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I don't get excited over many rigs anymore but that burb is one that I really like the looks of.
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https://losangeles.craigslist.org/an...454004769.html
Looks like a decent starting point if you want a 4x4 Task Force.
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Honest question Dan, are prices for old Trucks actually that crazy in California?
That is maybe a 3500/4000 dollar truck Iin this area. A documented Napco Conversion would be worth a bit more but for 12K here it had better run, drive and have new tires on it and be ready to go down the road and a conversion with ??? running gear doesn't add a lot of value.
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Right now the price any vehicle is way up. Many dealerships haven't had any new cars or trucks in months. Bad news if you find one you will pay thru nose. Trucks of all ages are in huge demand and restored ones are moving at record prices. The down side is $5-8+ gallon fuel which may just flat kill the economy. Add in inflation, high shipping costs and lack of parts and restoration may take a huge hit when folks realize what is happening and who is responsible.
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My question is just that it always seems that the asking price for Vintage tin in Southern California is about twice to four times what it might be in other parts of the country outside of the rust belt.
If you study that 58 a bit it is a mix match of parts including 4x4 front axle and a 5 lug rear axle. It's the over all high prices on old Chevy truck stuff down there that has me curious. 200 for a door that I might price at 75 here and get lowballed on that all day. As far as new cars, the lots here are still pretty empty and the nonsense you see on the net about huge discounts on left over 2021 models is just that, nonsense. It's sticker price and no haggle here right now. The used car lots are full of late models though and probably a lot of them were bank repos.
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nice enough truck to start with but pretty high price on it for me. gmc logo but chevy dash in truck makes me think it was swapped to a gmc at some point or it was a cab swap at some point. otherwise it could be a commercial unit they made that usually had 2 headlights where they were supposed to have 4 and also a diffwrent grille and bumper set up.
box shell looks good, cab corners look solid, steps and floor look suspect which usually means the hinge pillar and cab mounts are also rotten, never know though. somebody will but it, just wait. maybe we will meet him on here asking for help. |
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All I know is folks literally fighting over way overpriced cars. Saw another used Jeep Gladiator for sale. I went down real quick but it was gone for 2k+ over asking via the phone. Again the dealership tried to buy my 2004 Ram for almost 28K on the spot!!!
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I'd bet that the guy bought it for a beer money price out of someone's back yard where it has sat for 20 years and now is trying to get rich off the old truck guys in one shot. I've had a couple of would be pickers show up at my lately. One offered me less than scrap price for my 71 like he was doing me a big favor to haul it off.
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mr48chev is dead on. Everyone is trying to get rich quick as they think they need to be rich to survive. Another example is a house we passed on that sold for 892K new owner is asking $1.8. Seems everything from old trucks to a gallon of milk is going that way.
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If you go back to the beginning of my build thread back in 2011 I paid $4600 for my '55 big window. It was running though it needed a full tune up and fluids changed. Had already been converted to 283/350TH/10 bolt rearend with 5 lugs all around and I got criticized for paying that. I thought it was a good deal then and it is a spectacular deal now. Same truck today someone would ask stupid money like $20,000 for it and claim it had "patina" - it DIDN'T!
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Your 4600 in 2011 was for what you didn't have to do that was already done. Decent truck as it was Plus it is a big window. That alone has been serious markup on 55/57 TF 3100 trucks since the early 70's at least. I wanted one real bad in 1974 and couldn't find one I could afford then. Paid 400 for a 57 Panel with a 327 in it that you couldn't replace for 4 K today. I should have put the 283 in that panel and kept the 327.
That 59 would be a hard to sell for 6K truck in this area. The not right for a 4x4 rear axle makes guys wonder what else is screwed up on it.
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I think this 54 belongs to a forum member:
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/ct...453940180.html
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That truck does look familiar. The total parts list plus the going price for buildable truck pretty well covers the asking price.
I didn't see the runs and drives note but if it is one you can get in and drive home that is a big plus. Plus with the 2.7 gears you should be able to get over 20 mpg on the highway.
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56 6500 with a hoist that doesn't look all that bad. https://yakima.craigslist.org/pts/d/...445521350.html
The price is realistic too.
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https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...792026&page=94 Seems like a good price. If it were a 47-53 I would have contacted the seller.
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The more I look at it the better that on looks. Drive it as and just do some things to it like a sound system or do the body and paint work and spiff it up and have one really nice truck.
That doesn't have to be a rushed into project either. Some of the work like the cab corners could be a one at a time thing that don't call for having the truck torn down for a length of time and a bit of primer is just a badge of honor on the paint as you do a bit at a time.
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Here is pricey but clean looking start... if that was original paint for sure, then I'd understand the price.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...7099882234310/
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At least that 53 has real patina rather than being a glorified rust bucket. a good cleaning with CLR, a good hand polish and wax job and you have nice old paint that has that soft glow of a well loved and well cared for old saddle.
Still long bed 3/4 ton = 25% deduct off the top. That is running or not Not running or drivable = another price mark down. Bed rotted out, what other neglect does it have? To me the guy wants a get in it and drive it home anywhere within 1000 miles price for a truck that is going to at minimum need the engine rebuilt. I'm thinking that there is a California project truck syndrome where Cali sellers think their project trucks are worth the same as pretty decent running and driving driver quality or maybe better trucks are in the rest of the country outside of the rust belt.
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We also just have severe lowballer syndrome here too, where if you want to sell something for 6,000, you have to ask 10,000 cause people need to feel like they've ripped you off.
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That is true here too. I think the lowballing PMs are a game here as much as they are cash offers. The last car I sold I ended up wishing that I had kept it and found a 3/4 ton 4x4 chassis to stick under it just to have a fun rig that would mess with a few minds.
I see a lot of "Pickers syndrome" here, where it is pretty obvious that the seller just drug a car or truck out of someone's field for beer money and now has it listed at an inflated price. Usually the vehicle is still sitting on the trailer in the photo with weeds hanging off it from when it was drug out of the weeds. The new flippers who think that field or barn dirt add value.
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True patina shows a vehicle that someone has tried to maintain down through the years polishing it possibly through the paint to the primer or even bare metal in spots but it really DOES "glow" with care.
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Yeah I think everyone who like patina trucks WANTS a one-owner truck that's been lovingly cleaned and polished for 60 years. Nobody disagrees with that. If we find one, its $20,000 (or its a 60-66 for some reason) so we settle for the neglected one and just start polishing ourselves.
I mean ask any patina fan if they would love to stumble upon a truck thats been in a covered barn since 1972 with most of its paint and some just wearing thin.... MOST are gonna say yes. There just aren't that many. And oddly enough, I like the too far gone paint, the surface rust, etc. its contrast, texture, interest. Thank goodness too, cause paint costs too much!!
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I was thinking that Dan gets it on what "Patina" is. Most guys idea of great patina is that the rust hasn't eaten clear though the sheet metal but is so etched into it that no amount of sanding with 36 grit will ever get it to where you can put a few coats if epoxy primer on it without the rust pits showing through.
Still for 10K I want to be able to get in any truck I buy for that price that doesn't come with a parts collection of pieces that were bought for it and go with it and drive the truck home.
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