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Re: LIL ERV the 50
yes, these were cut offs from a furniture maker. instead of trash they made a bed for there work truck and now it's big part of there business. plus the wood was only $149.00 cut,milled,sanded, and it's all oak, how could i pass that up?
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A arms look great.
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Sh!t.... LOL I was going to use a 79 C10 IFS but decided on an s10 swap instead because of the track width. I never even thought about narrowing the control arms like that. Great job. I would not be surprised if we start seeing more of the C10 IFS swaps now. I don't know if you are a member of the H.A.M.B but I bet they would appreciate a little write up on what you did over there.
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thanks, the saddle swap was not that hard to do, plus i only paid $60 for it at the bone yard.
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Thanks for posting the control arm mod. I need to narrow the lowers on my 73 and was thinking of using tubular arms, but this looks like a very good option.
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Ok, so I've gotta ask if that narrowing of the A arms will change the suspension geometry?
On one hand it seems like it would HAVE to. And that could be a bad thing. On the other, I'm thinking the attachment points are unchanged, the arc the A arms swing through as the springs compress/extend is unchanged...well, except for the distance from the pivot points...hmmmm? If the fabricator is extra careful to make the modifications EXACTLY alike - and I'm sure you did - very nice looking mod by the way. Anyone extra knowledgeable about suspension geometry able to provide some insight?
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OK, first off I'm no suspension expert but just the same I'll through some ideas out there. This is just a guess at the numbers here so bear with me. Lets say you have 600 lbs. springs on the front and lets also say the distance between the pivot points (A arm mounting and spindle mounting) is 14". With the spring (which can be seen as a pivot point in a basic lever) in the center of this distance. If a 600 lbs spring is compressed 1.5" it has a load of 900 lbs. acting on it. So if a normal load compresses the spring 1.5" and this equals 3 " change at the tire then reducing distance on one side of the lever will change the balance point of the lever (the spring) from a ratio of 1:1 to a ratio of .714:1 so now it will take 1260 lbs of force acting on the tire to compress that spring 1.5". Because your truck still weighs the same it will rise by .85" this in turn change the alignment for sure. I'm thinking you may need to cut the coils by 3/4 of a coil each to maintain the same ride height and you will still get a stiffer ride. Of course all this is based on my guesses on measurements.
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Sorry double post
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I wouldn't look that deep into the springs. If your ride height is good, odds are its going to be fine. Especially with the c10 drop springs, they probably have a higher compression rate than stocks anyway. Bringing the Aarms in I think would stiffen it up a tiny bit and "may" make it rise a little if any. Cuttin coils is an option if you want it lower, which I'm always in favor of. Best way to know is if he measured something before and after to reference height.
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the ride height is less than 1/2'' higher now than before the mod. and the coils are 3" drop already.
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I'm loving what you did so far.
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Soon, this winter has been the worst in many years, too cold in garage even with insulation and heat. (so much for global warming). I just sold my motorcycle so now I have more than enough $$$ to finish the truck and be on the road hopefully this summer! I"ll keep posting along the way.
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So i put my 2 favorite rides together a 50 chevy and a 1954 buick. I put the portholes in the hood today, Now i'll send then off to be plated.
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two nice rides of course. I dig portholes. looking good.
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thanks it was a fun job.
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Portholes....How'd you install them? New term and feature I haven't heard of.
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Install was easy, first i chose a spacing on the hood, then made a template out of cardboard. taped the template to hood then with my trusty sharpi marker traced out the template on both sides. then i used a 1-1/2" hole saw and cut out each corner, warning use a sharp pilot drill! this will leave a small center section that i removed with a die grinder. then it was remove a small amount at a time testing the fit. all 6 took maybe 1.5 hrs.
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That's a slick mod.
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Just about finished my exhaust up and over the IRS, Installed the new gas pedal and modified the front fender support rods, shortened them 4'' and cut new threads, then bent the firewall support ends to work on the flat fire wall.
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Fixed the dash radio knob holes, po cut the holes for some after market radio, So i went and purchased 2 fender washers, tried to bend them to the shape of the dash then cut out all the ugly and welded in the washers. just tacked for now but new radio fits just fine.
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Curious why you decided to lose the Corvette seats after figuring out the arm rests, mounts etc? I DO agree the Silverado seats have a fatter, squatter look more in keeping with the rounder general shape of the AD trucks. Do you plan to design a center console afterall? Will there be an under dash valance for AC or anything?
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Curious why you decided to lose the Corvette seats after figuring out the arm rests, mounts etc? I DO agree the Silverado seats have a fatter, squatter look more in keeping with the rounder general shape of the AD trucks. Do you plan to design a center console afterall? Will there be an under dash valance for AC or anything?[/QUOTE]
The Corvette seats, If you look at post 108 you can see the head rest is way up in the back window. It really shows from the outside. I'm still not sure what i'll use for seats yet. Been to the junk yard a week or so ago and found some black Audi seats really sweet. Center console. That depends on the seats, Vette seats are narrow lots of room. Silverado seats much fatter so no console. Valance for A/C. No, I have an under dash ac unit that i'm going with.
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New seats going in today, Corvette C4 frames off flee-bay, there dirt cheap now. purchased new foam at 50% off. I made up simple seat risers out of 3"x1 1/2"x 18" x 1/8" tube. Will weld the tabs on the inside so you cannot see them. I will weld an X brace between them for support.
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Looking good!
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