, I don't think it lessens the value any. Years from now when Buckshot Mudders are all the rage, you'll still be able to run them. And when that time fiannly comes, you'll be in a nursing home trying to steady your drool cup. Cutting that vintage frame will be the last thing on your mind. __________________ Steve Project - Ruth 66 Skylark Project - Lola 60 Biscayne Project - Iron Ox 54 GMC 100 Project - Darth 69 Camaro

09-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#4
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop CNotching a CST, or Mini Tubs in a 69 Camaro .. The value added to get the look of a hot rod / up to date suspension / brakes, etc would essentially offset it I know. I may take it to 6.5" or so and just see where it's at. If it's not low enough I have access to a rack so I could do a bolt in notch later on. But, no, I'm not afraid to .. It's just a $2,500 truck.. right? Just a big decision. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 04:13 PM	#5
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Chad I ran a 6 7/8" rear drop for about 8-9 months and the ride sucked the whole time. I just put the notch in on Saturday and let me tell you I am still kicking myself for not doing it earlier. If you want it low you are going to have to notch it, whether it be sooner or later it will have to happen. __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

09-24-2012, 04:26 PM	#6
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Can you notch it without cutting the frame rails? Will it bleed when I cut it? (kidding .. ) It will probably happen sooner than later. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 04:50 PM	#7
original-71 ///Relaxed Atmosphere Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 1,266	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Chad i really think 6.5 is about the lowest you can go without notching, knock on wood ive never had any issues __________________ 71-Cheyenne Super (E.C.E Static Drop 4.5/7". Intro Rally's 20X8.5 5" B.S 255/35/20 (F) 20X10 5.25 B.S 275/35/20 (R) 87-Silverado Static Drop 5/7" Raceline Explosion 5 22X8.5 (F) 22X10 (R) hector _________________________________ 1971 Chevrolet Cheyenne Super 1987 Chevrolet Silverado 2006 Ford Mustang GT 2012 Toyota 4-Runner 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport Crew Cab

09-24-2012, 05:07 PM	#9
VA72C10 VA72C10 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 25,269	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Just save the cutout...if someone wants to they could weld it back in later....it's only metal __________________ Looking for a 67-72 swb or blazer project in or around VA.

09-24-2012, 05:11 PM	#10
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop That PB notch is crazy strong too. Does anyone know where I could find a picture of the lower shock bar and how the brackets mount? How does that all fit? Does it mount on top of the trailing arm and one side (having two mounting points) One for the lower shock cross bar and the other for the track bar? Am I seeing this correctly? It would be PB if I notch it. (since I have the other stuff already) I'd just get another set for the stepper when I could. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 05:22 PM	#11
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop my brother in laws 69 camaro minitubbed....no regrets!!! Attached Images __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

09-24-2012, 07:23 PM	#13
Tinkermc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Farmville, Va Posts: 3,026	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Camero turned out very nice

09-24-2012, 08:26 PM	#14
NoNeck Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,108	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop You might as well notch it and take away any doubts about the rear bottoming out. Then you can pick up that that load of pressure-treated lumber for your new deck that the wifey wants us to build. POP __________________ 2016 RAM Laramie HEMI 1966 Fairlane GT/A, 390/335 HP If it costs you a dollar to make a friend, KEEP THE DOLLAR. If it costs you a friend to make a dollar, KEEP THE FRIEND.

09-24-2012, 09:51 PM	#16
Rusbuilt Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 5,381	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Mine is a 6" drop in the rear and I have a notch to install but haven't yet. However I can tell you... It needs it! I can jump up and down in the bed and it bottoms out. Attached Images __________________ -Rus PLEASE HELP WITH PROJECT UNDERHAULINPaypal donations accepted @ rus1785@yahoo.com Rusbuilt's garage 1968 Chevy C-30 Darcy SOLD Rusbuilt shop truck *SOLD*

09-24-2012, 09:49 PM	#17
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Pop, I can see a Home Depot trip after you block that tailgate, and we could always just let the ends of the wood rest agaist the front panel and wheel wells. Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 10:05 PM	#18
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Just found out my other wheel is back in the sort facility in Chicago.. lets hope it gets routed correctly this time. Fingers crossed.. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-24-2012, 10:31 PM	#21
cericd Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Texan, back in TX Posts: 2,140	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Hey Chad, I passed on the two steelies. I just feel I will regret not doing a five lug swap from the get go. I'm also contemplating whether or not to do a notch when I drop the truck. I only plan on a 4-6 drop but seems like quite a few people recommend a notch even with a 4-6. Good luck on the wheel. Hope it arrives soon and safe.



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09-25-2012, 07:26 AM	#22
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Sounds like my Dad is on board now .. I'm shocked I must say but I really feel like I'd be happier with the outcome if it was notched. I can get it lower with the 45's that way. Next question .. Would 4.5/F and about 7.5/R look goofy? Remember my rear tires will be pretty tall so the truck would sit pretty much level after all is said and done. I'm not sure I want to go any lower than 4.5 up front. I'm thinking notch it, 6" Hotchkis spring and block it to the point I want it to be? 7 or 7.5 maybe? I like a slight rubber rake, ultimately I just don't want the back lower than I can get the front. 255/45/20 and 295/45/20 = 29.03" tall in the front and 30.45" tall in the back. Chris, when you get ready man I'm serious .. I'll help you swap it over to 5 lug. It's not that big of a deal. Get you some wheels you really want and a 4/6 drop (or more..) and we'll get it done. __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-25-2012, 07:33 AM	#23
CC69Rat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 6,208	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Pop -- Here's some PB info and pics on the rear notch kit. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=405754 Pretty much what you see here without the bags. We have the notch and upper shock bar in that box over by the back wall. We just need the brackets for the lower shock mount bar, the lower shock bar itself, and Nate's track bar. I really like this setup and getting it ready / without the bed on would be the prime time to do it. It would just be a static version of his Stage II kit with Bilstiens. http://www.porterbuiltfabrication.co...-Basic-Kit-799 __________________ Chad 1967 C10 SWB - Project Savannah - 6.0/4L80 Currently underway 1968 C10 SWB - TOTY 2018, 50th Anniversary Tribute Project * Sold * Pride and Joy 1986 Silverado Short Fleet - Scarlet Sold 1985 Silverado Short Fleet Sold 2022 Jeep Gladiator Mojave 2001 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted, Built 1992 Jeep Cherokee XJ 4x4 - Lifted 2013 Honda Accord EX-L v6 Coupe 6spd (wife's ride)

09-25-2012, 08:31 AM	#24
Gus350 68 C 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Advance ,Mo Posts: 554	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Started on my notches Sunday...... Attached Images __________________ Kevin "Life is Hard But its Harder when your Stupid" John Wayne 68 C10 70 C20 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?t=602326#

09-25-2012, 08:43 AM	#25
Lolyin58 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Calgary,Alberta,Canada Posts: 372	Re: Project Grande Slam: Coley's Hot Rod Shop Chad, notch it man as you will not regret it. It will ride alot better. As for your tire sizes those work well as thats what I had in those pictures that I sent you. Its much easier now with the box off. I put one in on my '66 with the box on and what a royal pain in the butt as you are so limited for room. Hope you have other wheel in a day or two as that will be a big relief for you. Looking good!!

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