1976 Square "Simple Green"

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by swampbog

You know me all to well



Is the first hole from battery to frame? Or motor to frame?
I say battery, frame and motor should be all connected as long as you have a good contact free of paint/rust and then protect it from getting corroded it shouldn't make a difference how it's run.

That's how I have it. Just like seeing people different opinions lmao. I have them all tied together. It goes from battery to block and from block to frame. The connecting point is the block. And swamp don't offend me I am rust free lmao.
That made me think today I was under the truck and my 5 yr old said. Daddy we got a problem your tires are dirty lmao. I said it's ok he said daddy we have a major problem I see rust on the frame daddy. I said that's not rust that's dirt. He gets up walks off and is digging in my tool box I said what are you doing he said getting some sandpaper and paint we got to fix that lmao.

[RodsGreen10]

Unlike diceman50 I just ran a ground strap from the mounting stud to the valve cover bolt.
Also I forgot I removed a ground from the firewall to the valve cover that was original to the truck. I used that hole for the clamp that hold my return fuel line. So I added it back like it was originally just moved it up and over a little.

[ray1970]

Ray here.
Air control solenoid on back of body their is the spring loaded shaft.

STD one I can move in and out by hand...
my mean nothing........ find out in time..

Ray.

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.
Air control solenoid on back of body their is the spring loaded shaft.

STD one I can move in and out by hand...
my mean nothing........ find out in time..

Ray.

Confirmation here mine does not move.

[RodsGreen10]

Email from Ken.

Rodney, When you open the throttles it lets in air which leans out the
mixture. It seems to me that you need to take some fuel out at this temp. Im
going to give you over to Jeremy who is the Super go to for this!. Try
pulling some fuel out at cranking temp and see if it works. You may just
need some more air. Also Im sure that you have the throttles set correct but
maybe just a crack of throttle blade opening may help as well with a little
less fuel. I feel like you just need a bit more air and a little less fuel
from what you are describing. With no data it's a blind guess but give it a
try and see if Jeremy can add something to this. He is the man and has tuned
cold start on every corner of this earth!
Please copy him on all of the tech calls or go direct to him, he is the best
you will find and can make changes to code if need be. Im sure its just
adjustment.
Thanks and give it a try

[LostMy65]

Yeah, I got replies to both of my emails today.
They're back in the office catching up on emails.

[Crushkrew]

Originally Posted by RodsGreen10

Email from Ken.

Rodney, When you open the throttles it lets in air which leans out the
mixture. It seems to me that you need to take some fuel out at this temp. Im
going to give you over to Jeremy who is the Super go to for this!. Try
pulling some fuel out at cranking temp and see if it works. You may just
need some more air. Also Im sure that you have the throttles set correct but
maybe just a crack of throttle blade opening may help as well with a little
less fuel. I feel like you just need a bit more air and a little less fuel
from what you are describing. With no data it's a blind guess but give it a
try and see if Jeremy can add something to this. He is the man and has tuned
cold start on every corner of this earth!
Please copy him on all of the tech calls or go direct to him, he is the best
you will find and can make changes to code if need be. Im sure its just
adjustment.
Thanks and give it a try

Man I hope this works...as my unit should ship next week....although i seem to recall that you did the blade adjustment some pages back.... ..and it did get cold here today...70...

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by Crushkrew

Man I hope this works...as my unit should ship next week....although i seem to recall that you did the blade adjustment some pages back.... ..and it did get cold here today...70...

Yep blades adjusted. But with that I originally left everything at default. And still no dice on cold start. The reason I adjusted the fuel up was cause I was told to add fuel. So I did.
I just think it is odd that Ray and I have the same issue with the adders.

[Crushkrew]

Originally Posted by RodsGreen10

Yep blades adjusted. But with that I originally left everything at default. And still no dice on cold start. The reason I adjusted the fuel up was cause I was told to add fuel. So I did.
I just think it is odd that Ray and I have the same issue with the adders.

Yea...freaking me out a little as I ordered the 600 adder...

Let us know if pulling fuel out works...thx for your continued efforts...

[Z10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.

What's behind door NO.1
Not much to see here just a pinched o-ring
I could smell fuel and there was a wet spot that shouldn't have been there.

Door NO.2
The ground wires some people have been wondering about.


Door NO.3
Nothing for that but the day is still early.

Ray.

Aren't those internal grounds?

[ray1970]

Ray here.

Its early and a bit cold 3.5 outside...38 were the car is stored....and still dark...

SO you ask how did it GO?
The motor tried to start but without rolling on the throttle it wasn't going to happen!
The battery is two days old with a over night charge....so that's out...
When it did run it was like having a sticking float or a fully closed chock blade..
The RPMs did not pick up and the room is so full of fumes I had to leave....

You get the idea. So at this time am going to walk away for a while..
After last nights Fitech tech moment (controller) Am taking some cool down time.

Ray..

[ray1970]

Ray Back..

There was a gentleman on a chevelle forum with the same problem..
Going to see if I can find that and see how he made out..

Ray.

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.

Its early and a bit cold 3.5 outside...38 were the car is stored....and still dark...

SO you ask how did it GO?
The motor tried to start but without rolling on the throttle it wasn't going to happen!
The battery is two days old with a over night charge....so that's out...
When it did run it was like having a sticking float or a fully closed chock blade..
The RPMs did not pick up and the room is so full of fumes I had to leave....

You get the idea. So at this time am going to walk away for a while..
After last nights Fitech tech moment (controller) Am taking some cool down time.

Ray..

Ray I feel your frustration man. Same **** here running like that and fumes.

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray Back..

There was a gentleman on a chevelle forum with the same problem..
Going to see if I can find that and see how he made out..

Ray.

Would be interested seeing if he got it resolved.

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by Crushkrew

Yea...freaking me out a little as I ordered the 600 adder...

Let us know if pulling fuel out works...thx for your continued efforts...

If that does not resolve my issue let us know if you have any issues also.

[ray1970]

Ray here.
I have a hard time giving up....

This thing should self learn but maybe its a slow learner? NOS can do that.
On that note am going to start moving numbers around... Nothing to lose..

This is the car and where am working on it...I have a 40-40 shop and a 40-60
show room plus a 26-30 at home with heat and this is were am working on it.
Someone slap me...

Ray.

[RodsGreen10]

You can thank me later lol.

[Low Elco]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.
I have a hard time giving up....

This thing should self learn but maybe its a slow learner? NOS can do that.
On that note am going to start moving numbers around... Nothing to lose..

This is the car and where am working on it...I have a 40-40 shop and a 40-60
show room plus a 26-30 at home with heat and this is were am working on it.
Someone slap me...

Ray.

Yup, sounds about right.

[swampbog]

The reason I'm not doing my FiTech until spring isn't really because I'm waiting for GP to to get his up and running all the way first. It's because I can't fit my Jeep in the garage (height and to much **** in the garage) and I would have to be outside in the elements to do anything to it. Today it's a high of 29, brrr
Be happy you got some cover.

[ray1970]

Ray here.

Going to thank you now in case I die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Ray..

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.

Going to thank you now in case I die of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Ray..

Lol. Ray do you have the fuel settings set to default i.e. 0?

[ray1970]

Ray here.

I do. I have.... Manual changing setting has not changed things much.
I can swap back to the std unit and all this would be over but that's not what I paid for...Something's wrong.

Calling Tech has been a bit stressful...I have not called them on this yet...
I think its TIME...I have had no response on my e-mails....

Have they mailed you back anything that my be helpful????


Hope I don't seam pissy

This really is not My tread so unless I find out something useful am going to sit back for a time...

Ray.

[RodsGreen10]

Originally Posted by ray1970

Ray here.

I do. I have.... Manual changing setting has not changed things much.
I can swap back to the std unit and all this would be over but that's not what I paid for...Something's wrong.

Calling Tech has been a bit stressful...I have not called them on this yet...
I think its TIME...I have had no response on my e-mails....

Have they mailed you back anything that my be helpful????


Hope I don't seam pissy

Ray.

I am pissy about it lol. Only email I got back is what I posted from Ken. I have emailed Jeremy 5 times and no response back. And I agree something is wrong and that's not what I paid for either. I have mine set at default no change in cold start. I add fuel no change on cold start. Default or adding fuel still have to roll on the throttle so it will start.

[LostMy65]

Originally Posted by RodsGreen10

I have mine set at default no change in cold start. I add fuel no change on cold start. Default or adding fuel still have to roll on the throttle so it will start.

.
I think he said you need to lean out some fuel.

[ray1970]

Ray here.


I was going just run and hide from all of this mostly from frustration
and the fact I have more posts in the last week than you and this tread is not about me....On the flip side trying to help someone can help me in the end..

YOUR MY ONLY FREIND This is were I pass out and hit the floor.....

SO what am I doing now?
I have one that work just fine and one not so much!
Going to make all the settings from the bad one the same as the good one.
From my first look they are a lot different...

Let you know how it works..

Ray.