Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**

[jorgensensc]

So another dumb question. Do the 18 x 8.5 come in 8.5", or 8" width. On the price sheet it says 8.5", but on the spec sheet it says 8"?
I'm a loser. I'm only looking for the 18's not the 20's.
Shawn

[brossow]

Originally Posted by lolife99

The truck I photographed had 20x8.5's on all four corners. He had a spacer on the back.

Ah. I was confused because you said this: "Anyway,... they are 20x10 (6.250" bs) and 20x8.5 (5.250" bs) with the ever popular 5x5 bolt pattern." I thought you were referring to the truck shown, not the rims you ordered. Guess I could have seen that had it occurred to me to look at the width of the chrome lip.

Originally Posted by lolife99

I haven't mounted my wheels on a truck yet. My 69 is still 6-lug. I plan to run spacers,... I always have.
I think without them they will contact the wheel tubs.(especially with the 67-70 rearend). My blazer has the wider 71-72 rearend and I have a 5.5" bs wheel on it,... and it is close on the inside. No room for another .725" of backspace.

Okay, so obviously it can be done with spacers, which will cost people about $60. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you've written, but you've really seemed to be badmouthing the 20x10 option when a cheap solution is not only possible but is in fact what you intend to use. Yes, it's obviously something people should consider when looking at these rims, but I think you've managed to scare away several people over what amounts to a minor issue that's easily resolved. (No offense; that's just how it comes across.)

[brossow]

Originally Posted by jorgensensc

So another dumb question. Do the 18 x 8.5 come in 8.5", or 8" width. On the price sheet it says 8.5", but on the spec sheet it says 8"?
I'm a loser. I'm only looking for the 18's not the 20's.
Shawn

Should say 8" -- my cut-n-paste error. All fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up!

[Boyd]

Ordered mine, staggered set of 20's - spacers don't scare me.

[Wildstreak]

Its morning now and well Im still tired lol. but I have a clear thought now. how would much would shipping to canada cost? Im really interested, I was just about to buy c5's but these are looking very inviting. Im not scared of the spacer either, lots of people use them lol

[lolife99]

[/I]

Originally Posted by brossow

Ah. I was confused because you said this: "Anyway,... they are 20x10 (6.250" bs) and 20x8.5 (5.250" bs) with the ever popular 5x5 bolt pattern." I thought you were referring to the truck shown, not the rims you ordered. Guess I could have seen that had it occurred to me to look at the width of the chrome lip.




Okay, so obviously it can be done with spacers, which will cost people about $60. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you've written, but you've really seemed to be badmouthing the 20x10 option when a cheap solution is not only possible but is in fact what you intend to use. Yes, it's obviously something people should consider when looking at these rims, but I think you've managed to scare away several people over what amounts to a minor issue that's easily resolved. (No offense; that's just how it comes across.)

No offense taken.
If people are scared to run spacers,... that's their option.
I just don't think people understand or realize what a 6.225" bs means.

I just want everyone to know what they are getting.
I would never run anything other than 8.5's up front and 10's in the rear with these 338 wheels. I always planned to run spacers on the rear.
I also switched to 1" rotors up front because I didn't want to use a spacer up front. (the 5.25" BS on the 8.5's is just barely enough for my liking)

My biggest pet peeve with wheels is the wrong backspace.
In my opinion,... the wheels have to fit the truck.
The offsets have to be different due to the wider track width of the front suspension. (or the rear wheels need to be wider)
Again,... this is just my opinion.

I'll get out of this thread.
I seem to be doing more harm than good.

SCOTI posted alot of good info about running the 20x10's with this 6.225" BS,... and no one seemed to be listening. So I chimed in with the spacer comment.
SCOTI's quote:
My 68 w/the stock 68 12-bolt could use 5-5.50" back-spacing. I installed 5.50"BS wheels that required mini-tubbing the bed floor. Add an additional .725" & it would only be worse. The use of a wider 71-72 rear might work better here but I'm not sure how much clearance would be there.....

The 5.50"BS was about the max I could use on my 74 (w/stock 74 12-bolt). Again, any more back-spacing would require mini-tubbing. There might be a slight chance they'd fit but it would be close.

The easy solution for everyone running a 15x8 ralley wheel, is to go out and see if you have another 2-3/16" or 2-1/4" of room between the inside edge of the wheel and the wheel tub. If you do fine. They will work.
(Just be sure to measure both sides of the truck,... because they are usually different)

[Wildstreak]

I know what bs is need 5-5.5 but would the larger backspace give it a larger lip? just curious

[72mistressc10]

Originally Posted by lolife99

My biggest pet peeve with wheels is the wrong backspace.
In my opinion,... the wheels have to fit the truck.
The offsets have to be different due to the wider track width of the front suspension. (or the rear wheels need to be wider)
Again,... this is just my opinion.

I value your opinion...
So in other words this is the reason why one "shouldn't", in your opinion, run 20x8.5 all the way around, unless the individual is planning on running a spacer in the rear, correct?
20x10 will fit in the rear for my truck, I was just thinking of the rotating purposes for the 20x8.5 all the way around, but if it won't look right, then I would rather go with staggered.

Thanks for all the info, lolife that includes you

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by brossow

Here's a direct link to Benji's post, which shows the 20x10s on the rear of his '72 without any apparent spacers....

Keep in mind, that truck is a 72 which has the wider (by approx .750 each side) rear 12-bolt. That would explain why they fit w/o spacers/adapters vs. the shorter housing from a 6x-70.

Originally Posted by Wildstreak

I know what bs is need 5-5.5 but would the larger backspace give it a larger lip? just curious

Opposite.... more back spacing within the same width of a wheel means less 'lip' on the outside. Less BS = more lip.

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10

So in other words this is the reason why one "shouldn't", in your opinion, run 20x8.5 all the way around, unless the individual is planning on running a spacer in the rear, correct?
20x10 will fit in the rear for my truck, I was just thinking of the rotating purposes for the 20x8.5 all the way around, but if it won't look right, then I would rather go with staggered.

I like staggered sizing front to rear. I've never owned a vehicle w/the same width F/R thus have never rotated tires. If you don't mind the same size 8.5" front & rear, they should work w/o spacers. The 20x10's appear to work for the rear of 71-72's w/o issue looking @ the pic of Benji's truck (nice truck @ that).

[k5hart]

Just to jump in and hopefully not cause more problems or sound offensive. I think, as it was said, these wheels were designed more for the 88-98 trucks which is why they work well on them as is. Remember, the track width is different for different years of trucks even among the same body styles.

That being said, the key to getting something that works for you is.....MEASURE YOUR TRUCK. No one knows what you have but you.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by k5hart

No one knows what you have but you.

And sometimes not even that.

[Leviticus]

Ha, this is getting good, I think I'll just sit back and drink my coffee and watch the backspace drama continue

My 20x10's will be here tomorrow, and the new re-tooled 20x8.5's the following day. I'll let you guys know if the 20x10's stuff in my rear ok.

And I have a 72, so I will be no help to the 67-70 guys.

[Sublvr72]

Originally Posted by 72gmcshorty

Excuse my ignorance...why would someone order different backspacing between the front and back? Can someone give me a quick and simple explanation of what backspacing is? Is it to do with how close the lip of wheel gets to the fender? Would either of these wheels fit with a stock 72 2wd rear end?

People like to go staggered to get the widest possible tire on the back of their RWD car/truck to get increased traction and looks.


Here's a simple image that goes over wheel fitment



Q: How do I measure backspace?
A: The easiest way to measure backspace is to lay the wheel face down onto the ground so the backside of the wheel is facing up. Take a straight edge and lay it diagonally across the inboard flange of the wheel. Take a tape measure and measure the distance from where the straight edge contacts the inboard flange to the hub-mounting pad of the wheel. This measurement is backspace. The following photo shows three wheels with 2", 3", & 4" backspace.





and here's a good link with plenty of wheel measurement info

http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?article=40

[Sublvr72]

Originally Posted by Wildstreak

Its morning now and well Im still tired lol. but I have a clear thought now. how would much would shipping to canada cost? Im really interested, I was just about to buy c5's but these are looking very inviting. Im not scared of the spacer either, lots of people use them lol

no idea on postage to Canada, but if you are interested in a set I can find out for you. Just need your Province, city, and postal code

[NORCAL SS]

i will be ordering a rim from summitracing to make sure the rears fit and then returning it. I want to test fit the 20x10 rear to see if i can fit a 305 40 20 on the rear of my dads 95 silverado. once thats set and checked i will be ordering them from this link.

[Wildstreak]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Opposite.... more back spacing within the same width of a wheel means less 'lip' on the outside. Less BS = more lip.

ah now I see, Ill wait for Leviticus to get his to make my final decision. sorry you answered at the same time I was responding. Ill send you my info through pm.

[Wildstreak]

whens the deadline for this deal to? I wouldnt want to miss it

[TyKby2]

Just went and looked at the prices and I think I can't afford to wait to sell my other set of wheels. I guess I'll sell them to buy tires.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by Wildstreak

whens the deadline for this deal to? I wouldnt want to miss it

(See Sublvr72's answer below.)

[Sublvr72]

Originally Posted by Wildstreak

whens the deadline for this deal to? I wouldnt want to miss it

I'm collecting orders this week, and I will place them with american eagle by friday.

Future orders are possible, just need to collect a few before I go down there to have them shipped.

[Sublvr72]

attn all!

18x8 and 18x9.5 chrome are in stock and ready to ship!

[justincat]

cool, im in as soon as the 20 by 10 and 20 by 8.5s come in on the chrome. I understand you have to run a spacer on the back. Do you have to run 1" rotors in the front or can you run 1 1/4 rotors on a 67?

[k5hart]

Are the 18's in grey available yet?

[Sublvr72]

18" grey are available in both 18x8 and 18x9.5

[DrtyJack75]

Wow, Im more confused now.. haha

I have a 67, pwr disk brake conversion and 5 lug axles from ECE.

I do NOT have bags as of right now, but I DO WANT THEM SOON!

Will these fit? Im not that scared of spacers/adaptors...but will these work on a 67 if it's bagged (or going to be)???

Im sorry...my trucks in storage and away in (military) training so Im unable to go out and measure my truck right now.

THANKS!!