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[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by VWNate1

...Dano , you said oil droplets all over the back of the cab , that's not likely rings as rings woud spew oil & smoke out the exhaust pipe , not from under the cab....

I'm just thinking out loud here , maybe you blew a rear main seal or oil filter plate seal ? .

Hey Nate,
I did have a gigantic gray/blue cloud exhaust as I was comin' down Kellogg Hill (I-10).
I went out this morning and there's no leaking oil from the rear of the engine or the oil filter seal.
Since my "cheap b@st@rd homemade brand" exhaust system ends at the back of the cab, that's the reason everything was cab and bed.
The droplets were vaporlike drops, so I'm pretty sure I was blowin' oil out the exhaust pipes.
Dano

[VWNate1]

O.K. , now I gotcha .

You seem in a big hurry to yank this engine , it's always easier and faster to yank heads & drop the pan , repair as necessary , this is how GM esigned it , to be simple , cheap and fast .

[VDOG]

Originally Posted by VWNate1

O.K. , now I gotcha .

You seem in a big hurry to yank this engine , it's always easier and faster to yank heads & drop the pan , repair as necessary , this is how GM esigned it , to be simple , cheap and fast .

Dano has been having trouble with this engine since the first Legends meet when he was not sure if it was going to start or not. He is probably fed up with it. I know that feeling well.

[hopped up]

How many teeth should the bendix have?
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[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by VDOG

Dano has been having trouble with this engine since the first Legends meet when he was not sure if it was going to start or not. He is probably fed up with it. I know that feeling well.

This engine is cursed, since I got the truck it's been nothin' but heartbreak.
I usually pull the PO motor when I buy a truck, but cash got tight.
I'd like to remove the curse, start fresh, and have confidence in my power plant.
I'm glad I have an engine waiting on deck...

[hopped up]

So after thrashing for 3 days straight alone on the 64 , pulling 2 trannys ,putting a tranny into my truck,3 different starters. I quit! I done for today super frustrated and pissed off. Dont wanna mess up my new flywheel. But after shimminv everg which way and using 3 different starterz witb the same results. I have grinding when i turn the key. I pulled the solenoid on 2 of the starters and shimmed to get proper engagement only to still have the same result. I dont know what im gonna do , not sure how much longer i can borrow the car im using. Ok rant over
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[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by hopped up

So after thrashing for 3 days straight alone on the 64 , pulling 2 trannys ,putting a tranny into my truck,3 different starters. I quit! I done for today super frustrated and pissed off. Dont wanna mess up my new flywheel. But after shimminv everg which way and using 3 different starterz witb the same results. I have grinding when i turn the key. I pulled the solenoid on 2 of the starters and shimmed to get proper engagement only to still have the same result. I dont know what im gonna do , not sure how much longer i can borrow the car im using. Ok rant over
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Are the starters you are trying have offset holes or straight across mounting holes?
Dano

[hopped up]

Didnt even get the chance to see if the tranny i swapped in is good. Hahaha
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[VDOG]

Originally Posted by hopped up

Didnt even get the chance to see if the tranny i swapped in is good. Hahaha
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How did the engine dowel pins look?

I have a starter that came off my 283, that could use a rebuild if you want to try it. Free price.

[Dano69c10]

Some more pics of the Broiler Meet, before we headed for the shade!

[hopped up]

Staggered and i have a 168 tooth flywheel
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[Dano69c10]

I had an old v-8 that when I took a starter that had straight across mounting holes. Everytime I would go to the auto parts store they would tell me that the starter for a v8 with a th350 needed to have the offset mounting holes. I would tell them, that is not what is on there now. One parts clerk did not believe me and told me to bring my old starter in. When I did, he confirmed it was not for a manual tranny set-up and as a matter of fact he could not even find the starter in his picture parts book. He sent me to an old skool starter rebuild place and when the old-timer there saw the starter he said, that's an old-one! (whatever that meant.) He went in the back and came out with a rebuilt starter for me, took my old one as the core. I will take a look in my stash and see if I can find that starter and maybe get a part number or pic of it for you. Maybe your v8 needs one of these types of starter.
Dano

[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by Dano69c10

I had an old v-8 that when I took a starter that had straight across mounting holes. Everytime I would go to the auto parts store they would tell me that the starter for a v8 with a th350 needed to have the offset mounting holes. I would tell them, that is not what is on there now. One parts clerk did not believe me and told me to bring my old starter in. When I did, he confirmed it was not for a manual tranny set-up and as a matter of fact he could not even find the starter in his picture parts book. He sent me to an old skool starter rebuild place and when the old-timer there saw the starter he said, that's an old-one! (whatever that meant.) He went in the back and came out with a rebuilt starter for me, took my old one as the core. I will take a look in my stash and see if I can find that starter and maybe get a part number or pic of it for you. Maybe your v8 needs one of these types of starter.
Dano

That's why I was thinkin if nothing seems to be working, then try the non-staggered kind of starter. Although I think you'll use a different (283) flywheel, ask VDOG.

[hopped up]

Its a 9 tooth starter. I have a 168 tooth flywheel. Dowels looked normal. I may take you up on that offrr vdog.
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[VDOG]

Originally Posted by hopped up

Its a 9 tooth starter. I have a 168 tooth flywheel. Dowels looked normal. I may take you up on that offrr vdog.
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No prob. Let me know.

[hopped up]

Hey vdog could you check how many teeth your starter has. I know mine are 9 tooth. Im wondering if i need to use an 11 tooth starter. Kinda doubt thats the problem but im willing to try something i havent tried
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[VDOG]

Originally Posted by hopped up

Hey vdog could you check how many teeth your starter has. I know mine are 9 tooth. Im wondering if i need to use an 11 tooth starter. Kinda doubt thats the problem but im willing to try something i havent tried
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Hey bro, its a 9 tooth, again, yours if you want it.

[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by VDOG

Hey bro, its a 9 tooth, again, yours if you want it.

Mines looks like VDOG's...

[Dano69c10]

"hopped up",
I found the starter (on my dad's old car). Would you like to try it to see if it will work on your engine? I do need it back, but you can at least see if this is the type of starter you need.
Dano

[hopped up]

Hey dano yeah im willing to try it. Is it staggered bol pattern. I work in jndustry not toj far far from kntario
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[Dano69c10]

Originally Posted by hopped up

Hey dano yeah im willing to try it. Is it staggered bol pattern. I work in jndustry not toj far far from kntario
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Not staggered, but if your block has holes for a non-staggered starter it might work.

[hopped up]

Thanks alot vdog and dano but i have a 168 tooth flywheel and im pretty sure that requires a starter witb the staggered bolts. Someone correct me if im wrong
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[speedkills]

i have an extra th350 flywheel... do you want me to see how many teeth it has? maybe you can match it up to something...

[hopped up]

Hmmm.... I have to check if mg block even hs the holes for the straight across bolts
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[hopped up]

Well been working all morning again on my truck and still no sucess!!! Im pretty frustrated !! Even made a homemade brace for he starter because i really think the starter is moving. We got it to crank a few times pretty good then filled the tranny and when i cranked it grinding again!!!!!! Had my homie come by and help today hes an aircraft mechanic and we both think that its moving we made a brace from some angle iron to try fo see if it helps. But cant get it to crank without grinding i really need my trcuck on the road again!!!!
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