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Old 11-25-2009, 12:17 AM   #826
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Then lastly I started my fuel tank for this beast. It is being built out of .070 SS and will be right about 28 gal. It will have an intank fuel pump as well. More to come Tuesday.

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Kevin,
I have a little .06" 304 SS stashed out in my "salvage" area. I was thinking about using it to build our gas tank too. Just wondering what you are doing for a pump and bulkhead to mount it? Filler tube should be pretty easy to fab but not too sure if it will need the addition of a vent for making easy fill ups?
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:17 AM   #827
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Thanks but it has a full floor for the 3rd row seats. I have put way too many hours into keeping this floor as low as humanly possible and still be able to lay frame with a 31.5" tall rear tire. How many C10's have you seen with the frame rails on the ground and only a 2" step in the floor! Also this tube work is nothing compared to what the rest of the frame will look like. It will have a photo shoot before getting the body placed back over it and they will be in the build book to see.

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Old 11-25-2009, 03:08 AM   #828
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How many C10's have you seen with the frame rails on the ground and only a 2" step in the floor!
Throw an inverted portal axle under there and do it with no step
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Old 11-25-2009, 03:57 AM   #829
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Throw an inverted portal axle under there and do it with no step
Or front wheel drive and swing axles in the back-NOT!
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:07 PM   #830
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Kevin,
I have a little .06" 304 SS stashed out in my "salvage" area. I was thinking about using it to build our gas tank too. Just wondering what you are doing for a pump and bulkhead to mount it? Filler tube should be pretty easy to fab but not too sure if it will need the addition of a vent for making easy fill ups?
Keep up the great builds!

This is where Rock Valley comes into play. They are providing the pump, mounting plate (weld in style), sender unit and pick up screens. I will have a vent in the tank for ease of filling right next to the fill tube and it will tie back into the fill door area. Their is nothing worse than trying to fill a tank that just keeps clicking off on you.

Frizzle, were have you been hiding, time to get back on the V8 builds don't ya think?

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:18 PM   #831
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Nice tank, but may i ask.... why stainless steel? i have made mine and a few for others out of aluminium. Stainless steel at the thickness you use.07 (1,77 mm) weigths about 14 kg/m2 against 8.3 for aluminium 3 mm thick.(sorry for the metric figures)u can even make the internals out of 2 mm alu.

But as i said, nice tank, like to see it all welded up.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:40 PM   #832
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Nice tank, but may i ask.... why stainless steel? i have made mine and a few for others out of aluminium. Stainless steel at the thickness you use.07 (1,77 mm) weigths about 14 kg/m2 against 8.3 for aluminium 3 mm thick.(sorry for the metric figures)u can even make the internals out of 2 mm alu.

But as i said, nice tank, like to see it all welded up.
I have done them both ways as well but I have a lot of 2'x4' and 10.5"x6' ss plate from one of my job sites left over and personally I am more comfortable tig'ing up SS then Alum for a fuel tank. Plus this tank is only 2" off the ground when laid out so I figured SS would make a better skid plate I will weld it all up once the fill neck and pump plate are installed so I can avoid the tank pulling or pushing in one direction.

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:51 PM   #833
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As a non structural weld im thinking i can use a spool gun on the tank.. Not sure how the baffels ill go though
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Old 11-25-2009, 08:16 PM   #834
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Well I had an hour to kill between honey do's for tomorrow so I made the first 2 mounts. They are 8" long and centered on the sides of the tank front to back. Their are 2 braces per side, the one you can see facing down and one just like it facing up and welded to the first one. This just gives a good "grab" on the side of the tank and a lot of support on the tank in both up and down directions. Next I will do 2 straps running front to back also out of SS. The rear will pin into bracket that will be on the top of the front edge of the trailer hitch and the front mounts will hang off the tube work and have a T-bolt that will tighten the tank up against 1/8" rubber straps between the tank mounts that will go on top for the tank to tighten against. But with just these two side mounts I can stand on the top of the tank with out flex. I used 7/16" bolts with a large square nut welded in side the frame rails.

The first pic is with the system at level 3 (90% up). Second pic is level 2 (ride height 50%) with 8" of tank clearance. Third is level 1 (10%) up and the last is aired out but the front still has 1 1/2" to come down after we put the new front top arms in so that will raise the tank another 1/4"+ or so.
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Old 11-26-2009, 12:50 AM   #835
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That is a nice looking tank! I think it will work very good. Keep the pictures coming. How much is the kit for the tank going to set you back with the pump and all? I may be interested in one too. thanks,
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:41 AM   #836
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Kevin, how hard is it to tig that stainless? I have been wanting to learn, but just havent got off my bum and done it.
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:31 AM   #837
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Kevin, how hard is it to tig that stainless? I have been wanting to learn, but just havent got off my bum and done it.
It is not that hard, it flows nice if you have nice and tight seems.
The only thing i experience is the warping of the material. But that is with every material you weld.
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:48 AM   #838
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Kevin, how hard is it to tig that stainless? I have been wanting to learn, but just havent got off my bum and done it.
Personally I think SS is by far the easiest to Tig. It is a very clean and takes to welding great. Yes you will get some warpage but that is also why this tank is made out of .070 so it should not be as bad as most. I also find if you have your joints about 1/64" over lapped you don't even need to add filler for a leak free joint.

The mounting plate (8w x 15.5L x 1" deep) correct pump for my LSX motor and the sending unit for my gauge was $425 + shipping. The pump mount is done in SS and has the locking ring like the 73+ tanks do and the Sender is drilled and tapped for easy mounting.

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Old 11-26-2009, 03:09 AM   #839
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Personally I think SS is by far the easiest to Tig. It is a very clean and takes to welding great. Yes you will get some warpage but that is also why this tank is made out of .070 so it should not be as bad as most. I also find if you have your joints about 1/64" over lapped you don't even need to add filler for a leak free joint.

The mounting plate (8w x 15.5L x 1" deep) correct pump for my LSX motor and the sending unit for my gauge was $425 + shipping. The pump mount is done in SS and has the locking ring like the 73+ tanks do and the Sender is drilled and tapped for easy mounting.

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I have been thinking about building one for my tow truck, it only has a 18 gallon tank right now so when things get busy I have had a couple of times I have coasted into a fuel station on fumes.

I think it should be easy enoguh to do using a tank selector for a 70's model with saddle tanks, seeing as how the wrecker has an external fuel pump.

Did you fab the lock ring, or did it come with the kit?
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I have been thinking about building one for my tow truck, it only has a 18 gallon tank right now so when things get busy I have had a couple of times I have coasted into a fuel station on fumes.

I think it should be easy enoguh to do using a tank selector for a 70's model with saddle tanks, seeing as how the wrecker has an external fuel pump.

Did you fab the lock ring, or did it come with the kit?
It is part of the kit that Rock Valley sells. Mine has not been delivered yet but as soon as it is I will post many pics of the unit and the install.

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Old 11-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #841
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Hey Kevin, Happy Thanksgiving! Thought I'd wave as I went by. I just passed Winters on my way to Modesto.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:01 PM   #842
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Wow! Those seats turned out really nice, almost like they're supposed to be there.
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Wow! Those seats turned out really nice, almost like they're supposed to be there.
Yeah I was pleasantly surprised with how well they fit also.

Your truck sure is looking good but one questions for ya. Did you get to keep the color matched guitar from the music video? That was just too cool!

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Old 11-30-2009, 12:04 PM   #844
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Movin right along! I might have to come by and check out the progress!
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I sent him an e-mail Saturday and a PM but have not heard back on ether yet? The price was a steel if you could finish it your self. Just for a sounding board if I were to sell mine as is right now it would be in the $25-35k range with parts and time figured in. I know that seams like a lot but $ and hours don't lie.

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Old 12-02-2009, 02:53 AM   #846
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PorterBuilts new hood hinge kit showed up tonight and I can't wait to give it a shot. I hope to have a chance to do the install and write up by mid next week if not sooner. I am so tired of having to lift the hood on and off by my self or asking for help. With my front tire size of 30.5" and being able to lay frame I did not have a lot of options. I even went as far as working up a new 4 link forward tilt set up but this will save so much time and frustration (better left to other projects) and will allow better working conditions as well.

Have you guys seen what comes in the kit? Quality cut and welded parts, machined bushings and a but load of SS nuts, bolts, flat washers and lock washers. Out of all the hardware the only things that are not SS are the two pivot bolt sets and I assume that is just because SS does not have a ware rate like Non SS does. Definitely well worth what the asking price is and then some.
Thanks Nate for another Great product!

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That looks really nice.
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:40 AM   #848
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they do look nice..maybe one day..

i was lookin at my moms 96 explorer today and it looks like the hinge setup is similar..i just glanced at it. i didnt really look into it much but it looks like it folds into the firewall too.
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they do look nice..maybe one day..

i was lookin at my moms 96 explorer today and it looks like the hinge setup is similar..i just glanced at it. i didnt really look into it much but it looks like it folds into the firewall too.
Nope! I have a set sittin in the front of the Tahoe right now and they would not even come close to working. The hinge pivot points are way off.

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So I have been killing my self setting my hood on and off during my 72 Tahoe build. With a 30.5" tall front tire little things like hood hinges kind of get in the way. So my thoughts are that since Nate from PorterBuilt street rods is the reason I am so low and can not run a stock hinge that he should be the one to fix the problem as well! And now he has!!

What Nate has come up with is a cowl mounted Hinge kit that really works. Not like the others that only let your hood open half way or the $1K scissor type that are hard to set up right then they still are not real stable (side to side) when they are up.

This install took me about 4 hours to complete and the results are out standing. Easy to install with basic tools (plus a welder), the hood opens up 7" higher then stock hinges, way more solid and firm then any hoods I have dealt with. Also since these are a single pivot point style hinge un-like the factory hinges you will not have to push the rear of the hood down for it to close all the way. It will line up the same way every time you open or close the hood. Their were a few snags and we will get to that as they come up in the install. Lets get to it!

Ok first thing to do is remove the hood, cowl and stock hood hinges. Then you need to find the center point of the front of the cowl area and put a piece of masking tape their that you can write on. Then from this center mark you will go left and right 23" each way so the hinges will be 46" from center to center. I used masking tape to make all my marks on so it is easy to change if you make a mistake and also it will help protect the paint for the painted guys. Ok so once you make your two hinge marks 46" apart from each other you are ready to make a templet so you can transfer the hinge mounting holes and center slot.

So the first step is to mark the hinges for Passenger and Drivers side. Take the hinge box's and set them side by side so the top of the box's are touching like in the pic and not the bottoms. Once you have done this put a P on the left one for Passenger and a D on the right one for Drivers side.

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Take one of the hinges and place it face down on a piece of poster board and trace the out line of the hinge box, center slot and the 4 mounting holes.
Now their is a P and a D to this templet as well so put a mark showing what is what. After I cut this out I placed the box back over it and used a transfer punch to get exact centers for the holes.

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Then take the templet and place it so the 46" marks you made are in the center of the slot you cut out and that the bottom of the templet is tight to the bottom of the wire gutter. I used 2 small magnets to holt it in place while I transferred the mounting holes with a center punch. and marked the slot with a pen.

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Then I drilled out the the 4 mounting holes with a 5/16" bit but I did not cut the slot out yet. First I set the Passenger side box over the area where it will go and marked out the area I needed to remove so it could slide into the cowl. Only remove as little as you have to so it will fit. Then slide it into place and install 4 bolts just to locate it in the correct spot. It should be sitting flat to the bottom of the cowl at this time. I then used a C clamp to hold it tight so I could mark and drill the 2 bottom holes that will go through the cowl in to the cabin.

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At this point I chose to use regular hardware for all my mock up because SS is great but does not lend it self well for going in and out too much. So I will keep the SS in a bag and when I am ready for final assembly I will set it all with the regular hardware, tighten it all down and then when I am happy with it I will remove 1 bolt at a time and install the SS with a bit of anti-sieze.

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Then I marked for the (2) 3/8" holes for the center slot. The first one went at the bottom of the marked out slot but 1/4" up. The top hole will be for now right on the corner of the top of the cowl. After they are drilled I removed the tape and scribed 2 lines from top to bottom of each hole. I marked mine just inside the lines of where I thought it would end up then I cut out the section. I then clamped the box back in place using the bolts to align it once again. I then took a die grinder and gently remove the rest of the metal around the slot until it was just flush with the slot cut in the box. By doing it this way you end up with a very clean hole that just looks right.

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