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If anyone is interested, we could have a monthly meet up at our shop in San Bernardino
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I think a lot of guys would be up for a monthly meeting. Although I am down here in San Diego I could not make many of them but it would be nice to meet some more guys. The tacos are a plus too. LOL
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Mike I dont everybody is going to make all of them, but it should be a nice turn out from time to time. So come down when you can.
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Anybody know of a community college in OC or Long Beach that offers night classes in auto body repair?
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Let's set this up. It's a new month.
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Thanks vwnate. Id pretty much given up on my motor. But maybe (im hoping youre right) that i can still fix my problem. I really dont want to swap my motor. Im just at my whitts end!! Been fighting aith thos for over a year
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I know how frustrating it is because I always get these weird problems when I buy abandoned projects then I have to figger out what the hell's going on (I'm currently buried in a $1,200 '91 Camry 4 door that whizzed right on past $4,500 in parts and isn't done yet.....)
Anyways , you've been offered free starters from several here and what I'd do is : remove the torque converter cover plate and gut the starter of brushes and solenoid , mount it to the engine and pull the plunger with a bungie cord etc. then hand rotate the engine and visually inspect the depth or the tooth mesh ~ I feel it has to be in there somehow , be aware this is just a " S.W.A.G. " but that's the 1st, thing I'd do as a good running engine , to me , is priceless and always worth saving . Maybe it's the flex plate , maybe the crankshaft is bent ? . I dunno 'til it's looked at . FWIW , we once had a bramd new '81 C-60 with a 4 bolt 350 , when Chevy machined the bare block new , the center of the main bearing saddles was 0.010" OFF (wow) - yet it started and ran , it vibrated pretty badly but I don't recall any starter troubles , it just beat itself to death in 10,000 miles . My point is : someone had to take the time to really LOOK at it to figure out what the hell was wrong , I worked in a Major Fleet Repair Shop and they were all too (insert pejorative here) to be bothered taking the time.... This is why I always counsel most DIY'ers to JUST DO IT ! because you're interested and have the time , you'll usually do a better job . 'K ? . Don't give up ! .
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Its juat soo strange that itll start perfectly fine a few times then start grinding all over again
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I sure have never experienced anything like this ever
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As it didn't do it while I was there , I don't know .
In general , grinding instead of meshing and cranking the engine , is caused by worn ring gear teeth on the flywheel (torque converter in your case) , the teeth usually get worn because 99 % of the time , the engine always comes to rest in the same position . The simple Dealer fix is to loosen the flywheel bolts & rotate the flywheel one set of bolt holes , in the direction the engine turns ~ this means the engine now comes to rest with the least worn ring gear teeth aligned with the starter . Of course , not always is it possible to do this as some applications have asymetrical bolt holes..... This is why I feel your pain and wish I could get hands on it . By assembling a no drag starter & hand turning the engine while observing it , you'll hopefully see what/where/if there's a meshing problem . If the starter bendix's teeth touch the bottom of the flywheel's teeth grooves , it'll never work ~ this is why there are shims *but* , you cannot just jamb a couple in willy-nilly , you have to figure out what's what first . Me ? I rather enjoy playing " Automotive Detiective " .
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Vwnate im on my second flywheel this year already and it still does the exact same thing . I swapped it the second time thinking it was the cause of the grinding which it wasnt
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Are you using the bracket that holds the end of the starter motor?
I had a truck doing the same thing till I located a bracket and installed it.
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I wonder what's going on . I found two in my local P-A-P yesterday whilst doing my P.T. and was thinking about your starter issues .
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Kevs classic , no i dont have that bracket. Its pretty hard to find kne i the junkyard around here. At least i havent had any luck. I made a bracket to keep the starter from moving sideways , but that disnt help
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Well id be willing to buy one of ya if you have a spare
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I don't have any spare starters and I don't think you should simply swap 'em out ~ try testing like I explained before ~ YOU are the On Site Mechanic Detective .
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Or let me knowl what pick a part you were at and ill go on sat to see if theyre still there
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I meant the starter brackets
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Maybe we can get a couple of us together to help out with this problem. Sometimes another brain or another pair of eyes can solve the problem. I think those of us who can make it, should bring any starters/parts and flywheels so we can do a mockup and then the right parts can be ordered. I firmly believe in Nate's mantra about doing some detective work. I'm willing to crawl under the truck and help out.
Just my $0.02 Dano
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Of course I will help. I can bring the starter I have also.
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