Got some new wheels: Boss 338's in 20x10 and 20x8.5

[mrhino]

Originally Posted by 69C-owner

I wont be buying the wheels or brakes for a long while so if I can buy a certain brand of brakes I'll save the money up and have my eye on what I need, if I'm wrong correct me but it looks like you've done your conversion with stock replacement parts, I plan on puttin 5 years of work into my truck at least so if i drive around on stock steel wheels for the next 7 years thats no big deal to me lol

No rotors that I know of. Yes all mine stuff is stock replacements, that can be had at any parts store.

While your driving around on your stockers for the next 5-7 years saving money for brakes that will work, just save a little more for wheels that will bolt on with out any modification.

[piecesparts]

Originally Posted by mcbassin

Frank,
I trust you know what rotors you have. I wonder which revision of wheels you have? Mine were made early last year, I think around Jan.-Feb.? I would like to know what is different about yours? I'm thinking about getting another set, the gray center this time. It would be cool if they would just bolt on.

I purchased these wheels and tires used from a guy that had them on a 92 Chevy SWB for $800.00. The business in my local area that sold them originally told me that they sold them about a year ago to the original owner. As I said, we put the front wheel on and actually tightened it up to the hub W/O a spacer to see what would happen. It seated flat and did not appear to have interference, other than the center cap on the wheel pushing out. I am going to the garage later this weekend to go through this one more time and see if there is something that I missed. Presently there is one front and one rear wheel mounted on the truck with the wheels torqued to spec. I also have a thin spacer on the front 18 X 8 wheel. The only interference issue, as far as I could tell, was the plastic tangs on the wheel's cap extending down and hitting the dust cap flange on the front hub.

[bguild]

I am thinking of getting these wheels soon but I was curious about the tires.. I found a set of 275/45/20XL here locally that a friend has that are take offs. They are cheap and my truck isnt a daily driver so I dont see me putting a ton of miles on them anyway. would these fit well and would you go 20x8.5 x 4 or do the staggered 20x8.5 and 20x10 rears? Any help would be appreciated.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by piecesparts

We do not have the 1" front hubs. They are the 1.25 brakes and believe me, the wheel fits right onto the hub and seats up against the flat surface that the bolts are mounted. The deal that we noted was the dust cap on the center hob pushed the center cap on the wheel out about 3/16". We did not have to force it, in any way shape or form. This whole discussion kind of confuses me, so far. Been turning wrenches for a few years, too. Need to go look some more.

Then you're inexplicably lucky. I also have the 1.25" front rotors and with both the original and new stock replacement hubs and brand-new Rev 3 wheels they don't come close to seating -- about 1/4" between the wheel and the hub when inserted as far as it will go. Don't know how the new style of center cap will work as I've not yet turned down the hub surface to fit the wheels, but I expect they'll be fine because they don't have the tabs that stick in so far like the previous versions of the 338.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by mrhino

While your driving around on your stockers for the next 5-7 years saving money for brakes that will work, just save a little more for wheels that will bolt on with out any modification.

x2

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by bguild

I am thinking of getting these wheels soon but I was curious about the tires.. I found a set of 275/45/20XL here locally that a friend has that are take offs. They are cheap and my truck isnt a daily driver so I dont see me putting a ton of miles on them anyway. would these fit well and would you go 20x8.5 x 4 or do the staggered 20x8.5 and 20x10 rears? Any help would be appreciated.

Read all of this thread.
They don't fit worth a crap.
What width rotors do you have?
The rear will need a spacer with it's 6.225" backspace on the 10's.
The 8.5's on the rear would look worse and would also need a spacer.
Save your money and buy a wheel that fits.

[mcbassin]

Keith,
930 replies and 101,790 Hits and your out on them? Come on man......Save your money and buy a wheel that fits? No guts no glory? Just messing with you man. I know how you are about "correct" fitment and I would have to agree. If you want your Back spacing and track width to be right save your $$$ and buy exactly what you want.
If you don't mind spacers, spacers and machining to fit this isn't your wheels. Oh yeah, I had to grind my spindle shafts off about 3/8" too.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by mcbassin

Keith,
930 replies and 101,790 Hits and your out on them? Come on man......Save your money and buy a wheel that fits? No guts no glory? Just messing with you man. I know how you are about "correct" fitment and I would have to agree. If you want your Back spacing and track width to be right save your $$$ and buy exactly what you want.
If you don't mind spacers, spacers and machining to fit this isn't your wheels. Oh yeah, I had to grind my spindle shafts off about 3/8" too.

Ha.
Yeah I'm out on them.
I started this thread.
I own a set that have tires mounted.
I also have a set of 1" spacers for the rear 20x10's.
I will eventually put them on one of my trucks.

Boss/AE wheels had a chance to fix their screw up,... and they couldn't even pull that off.
Too much trouble for the the average guy wanting to bolt on a set of wheels.

Heck,... all the info is in this thread.
Most don't want to read the thread,... they want to bust out their wallets and buy wheels.
I can't imagine all the trouble the local tire dealers have trying to sell these wheels.

Wheels "make or break" a truck.
Save your money and buy Coys,... if you want an affordable wheel.

Even the Eagle 225's have the wrong backspace in their 20x8.5's.
They got it right with the 8.5" 338's and a 5-1/4" BS.
But then they build the 8.5" 225's with 4.5" BS.

Where are these people getting their numbers?
(All of this is my opinion)

[mcbassin]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Ha.
Yeah I'm out on them.
I started this thread.
I own a set that have tires mounted.
I also have a set of 1" spacers for the rear 20x10's.
I will eventually put them on one of my trucks.

Boss/AE wheels had a chance to fix their screw up,... and they couldn't even pull that off.
Too much trouble for the the average guy wanting to bolt on a set of wheels.

Heck,... all the info is in this thread.
Most don't want to read the thread,... they want to bust out their wallets and buy wheels.
I can't imagine all the trouble the local tire dealers have trying to sell these wheels.

Wheels "make or break" a truck.
Save your money and buy Coys,... if you want an affordable wheel.

Even the Eagle 225's have the wrong backspace in their 20x8.5's.
They got it right with the 8.5" 338's and a 5-1/4" BS.
But then they build the 8.5" 225's with 4.5" BS.

Where are these people getting their numbers?
(All of this is my opinion)

Dumb question, but do the 338's look right on the 88 up chevys they market them for? I don't know that I've seen any? BTW, Coys were my first choice and I may just go that route next time. They can ship them to you with tires installed.

[fast 95]

Originally Posted by mcbassin

Dumb question, but do the 338's look right on the 88 up chevys they market them for? I don't know that I've seen any? BTW, Coys were my first choice and I may just go that route next time. They can ship them to you with tires installed.

I have followed this thread from the beginning, bought 2 20x8.5's and waited 6 months or so to get the 20x10 rears. I love these wheels, i do have a 7/32 nds spacer on the front and trimmed the tabs on the center cap for the fronts, the rears fit my rear end just fine. Of course this is on a 95 though. I was flipping through one of the many truck mags i get and came to a section covering a show and on the 2 pages of pics, i counted 3 trucks with this exact wheel. What i'm getting at is, they are a very hot wheel, fit or not! The supply and demand factor is through the roof, American made wheel, looks killer, and priced right. I will deal with the small spacer that i need to get them to fit. Of course this is just my 2 cents as stated before. Here are some pics of mine.

YouTube - C1500 Supercharged

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by fast 95

I have followed this thread from the beginning, bought 2 20x8.5's and waited 6 months or so to get the 20x10 rears. I love these wheels, i do have a 7/32 nds spacer on the front and trimmed the tabs on the center cap for the fronts, the rears fit my rear end just fine. Of course this is on a 95 though. I was flipping through one of the many truck mags i get and came to a section covering a show and on the 2 pages of pics, i counted 3 trucks with this exact wheel. What i'm getting at is, they are a very hot wheel, fit or not! The supply and demand factor is through the roof, American made wheel, looks killer, and priced right. I will deal with the small spacer that i need to get them to fit. Of course this is just my 2 cents as stated before.

So I guess they're not a direct bolt on to the 88-98 trucks either,...

[mcbassin]

Originally Posted by lolife99

So I guess they're not a direct bolt on to the 88-98 trucks either,...

That's what I was thinking too.

Your truck looks great by the way!

[brossow]

Originally Posted by lolife99

So I guess they're not a direct bolt on to the 88-98 trucks either,...

That was the old revision. That's why they made the changes they did in Rev 3.

[fast 95]

See below.

[fast 95]

Originally Posted by lolife99

So I guess they're not a direct bolt on to the 88-98 trucks either,...

Nope.
Mine are the very fist version that came out.

[brossow]

FWIW, AEWC just updated their blog entry about the 338s this morning. They deleted all of the complaints about fitment on the 338s (which really irritates me) but they did say this:

American eagle has taken into consideration all of the comments that had been posted. we are now working on some changes that we feel will help our customers overcome some of the clearance issues they have been having. I will update you as soon as I hear what changes are being made.

I pray no one ends up holding his breath because of this announcement, but at least they know there are still problems and want to do something about it. Me, I suggested they look at different backspacing to fit our trucks as a true bolt-on option. Others may wish to chime in as well. I've already got mine and am stuck with the issues (which I'm more than prepared to deal with) but more constructive and polite feedback from others might not hurt.

[85/05Silverado]

hey everone im looking at at set of the 338's in black 18's for mt 85 shortbox now i was wondering if anyone has these brake/spindle kits on their trucks with these wheels

http://grunionfabrication.com/front-...e8p906ksdf49i1

[CheyenneShop]

I am pretty sure C10seconds has them - He may only be running them in the rear though? Good Luck.

[nlped]

I have them front and rear on my '76 2wd Blazer and the first generation Boss 338's fit without ANY issue! This was the easiest and simplest way to make these wheels fit. I needed spindles anyway, and my brakes were worn completely out and needed replacing and after doing the math...it was the route to go. It stops like a champ, and other than the paint and body work that still needs attention... I love the ole Blazer.

I say, Go For It!!!

btw... I have the front and rear kits

[85/05Silverado]

thanks nlped do you have any head on pictures of the front, do they tuck inside the fender without any problems? the blazer looks good with that set up

[HarrolLS1]

Reply to my email to Boss Motorsports(Feb 4,2011):

From: Boss Motor Sports <bossmotorsports@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: www.bossmotorsports.com Contact Request
Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 4:58 PM

"We never take customer feed back lightly. So many things have to take place before a part can be modified and we never lost sight of this important modification for those on the 67-72 forum and many others. We are very familiar with this forum and others.

We thought that we had made a correction that would work for all of the trucks yet it fell flat on the 67-72's. Our goal was to include these in the fix.

Strange I get this email today as I have just finalized the modifications for the 20 and 18 inch parts. the drawings for the tooling are finished and the metal to make the tooling is ordered. It will be here for us to cut in about a week or so. From there we will go into production and we hope after all of the time and helpful feed back from our customers the issue will be resolved.

We do care very much and I wish we moved a bit faster but the fact is we do listen and we have made the modifications per our customers requests.

Thank you and I hope that we can keep you and others as customers in the future.

Please never stop making suggestions as truly, they do not fall on def ears."

[brossow]

Originally Posted by HarrolLS1

Reply to my email to Boss Motorsports(Feb 4,2011):

[snip]

Any indication if they're changing the backspacing for '67-72 trucks?

[HarrolLS1]

Ha.. funny you asked, I thought of that as an afterthought...Not sure it will be the fix we want... ie: more lip.


Subject: Re: www.bossmotorsports.com Contact Request

"Hello,
Also is there any chance for an additional back space option for the 338's like 5.5"?"

Re: www.bossmotorsports.com Contact Request


" yes we added back pad to the wheel to help move it out ."

[lolife99]

More pad on the back will reduce the backspacing,... but it won't add more lip.
Kinda like sticking a 1" wheels spacer to the back of the wheel.

[CheyenneShop]

Does anyone know if the CPP 13" work like the McGaughy's? I believe they too are a two piece application?

Thanks