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djracer · 12-12-2004, 02:10 PM

Scoti
Any speakers that fire directly at each other have horrible lowend and imaging! If you have ever heard 6X9's in 82 to 92 camaros or s10 blazers you'll see what I'm talking about! I would definatly fire them towards the driver!

5150 · 12-12-2004, 02:13 PM

ChevyDude,

I'm talking about Factory kickpanels, or will I have to buy the ones you bought AND fine a thin speaker

5150 · 12-12-2004, 02:17 PM

How about this one ChevyDude-

MSRP U.S. $ $229.95 pair
Power Handling, RMS 55 Watts
Power Handling, Peak 165 Watts
Sensitivity 90dB
Frequency Response (Â±3dB) 55Hz - 23kHz
Mounting Depth 1-15/16"
Impedance 4 Ohms

chevydog66 · 12-12-2004, 02:34 PM

Who is going to try the Qforms like 70c10 just posted? I would like to know if there are any modifications when using the Q forms on a 67-72 truck? If anyone buys a set of these please share the mod and install info with the rest of us.

ChevyDude · 12-12-2004, 02:55 PM

Yellow69...I'm not sure I know about Factory kick panel speaker panels???The speaks in your post would probably work with the everyday kick panel from any of the vendors...but just for comparison the 6.5" Infinity Kappa Power handling is 100W RMS and 400W Peak

5150 · 12-12-2004, 04:30 PM

Hey ChevyDude- Are you talking about this bad boy?

MSRP U.S. $ 549.95 pair
Power Handling, RMS 100 Watts
Power Handling, Peak 400 Watts
Frequency Response (Â±3dB) 75Hz - 23kHz
Sensitivity 90dB
Impedance 4 Ohms
Crossover Frequency(ies) 3.5kHz, 24dB/oct
Mounting Depth 2-3/4" Perfect Mid-woofer, 1" Perfect tweeter

ChevyDude · 12-12-2004, 04:36 PM

Yes, That's the set I have for my front.

5150 · 12-12-2004, 04:42 PM

Did you pay $550 for those?

ChevyDude · 12-12-2004, 05:27 PM

Nope...more like 2 bills + the shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

5150 · 12-12-2004, 07:38 PM

My friend works at Harman International and they make the JBL and Infinity's there. He can get a pair of them for $72.89 for me if I want them. Tons of stuff on there dirt cheap-amps, subs, speakers.

cornutz · 12-12-2004, 10:06 PM

Hey yellow, spread the love around man, I would LOVE a pair of those infinities for 73 US!!! Can you get some of us here a deal like that? Maybe we could get a group purchase on those???? What says you?

Thanks,

NutZ

Gary · 12-12-2004, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornutz

Hey yellow, spread the love around man, I would LOVE a pair of those infinities for 73 US!!! Can you get some of us here a deal like that? Maybe we could get a group purchase on those???? What says you?

Thanks,

NutZ

Hmm yeah me too me too! I'm going strong for quality over quantity when I put the system in my truck I'm shooting for 200-300 watts of crystal clear rather than 2000 watts of raw power like in my other car (it's clear but not that clear ya know).

GreyHoundSteve · 12-13-2004, 10:57 AM

My original interior design had speaker pods for the door panels and kickpanels but after i saw the finished door panels i thought they looked kind of odd in there so i added a map pocket behind them to balance out the look but i still didnt like them so i am having the door panels redone without speakers and going with them in just the kickpanels and rear behind the seat. IMO speakers just dont look right in these doors.

ChevyDude · 12-13-2004, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow69

My friend works at Harman International and they make the JBL and Infinity's there. He can get a pair of them for $72.89 for me if I want them. Tons of stuff on there dirt cheap-amps, subs, speakers.

Yellow 69......with that kind of price I want another set for my other truck. Can you get a group purchase going for the board??? I will make the kick panels to house them!!!

greasemonkey · 12-13-2004, 05:40 PM

Count me in if there is going to be a group purchase.

5150 · 12-14-2004, 11:59 AM

I'll check with my friend, but I'm pretty sure he can't buy a bunch. It would probably look a little strang unless he owned the scooby doo van and was setting up a system.

ChevyDude · 12-14-2004, 12:07 PM

You check it out on that purchase for $72 and change.

Molds ARE being assembled for the kick panel install. Plan is to have the hole for the 6.5" speak and a flat spot where the 1" tweet can be drilled out if you have a component system.

XXL · 12-14-2004, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyHoundSteve

There is a direct relation to magnet size and quality.

This statement isn't the least bit accurate. Magnet size (along with its material composition) are but one factor in determining flux density within the voice coil gap. The vc gap is but one factor in determining the motor efficiency of the driver. Motor efficience is but one factor in "sound quality" of a speaker.

GreyHoundSteve · 12-14-2004, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL

This statement isn't the least bit accurate. Magnet size (along with its material composition) are but one factor in determining flux density within the voice coil gap. The vc gap is but one factor in determining the motor efficiency of the driver. Motor efficience is but one factor in "sound quality" of a speaker.

True enough but to a novice this isnt a bad rule to follow. Its like saying that the larger the cid the more hp a motor will have. Now this isnt the least bit accurate either but to someone who knows NOTHING about motors its not a bad generalization. Following me? If not then go to best buy or any other typical speaker retailer. Ask them to line up the speakers in order of quality and see how many smaller magnet speakers are out of order ..... maybe 1 out of 10 sets and they are probably the ones that retail for TWICE what any of other set do. Now if we are talking high end ..... yeah that generaliztion goes out the window but if your going to spend $500+ on a pair on components then you should probably know a little more about speakers than the average Joe or at least find someone who does and ask them.

4x4Poet · 12-16-2004, 04:50 AM

This "novice" thinks his intelligence has been insulted since he had earlier posted that better magnet material composition can make an inferior sized magnet composed of high quality material serve a speaker as well as a superior sized magnet of a lesser quality material, all things being equal otherwise.

Just blowin' smoke.

ChevyDude · 12-16-2004, 11:55 AM

Update...I've had some trouble building a mold out of wood sticks and am going to see if I can use clay to build the mold...I am still working on this.

70 shorty · 12-16-2004, 01:51 PM

Yeah, 383, I was gonna say, that's an interesting gas tank you got behind that seat. That must be for that extra special racing fuel!

muddpile · 12-16-2004, 01:56 PM

Once I pick my truck up (sunday) I'll start work on a pair of kicks myself. Maybe if a few of us get working on this we can come up with some sort of design that will work without too much modification. I have JL Audio VR 6.5" sitting in a box in my closet, and they are fairly beefy, so if I can make them fit others should not be a problem.

ChevyDude · 12-16-2004, 03:20 PM

That is the same situation I have...If I can make my 6.5" Infinity's work, should cover everyone elses speaks.

greasemonkey · 12-16-2004, 03:36 PM

Definitely post pics Chevydude, I'm going to make some myself once I find a good set of components locally.

12-12-2004, 02:10 PM	#76
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,891	Scoti Any speakers that fire directly at each other have horrible lowend and imaging! If you have ever heard 6X9's in 82 to 92 camaros or s10 blazers you'll see what I'm talking about! I would definatly fire them towards the driver! __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

12-12-2004, 02:13 PM	#77
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	ChevyDude, I'm talking about Factory kickpanels, or will I have to buy the ones you bought AND fine a thin speaker __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-12-2004, 02:17 PM	#78
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	How about this one ChevyDude- MSRP U.S. $ $229.95 pair Power Handling, RMS 55 Watts Power Handling, Peak 165 Watts Sensitivity 90dB Frequency Response (Â±3dB) 55Hz - 23kHz Mounting Depth 1-15/16" Impedance 4 Ohms Attached Images __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-12-2004, 02:34 PM	#79
chevydog66 GM ONLY BABY!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Wayne, IN. Posts: 1,998	Who is going to try the Qforms like 70c10 just posted? I would like to know if there are any modifications when using the Q forms on a 67-72 truck? If anyone buys a set of these please share the mod and install info with the rest of us. __________________ 2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do. 66 Chevelle Malibu 406ci, 573hp, 10.99@121mph 96 Chevy Silverado Z71 72 GMC 1500 Super Custom LS 6.0/4L65 on airride http://www.cardomain.com/ride/707879...mc-c-k-pick-up

12-12-2004, 02:55 PM	#80
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Yellow69...I'm not sure I know about Factory kick panel speaker panels???The speaks in your post would probably work with the everyday kick panel from any of the vendors...but just for comparison the 6.5" Infinity Kappa Power handling is 100W RMS and 400W Peak __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4 Last edited by ChevyDude; 12-12-2004 at 03:10 PM.

12-12-2004, 04:30 PM	#81
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Hey ChevyDude- Are you talking about this bad boy? MSRP U.S. $ 549.95 pair Power Handling, RMS 100 Watts Power Handling, Peak 400 Watts Frequency Response (Â±3dB) 75Hz - 23kHz Sensitivity 90dB Impedance 4 Ohms Crossover Frequency(ies) 3.5kHz, 24dB/oct Mounting Depth 2-3/4" Perfect Mid-woofer, 1" Perfect tweeter Attached Images __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-12-2004, 04:36 PM	#82
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Yes, That's the set I have for my front. __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4

12-12-2004, 04:42 PM	#83
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Did you pay $550 for those? __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-12-2004, 05:27 PM	#84
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Nope...more like 2 bills + the shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4

12-12-2004, 07:38 PM	#85
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	My friend works at Harman International and they make the JBL and Infinity's there. He can get a pair of them for $72.89 for me if I want them. Tons of stuff on there dirt cheap-amps, subs, speakers. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-12-2004, 10:06 PM	#86
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Hey yellow, spread the love around man, I would LOVE a pair of those infinities for 73 US!!! Can you get some of us here a deal like that? Maybe we could get a group purchase on those???? What says you? Thanks, NutZ

12-13-2004, 10:57 AM	#88
GreyHoundSteve Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: DFW TX Posts: 769	My original interior design had speaker pods for the door panels and kickpanels but after i saw the finished door panels i thought they looked kind of odd in there so i added a map pocket behind them to balance out the look but i still didnt like them so i am having the door panels redone without speakers and going with them in just the kickpanels and rear behind the seat. IMO speakers just dont look right in these doors.

12-13-2004, 05:40 PM	#90
greasemonkey Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pace, FL Posts: 2,155	Count me in if there is going to be a group purchase. __________________ 1942 Master Deluxe 1969 C/10 1985 Blazer CUCV 1987 Jimmy 2004 Tahoe 2005 Silverado 1500 2005 Silverado 3500

12-14-2004, 11:59 AM	#91
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	I'll check with my friend, but I'm pretty sure he can't buy a bunch. It would probably look a little strang unless he owned the scooby doo van and was setting up a system. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

12-14-2004, 12:07 PM	#92
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	You check it out on that purchase for $72 and change. Molds ARE being assembled for the kick panel install. Plan is to have the hole for the 6.5" speak and a flat spot where the 1" tweet can be drilled out if you have a component system. __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4



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12-16-2004, 04:50 AM	#95
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	This "novice" thinks his intelligence has been insulted since he had earlier posted that better magnet material composition can make an inferior sized magnet composed of high quality material serve a speaker as well as a superior sized magnet of a lesser quality material, all things being equal otherwise. Just blowin' smoke. __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

12-16-2004, 11:55 AM	#96
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Update...I've had some trouble building a mold out of wood sticks and am going to see if I can use clay to build the mold...I am still working on this. __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4

12-16-2004, 01:51 PM	#97
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12-16-2004, 01:56 PM	#98
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Once I pick my truck up (sunday) I'll start work on a pair of kicks myself. Maybe if a few of us get working on this we can come up with some sort of design that will work without too much modification. I have JL Audio VR 6.5" sitting in a box in my closet, and they are fairly beefy, so if I can make them fit others should not be a problem.

12-16-2004, 03:20 PM	#99
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	That is the same situation I have...If I can make my 6.5" Infinity's work, should cover everyone elses speaks. __________________ Alex 1971 Lil' Red 350 SBC 700R4

12-16-2004, 03:36 PM	#100
greasemonkey Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pace, FL Posts: 2,155	Definitely post pics Chevydude, I'm going to make some myself once I find a good set of components locally. __________________ 1942 Master Deluxe 1969 C/10 1985 Blazer CUCV 1987 Jimmy 2004 Tahoe 2005 Silverado 1500 2005 Silverado 3500

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