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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Here's final install after dropping 'er on the ground and final torquing of bolts. Overall, I'm fairly happy with the install..... after making the necessary modifications.... I guess I just figured for a $250 sway bar, that I would not be left guessing at how to properly install the thing, have to upgrade hardware, replace parts, and have the coating flaking off before I even drive it...
![]() Never mind my 'battle scars' on the LCAs--they'll be replaced soon enough ![]() I am VERY happy with the handling after installing the bar. HUGE difference from not having one at all yesterday, though I can't really tell the difference from the GM 1.25 bar I had in there before, but at least this one will work with my PB arms...
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Man, night and day vs no bar! No 'seat of the pants' diff that I can tell from the 'old' bar, though...
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
One of the things installing this bar did was allow me to isolate the feel of the new steering gear and let me tell you, this thing is GREAT. Kudos to RedHead Steering Gears. My old, LAPS rebuilt box was heavy feeling and made the PS pump whine, moan, and complain constantly. The on-center feel was poor and I could never get the alignment quite right.
With the new box installed, the steering feels lighter than before, but very controlled. It has a good on-center feel, but man, when you tell it to turn, it's going where you point it! The pump is now as quiet as a dead mouse, the tie-rod ends are even on both sides, and MY TURN SIGNALS CANCEL!!! Sorry for 'yelling', but that is COOL ![]() Coupla pics, though you guys have seen steering boxes before. Nice, high quality fit/finish on this piece. I used 73-87 style over the framerail hoses and clamp to keep things tidy. I'm ready to get to the brakes so I can clean up the lines and combo valve ugliness...
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Good write up,but I hate that it had the issues.
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Nice job on the sway bar install, I switched over to grade 8 hardware as well. Wasn't comfortable with the grade 5 that came with it. I did however use a 5" bolt with the spacers to mount the bar to my tubular arms. I also bent the mounts to match the frame where it bends so it wouldn't bind up the bushing.
Glad to hear you like the redhead steering box, I'm definitely going to look into it. Did you say you got the quick ratio box? Posted via Mobile Device
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Thanks! I may stick with the 5" links, but it looks like a 6" w/ 1" spacer will do the trick with the tube arms, as the mounts are lower. We will see soon (arms deliver tomorrow). Still not sure what they intended the 10" links for, but I'll put 'em to good use out back...
The RedHead gear is NICE. I'm curious to see what it's gonna feel like with all new, tight steering linkage (pitman, idler, tie-rods) and the forward arms. Yes, I went with the 'quick' ratio. It is approx 3.5 turns lock-to-lock vs stock 4.5, but does not limit turning radius. My spindles contact the steering stops on both sides, something it never did with the old, variable ratio box. Yeah, the RedHead is twice the money of an LAPS rebuild, but it's at least twice as nice and $100 less than their nearest competitor... Posted via Mobile Device
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Nice! I'm very interested in the Red Head box.... I've got a "new" rebuilt unit now, I may have to upgrade in the not-so-distant future.
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
There are so many Awesome trucks on this site, and yours is definitely one of 'em ! You have some fab skills man !
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
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Still not sure what they intended the 10" links for, but I'll put 'em to good use out back... Looks like the bar is upside down. if you flip it, the 10" links might be right. Normally the bars sweep UPWARD as they go back toward the control arms..... I need the 10" links for my Porterbuilt Touring coilover dropmember with the ADDCO bar and tubular lowers on my '65. I am still waiting for them as they shipped the short bolts with my setup.
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
A little clarification on the sway bar hardware:
The 10" links are for the Touring and Mild Dropmembers. The shorter links are for the factory x-member application. Looks like you received the incorrect end link hardware. ![]()
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
To maximize the mechanical advantage and minimize binding a sway bar should be mounted parallel to the ground and mounted as far out on the lower control arms as possible. Looks to me like the ADDCO bar nailed both of those. You may not feel the difference on the street but if you were on the track I bet you'd feel a difference between the ADDCO and the factory sway bar.
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
More truck parts in the living room: PB 1" forward lower control arms came in--including some upper arms I didn't order that I'll have to send back
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
...and a shot with the billet spring retainer/adapter loosely bolted in place. Genius in its simplicity--I just hope the spring doesn't want to rotate without something holding the end of the 'pigtail'...
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
had been following this but lost it somehow. following again!
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Sheew! spent the last few hours reading your build. Very nice work! I see a few ideas I will have to borrow from this build. Great job, love the paint treatment and wheel smoothing. Lots of nice touches without breaking the bank.
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
More nice parts, I like it!
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Re: How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10
Nice parts your going to love the Tubular Arms, i know i do. I also love the fact that you can run Coils on it just with the billet adapter good to know in case I ever decided to go back to coils. Not that I ever see that happening but you never know.
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