Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed

[RockinKees]

Been busy the last few days getting the last bits of electric parts in.
Only problem I have is with the wipermotor.
I will start a new thread on that in the right Electric Pages elswhere on the board

The waterpipes are all in, motor runs again, I made a small film of the start up, but it was only one second long

I have a longer version of the one Niels made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHM...ature=youtu.be
This was before hell broke loose

Today I put on the rightside fender, now it starting to look like a truck again



Also pulled the doors again to make a nice new hole for the BMW doorlock motors..



This is the rubber grommet I use, it's from a mid '90s Suzuki Alto, works perfect. The first idea what PTC suggested is not going to work with our plastic airlines from the Big Trucks, this because of the radius the door makes when opens. The lines are too hard and then it just bents too much.





Then I have one question for the '58-'59 guys:
Where are all the rubber hoodbumpers go into?
I have two at the cowl, and two at the front/side of the hood, each side one.
I have no more holes to put them in....maybe drill some for the four I have left??

[59chev]

Some of them go on the fender. I think one or two of the holes where the fender bolts to the inner fender is supposed to be used for rubber bumpers instead of bolts.

[RockinKees]

Thanks 59Chev, but also no holes there either.

Came across this pic on FB, now I see where those other four belong

[Kim57]

Looks good.
I like the wire protector on the door.
Kim

[RockinKees]

Originally Posted by Kim57

Looks good.
I like the wire protector on the door.
Kim

Thanks Kim,
I'm happy with the way it turned out!

Put some emblems on today, just for fun



Then I got into the steering rack, I have an oil leak out of the tower.
Put in a new seal, but that didn't solve the leakage.
So I pulled the tower off of the steering rack to take a closer look....









I found out that the tower was already off once in his life...
Probably for the same reason, it is a common item with Jag racks.
Maybe better search for a new part...expensive.

I also ordered a new set of brake calipers, they came in today.
The difference between buying refurbished or DIY refurbish was so close, I don't even thought about doing it myself
That was expensive too, but hey, we're talking brakes and steering, that's a little bit of importance

[Nev68]

I have been told that this is a common problem with the Jag power steering rack (no one told me that before I put one in )

Thanks for the photos, you are moving along nicely.

[RockinKees]

Originally Posted by Nev68

I have been told that this is a common problem with the Jag power steering rack (no one told me that before I put one in )

Thanks for the photos, you are moving along nicely.

Yep, That's what I said
No one told me either....
And no parts being available here, not even through the Jag dealers, so have to shop in the Land Of Jaguar, the UK, they have parts I can use

No on to find the right parts, I found out there are a few different racks used on these cars.....

[Nev68]

Originally Posted by RockinKees

Yep, That's what I said
No one told me either....
And no parts being available here, not even through the Jag dealers, so have to shop in the Land Of Jaguar, the UK, they have parts I can use

No on to find the right parts, I found out there are a few different racks used on these cars.....

I was thinking of rebuiling the whole rack. I haven't found much information on full rebuild though. I bought some jag workshop manuals, not as informative as I would like.
If you find any rebuild info I hope you can share.

[Advanced Design]

I was scrolling down seeing your truck come together...oops, what's that? Gear coming apart...sigh. Hope you can find the parts quickly.

[RockinKees]

Yes, that's why we do a start up before bolting everything together

Was trying to find a complete assembly of the steering pinion, but they are no longer available. Tracked one down in the states...
As there are many different racks used, I mailed a Classic Jaguar dealer in the UK, and see if they will provide me with the correct partsnumbers.
Better safe then sorry

Thanks for checking me out Doug!!

[ptc]

Kees my friend.... it looks like the project is coming together nicely!!!

[RockinKees]

Originally Posted by ptc

Kees my friend.... it looks like the project is coming together nicely!!!

Yes, it does actually.
Today I got the doorlatches in and had the powerlocks working.
I even have back-up switches mounted and working for if the remote stops working (I got no doorkeys)
Hope to get the doors done completely tommorow, with all glass in it too
Lot of work, but hey, you've got to set goals right??

I still haven't got parts for the steeringrack, could be a week or more before that arrives. Problem is that there are different racks used on my donorcar, luckily the partsnumbers and serialplate was intact, so now the big gentleman at Jaguar is searching what should be in it.
We'll wait
Therefor I can't build the complete frontend....just to get at the steeringrack.

I was hoping to get it drivable before the first week of Juli, then I got to drive my little cousin to her graduation. Would be nice

[RockinKees]

Oh forgot something important...

I have asked this at the Electrical Side of the forum, but didn't get any feedback on it.
So I was hoping some of you are genius electricians with wipermotors and switches.

This is what I have done:

Benchtesting according this diagram:



I have two wipermotors, one from a VW Golf II(Rabbit) and one from a '77 VW T2b.
If I turn the switch from 0 to slow, the motor turns, turn off switch, motor goes to Park.
So that's good!

If I switch from slow to fast, the motor turns slower than slow??
Turning from fast to slow, it tuns at his normal slow speed again, which is faster than the high speed. Turn from slow to off, the motor goes to Park.
Both wipermotors do the same thing.
I have had a wiperrelay between the switch and motor, acts the same.
And no, I didn't switch the wires between H and L!!
(only to test if I was wrong....)

Where does it go wrong?
Are both motors bad, I mean have the same issue?? It could be by accident...
Or is the diagram bad??

I have tested the switch, that works okay.
It switches this way:

B>L = Slow speed
B>H = High speed
B>P = goes to Park
All this with about 0,4 internal Ohm resistance, it's ok.

I also got this diagram, I only have no 53e? Or is this the "same" as 31b?
I would say, where the brown wire is, is connection 31??
They use an extra "normal" relay in the ground wire...Probably to get it into the Park position?



This last one I haven't tried yet, because of the 53e connection. Don't know which that is.
So if you have any clues, please throw them at me!!!

OR, if some one have a diagram that I could use???
I'll be delighted

[Kim57]

Things are looking good.
Kim

[reaper71]

Looking really good Kees!!


Mark...

[ptc]

Hi Kees.... electrical....

Why the relay? -- thing only draws like 3-5amp total from low to high speed. These are usually directly wired.

Dont know if thtis is your motor, but Heres a diagram of the terminal points.... maybe what you need?

[RockinKees]

Thanks Kim, Mark and PTC.

PTC, Thanks, but it's not what I need
But I think I got figured it out yesterday. Took a couple of hours though....
Normally you use the upper diagram above, PTC is right, it is just directly wired.
The slow speed and park position worked normal, only when switched to high speed things went wrong. Motor stopped turning.
After measuring current, it looks like when switch from low to high speed, both that terminals stays on 12V? This is measured at the terminals at the wipermotor.

So I thought if I put in a relay to switch to high speed, and cut off the current to the low speed, all must working again...
I tried it and it worked great, on the bench that is....
Monday testing in the truck, draw a diagram for you of what I did and let you know the outcome
That are same days struggling wipermotor wiring

After this is working alright, I can finally finish the dash, connect the heater and finish further inside.
Things are going fast now

[RockinKees]

Last week went not as we wanted to.

First the wipers, they won't coorperate at all, so I went the easy way for now.
Slow and high speed, and off where he likes
I can live with that.

Next, steering rack.....
Got the new parts in and put all new rings and seals where neccesary.
But, with this English build High Performance Parts, still leaking.

I did get the new PFTE rings nicely around the steering tower and resized them as needed:





Didn't work out.
Now on the hunt for another steering rack.

Yesterday and today I went on and put the front end together.





Today all electrics in and see if it works the way it should....



That was good news!!
All worked as intended

Next on the list is the inside, benchseat in and see where the brackets for the seatbelts have to come.
Further with insulation, some other small things.
And get it on it's wheels and set the rideheight

Then the fun begins

I'm crawling towards "The End" of this episode.
Then it's a lot of small things, get all the bugs out and really have fun with it!!
Finally

[Kim57]

Looking good.
You're getting closer.
Kim

[Advanced Design]

Too bad the gear repair didn't work and hopefully it isn't too difficult to find another Kees.

Truck is looking very good...driving soon!

[YahamaR1]

Looks really good Kees,
Nice looking truck you got...

[ptc]

Kees, it looks GREAT man!!!! ---- glad to see youre getting on the road with your truck.

Congrats to a fine job! -- I wish you were here in US to do my pinstriping!

[stevespg]

kees, did you use any jag shims on the front springs?

i have xjs springs which seem to have a good spring rate, but just a little too high

[RockinKees]

Thanks Kim, Doug and YamahaR1!

I found out that there is another ring in the steering tower that can be the cause of the leaking.
So I give it a try again....
If that doesn't work out, Well, I have to spend some....

I'll let you know.

Nev68, I also can't find any info on reconditioning Jag steering racks, but I'm one step closer to understand this expensive part. It has an o-ring at the torsionbar, which I never knew it has one, that can cause the leak and throw oil out of the top.....

[RockinKees]

This morning I took the steering tower apart, again..
And I found my problem real quick

To be honest, it's my own fault...
I drilled a hole in the tower where the column mounts, because I use different u-joints.
NEVER drill a hole there!!!!
At the top is an o-ring inside at the torsionbar, this was damaged by the drilling and caused the leak.
So now I have the search an other steeringrack, (probably have found one already) and hope that one is sealed.

Again, never drill where the u-joint is bolted on!!



Luckily I have the original joint, maybe I can modify that to the column or u-joint.

When I couldn't go further with the steering, I put the dash together, that's finished now.



Only have to ty up the powerlock unit.

Then time for seatbelts, put in the benchseat and seatbelts. I have to think a way to mount the rollmechanism and the lower pieces of the belts to the floor, and where.
That's the next thing I'm going to do while waiting for the rack & pinion.



I've got two 3-point belts and one lapbelt in the middle, better safe then sorry!