Daverods project 66

[daverod]

Put my rubber door seals on and got my mat in. Don't know what I'm going to do about the peal and seal? Thing runs super. Sounds great, not to loud untill you get on. So much for the paint on the headers. I have my timing set at 4?

[Strodder]

Looks good Dave

[ruffrida2005]

that's how I was going to run mine. You wont be able to lay it on the frame in the front because of the crossmember, But that's the way to go, or make your own brackets.

[daverod]

So when I let all the air out the crossmember would sit on the ground? Do you think I would have to change the steering set up? I guess this is as low as you go with aired out cross member on the ground.

[ruffrida2005]

you wont have to mess with the steering. This is mine without drop spindles and a small notch in the rear. Gives you an Idea.

[daverod]

Sweet, I was worried about the steering. My truck has a lot of body roll.I thinking I need to put a sway bar on the front, maybe new shocks? I have a sway bar off a 71 sub. I going to see if it will work. Maybe something to do today. Is that the truck with the rusted roof? It looks good from here. I don't think I would ever buy a truck that's been painted. You just never know.

[Strodder]

Dave it will go as low in the front as the frame is where it touches to bump stops. Measure from the ground to the lowest part of the frame where the bump stops were. Then with the springs installed subtract the space between where the bump stop was and what would hit it. I hope that didn't sound too confusing. I wish I can draw you a picture.

I wouldn't install a sway bar at all. If you install the front and rear air bag controls independently and not connected to each other, like front and rear controls on 2 switches. If you have each bag adjustable you don't need a sway bar. Example is when the truck leans to the right the air in that bag will gain more pressure. If the air line is connected to the left bag along with the right bag, and controlled with 1 switch, when the pressure gains in the right bag it will transfer the pressure to the left bag. Causing it to lean. When the pressure stays in each bag it will keep it from leaning to that side. Are you really confused now.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Strodder

Dave it will go as low in the front as the frame is where it touches to bump stops. Measure from the ground to the lowest part of the frame where the bump stops were. Then with the springs installed subtract the space between where the bump stop was and what would hit it. I hope that didn't sound too confusing. I wish I can draw you a picture.

I wouldn't install a sway bar at all. If you install the front and rear air bag controls independently and not connected to each other, like front and rear controls on 2 switches. If you have each bag adjustable you don't need a sway bar. Example is when the truck leans to the right the air in that bag will gain more pressure. If the air line is connected to the left bag along with the right bag, and controlled with 1 switch, when the pressure gains in the right bag it will transfer the pressure to the left bag. Causing it to lean. When the pressure stays in each bag it will keep it from leaning to that side. Are you really confused now.

Independent air control will definitely prevent the pressure transfer lean. A sway bar is a very good upgrade as well. All modern vehicles have sway bars now for a reason (they work).

[daverod]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to put the sway bar on. On my 64 (Work/Driver) I'm thinking about bags with no compressor for now. I want the front lower and I thought that would be a good way/ cheap way to do it. I'm going to cut some more off my spring today just to see what it does. I want more of the stink bug look. Right now it's just about level. On my 66 I will do the level control thing for sure.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Independent air control will definitely prevent the pressure transfer lean. A sway bar is a very good upgrade as well. All modern vehicles have sway bars now for a reason (they work).

Yeah I'm not saying sway bar aren't good. But if you have the independent air bag set up you don't need them at all. My 56 Belair handled really good with hardly any lean. Besides if you want to play with the air bags like going side to side, and other stuff you can't with sway bars.

I got it this low without notching the frame or dropped spindles.

[bubba327]

When we finish what we started here, then we will talk buying about a new project. Congratulations on driving your truck. Just starting mine is a rush, Driving it will come soon.

[daverod]

I'm loving mine. It's a buzz saw. Figured out my springs were'nt in right. Had to turn them alittle. After I did that no more noise and it sits even lower. I wish I lived in Boise. Congrats on your truck. I just want to buy the truck for a furture project. Thats ok is'nt it. It won't really be a project.

[ruffrida2005]

That's the truck witht he jacked up roof. I really need to take a wire brush to the seam sealer and see what's really going on. Wont be for a little while. I haven't been able to work on the truck. I'm building my son's a moster swing set.

Now get back to work.

[daverod]

I hate stuff like that. Stuff with instructions and parts with numbers and stuff. I always make my wife put that stuff together, or at least read it and tell me what to do. Good luck with it. What size of air tank do I need?

[ruffrida2005]

Oh it's nothing that is bought. were builing it ourselves.

The air tank size depends on if you wanna play or if you just wanna go up and down when you get in and out. My truck just had a 3 gal tank at first in that pic. Only front and back. I'm going to run a 8 Gal now, 8 valves and I wanna play a little at first. A 5 gal is a good all around tank. Remember you need to check the rateing on the compressor to see what size tank they will fill. Most Viars are rated for a 5 Gal. That's why I'm running 2.

[daverod]

Sweet ,now I know. I can live with building stuff as long as there's no instructions. I love it even better when the instructions are in like 12 different languages. A picture is ok as long as it's in English..

[daverod]

Parts fairy dropped off some new u bolts. They were larger then the old ones. Had to drill new holes, what a pain did'nt wait to spend 20 on a new bit. Gott my arms and tires mounted. Can't figure out why it won't go all the way to the ground. In think my upper arms are hitting the frame and stopping it from moving down? If I stand on the front it will go all the way.??

[ruffrida2005]

You have to notch out at the top of the spring cup so the upper arm will go lower.

[daverod]

I don't get it? I'll have go look. I was just looking at my tires compaired to my 64 they are huge.

[daverod]

Looks like they notched it to get access to the bags. Good idea I'll do it. Still don't see why my frame is'nt on the ground. I guess with my engine in there it will be. Just has me worried. My arms look really close to the frame. they touch it. I was thinking they were bindiing. Nice link good info thanks Paul

[ruffrida2005]

http://c10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4257

[ruffrida2005]

did you see it before I posted the pic and the link. Just cut a whole it in. everyones doing it. It's all the rage.

[ruffrida2005]

You dont need to access the bag from there. Go take a look at it and I bet your arms are hitting right here. Look and a bunch of other pics of bagged trucks and you'll see the same.

[daverod]

I don't know? the upper arms are'nt even close to the part that is notched in the pictures. They move in the other direction. Are you popping pain meds like smarties again.
#17 From the linky.
"They are cut out for access to the top of the bag. It looks as though he welded in the upper bag plate instead of bolting it on. When you do that the only way to access the top of the bag is to cut an access hole. IMO even if you bolt that plate on, it is a good idea to cut an access hole to make it easier to swap the bag out."

[protrash64]

Could be balljoint bind or the cross shafts binding up a little. On my burb they were tight but the BBC should push 'em down no problem.

Lookin' really cool daverod ........