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Old 03-07-2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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Just ordered some stainless weld wire through amazon because it was quite a bit cheaper than what I can get locally and both places I called were out of stock anyway. Also ordered my headlight conversion kit from there and an electric fan control for my Jimmy. If you didn't know already, amazon carries a ton of car parts and tools and the prices are either competitive with or flat out cheaper than any online retailer.
Fan control??? What did you get??
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Old 03-07-2012, 08:14 PM   #2
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I ordered a Hayden Automotive 3652 Preset Thermostatic Fan Control from amazon, on sale right now for about $22 bucks.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:28 PM   #3
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I ordered a Hayden Automotive 3652 Preset Thermostatic Fan Control from amazon, on sale right now for about $22 bucks.
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Ahh gotcha. I have dual electric fans that are wired to a switch in the intake manifold. When it hits 195 the fans turn on, when it cools down the fans turn off. I was wondering if i should get something that will have them maybe run at 1/2 power at a certain temperature. No what i mean??
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:48 PM   #4
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Thre are dual set ups available that will turn on one fan and then the other at a higher temp. There are 2 speed fans also.

Last night I was going to take the truck for a little cruise. It was warm, sunny, wind had died off, so I uncovered it, got all the loose stuff out of the bed, wouldn't start. Battery was completely drained. I drove around christmas, then again a few weeks ago and had no problems. I used this procedure more or less and found that my starter was drawing about 6-7 amps and the EFI computer has a small draw also.
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Once I charged the battery again it started right up, but I need to either replace the starter or maybe the solenoid because something isn't right there. In the mean time I'm just going to pull a battery cable when it's parked until I fix it. It's another beautiful day though and I need to go for a drive.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:02 AM   #5
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Took me a couple days to read through, but NICE build. I was never a fan of turquiose or aqua trucks, but I really like the color of your truck. I've never seen that shade, and with it being metallic too, I'm sure it's even nicer in person. Your truck is coming together really well. I grew up in MN, I don't think I'd be able to afford to build a truck if I lived that close to a Cabelas.
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:10 AM   #6
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My closest cabelas is 85 miles away. My outdoors recreation is mostly in the driveway anyhow. Thanks for checking out my build. The color is nicer in person and with the sun on it, but I understand not everyone is a fan. We were in Cody last summer and go through there sometimes on our way to Idaho, through Yellowstone. My wife is from there. We took the highway from the NE entrance and through Cody and it was a spectacular drive. Too steep and curvy for most of the big trucks and RV's so there wasn't much traffic. Can't wait to go back through there again. Where you from in Minny?
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:04 AM   #7
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That is a beautiful drive. I make it a point to take the motorcycle through there or Beartooth Pass each summer.

85 miles is close for those of us living in Wyoming. It's a long ways anywhere! I guess you get used to it after a while.

I grew up 30 miles south of Rochester in Chatfield. My dad has a shop there, he rebuilds engines and transmissions. So I guess being a greasemonkey is in my blood. I knew fractions before I knew how to read.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:16 AM   #8
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SE MN is pretty also. Nice valleys and hills, the river bluffs, etc. Good trout fishing I've heard. Welcome to the build.
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:52 PM   #9
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Home for a day and a half, so I started prepping the bed for liner. I had a few loose ends there, like bolts that were not bolted, unground welds, etc. The 2 bed hold down bolts just behind the axle don't have a nut on them, so they are loose. I need to drop the gas tank so I can get my hand in there. Until that happens I figured I would just tack weld the carriage bolt head to the bed. I cleaned up some of the welds with a flapper wheel on the angle grinder. I decided to spray the gas cap with liner also to sort of camoflage it, so I used a wire wheel to scuff it and etch primered it. I used etch primer everywhere else I had some bare metal also. I started taping the edges.

Whats left is to scuff everything that will be sprayed, wipe it all down, mask off the rest of the truck, then spray. Not sure I'll get that far before I have to leave again or not.



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Old 03-19-2012, 10:17 AM   #10
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Grab a big piece of cardboard and do a test spray. How you pull that trigger depends on teh texture you get. Full throttle you can lay it at almost flat. Light trigger you get that fine linex look to it. IT GOES EVERYWHERE ALSO. if you dont have a barrier around you it shoots about 20 feet. ahahah.

I have it on my garage walls in a few places. lol.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:29 PM   #11
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Thanks for the tips. I planned on putting plastic everywhere but might just pull the truck out to the street during the actual spraying. I have some paper coveralls to put over my clothes.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:27 PM   #12
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I sprayed bed liner today and had mixed results. I'd like to blame the product, but the only complaints I have are 1) short pot life of 10-20 minutes and 2) the large container they provide to mix the product in is only good if you don't have any other additives. So in my case with having the rubber crumb to add there wasn't enough room in the container for everything. Having to scramble to grab another bucket or can to mix in and dumping it back and forth to get an even mix ended up in some frustration and kind of a mess. And 3) the primer/adhesion promoter supplied in the kit does not go very far. I barely had enough to spray the sides and tailgate. It's just a small squirt/spray bottle. The tip should be adjusted down to get a finer mist spray. I think next time I'll just use one of my regular spray guns for a better control of the spray.

The main problem I had was that I sprayed it too thick to start with, but changing tips on the sprayer with product in the bowl is a messy job. I ran into the house and grabbed a paint roller with one of those big spongy texture rolls. It actually worked real good for spreading this stuff around where I had it too thick. There was some uneven spreading of the rubber crumb texture though, that I'm not thrilled with.

I ended up running out of product so I did not have enough to do the tailgate or any touch up of spots I missed. Having to buy more doesn't bother me too much because I was going to use it on my jimmy also. Now that I know how far it will go with the thickness I want I know that I'll have to get 2 more kits to have enough to finish this and do the full tub of the jimmy from the firewall floor and back.

One positive was that the color turned out great. And I did get the bed done except for a few areas that will need touch up. If I had it to do over again I would not use the rubber crumb. It just complicated things and sprayed unevenly.

So I'll order some more. I'll mix a quart or so to do the tailgate and spot touch up. Then use the rest for the Jimmy. I really hope this info will help out some other people planning to use this product or others like it.

And now for some pics. First is just after the sanding and masking.


It's fairly heavy here but you can see the top edge needs touched up.


Front edge of the wheel tub needs more spray.


Overall not too bad though...

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Color match looks great! Are you going to add the textured pieces to the next batch also? I'm assuming you'll leave them out on the Jimmy?
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Yeah I had some left over rubber that I'll use to try and even it up some then go over the rest without. I used it on this to camoflage my rust pits. The jimmy won't need that.
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One more thing. I think the regular Als liner kit is fine for a short bed but not enough for a long bed which has about 18 more sqare feet to cover.
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What possesed you to use the crumb??? The liner hides pitting by itself. I forgot to mention the little spray bottle. You literally MIST it on. You dont drench/paint it on.

I wish i was there to give you a hand. lol. The next time you spray it, it will be alot better. The color match on that is DEAD on. What do you put in it to match color? Real paint?
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Old 03-26-2012, 12:59 PM   #17
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What possesed you to use the crumb??? The liner hides pitting by itself. I forgot to mention the little spray bottle. You literally MIST it on. You dont drench/paint it on.

I wish i was there to give you a hand. lol. The next time you spray it, it will be alot better. The color match on that is DEAD on. What do you put in it to match color? Real paint?
I could have used a hand. Why weren't you here?

As for the crumb, it seemed like a good idea at the time. My truck will be used to haul an occassinal load and the bed surface was very rough in many areas. The primer, I was not drenching it. It was spraying a mist, but just not misty enough, if that makes sense. I do learn from my mistakes though. I ordered 2 more kits and will have plenty to do the tailgate and touch up and hopefully enough to do the Jimmy. If not I can always get more and it's really not that expensive ($109 on ebay, free shipping). If I use another full gallon, so be it. Just heavier protection for my bed.

The tint is just that, the tint used in the regular car paint. You can't use a mixed paint to tint it because the binders will either leach out of the liner after its sprayed and make a gooey mess of it OR curdle the liner when you are mixing it and ruin it before it ever gets sprayed. (I emailed Als Liner for this info BTW)

What I did was tell the paint mixer my paint code, we looked it up and needing about 8 oz of tint to color a gallon of bed liner, figured that the amount required for a qt of paint would yield about a cup of tint. He used that formula but just put the tint in an empty can, not in a can with the binders, which is basically the part of the paint liquid that makes up the bulk of the paint. Only cost me about $13.
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That is pretty awesome.

Im getting ready to order some als again. I just bought the wife a 69 VW so i iwll do the inside/ out with als. I think that would be pretty neat with a RED uncoat on the bug. ahahah..

Im learning as much as i can with these VWs. I have the front figured out for lowering and working on the rear now. i have NO idea how to tell what engine size i have. Need a manual or something.
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I had a much better go of it today with the Als Liner. I think having th full gallon mixed up and then having some issues with the gun settings really hrew me off last time. This time I mixed the liner in 1 qt batches. First I did one batch with the crumb for th tailgate and for touching up some spots to even it up some. That went well, then I mixed a qt without the crumb to do the touch up in the corners and areas that were a bit thin. With that done it looks much better.

I still have a couple areas where its too crumbly, and I think I want the bed floor to be a bit thicker, so later this week I think I'm going to mix up another half gallon and just do the floor and front bed panel. I think that will bring it to as good as it's going to get.
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Just got through finishing your build thread. GREAT JOB! Truck looks great.
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Just got through finishing your build thread. GREAT JOB! Truck looks great.
Thank you. Labor of love right?

I got home yesterday from an overnight work trip. After driving 250 miles, I walked the dogs, then got in the truck for more road time. I almost hate the idea of starting work on the exhaust and having it unavailable for joy riding, but I need to keep progressing. So I should get started on that soon.
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Liner's looking really good!
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Thanks for the tip Mike. I haven't played with it yet, been working too much. This morning I ordered a new chrome steel grill, headlight bezels and front bumper from top banana. Got a pretty good deal and a 5% discount using "boards" for a discount code.
http://www.topbananaparts.com/chrome...lle-frame.html

This was the last big parts purchase I had planned for my truck. The only things left I would like to add are a bed cover, stereo, recover the seat, seat belts, maybe a new tilt column. I can live with what I got now and look forward to splurging as money becomes more available.

One more thing. The headlight conversion set up I bought earlier went back to amazon because #1, one had a loose reflector in the lense and #2, the lense was flat and I didn't like the look of it. So I ordered a different set off ebay that are an Autopal brand and were $44 and included the bulbs. Not a projection style, they look more stock. I'll install those with the new grill, bumper, etc.
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I really like the look of the chromed steel grill over the polished aluminum ones...looks better with the bumper....
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Thanks for the tip Mike. I haven't played with it yet, been working too much. This morning I ordered a new chrome steel grill, headlight bezels and front bumper from top banana. Got a pretty good deal and a 5% discount using "boards" for a discount code.
http://www.topbananaparts.com/chrome...lle-frame.html

This was the last big parts purchase I had planned for my truck. The only things left I would like to add are a bed cover, stereo, recover the seat, seat belts, maybe a new tilt column. I can live with what I got now and look forward to splurging as money becomes more available.

One more thing. The headlight conversion set up I bought earlier went back to amazon because #1, one had a loose reflector in the lense and #2, the lense was flat and I didn't like the look of it. So I ordered a different set off ebay that are an Autopal brand and were $44 and included the bulbs. Not a projection style, they look more stock. I'll install those with the new grill, bumper, etc.
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