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Not a bad nut after all..
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Were you able to swap your core supports without removing the front fenders?
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Have you tried XL parts? These guys have everything. Well the one here does.
http://www.xlparts.com/Home.aspx
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
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I did have to remove the fenderwell bolts under one of the fenders. I didn't have to remove the fender or the fenderwell, but removing the bolts allowed me to splay the front edge of the fender out an inch or so which allowed the old core to slip out and the new one to slip in. I also didn't mess with the cooling system. I just unbolted the radiator and carefully set it on the frame, hoses still hooked up, while I was doing the swap. I did it all by myself and it wasn't much of a challenge. Just be careful with not hitting the radiator with the core support when you're wrestling it in and out. Quote:
The reason I steered away from collecting the parts for an original grille is that GM has discontinued all of it, and to assemble one I'd need the grille, the two face plates with moldings, and the bow tie emblem. That's a lot of stuff to scrounge up, so I just hit the buy-it-now button on the billet grille for 61 dollars. Next up is to swap the bellhousing and give the transmission anything it needs while it's out. Then on to lowering the truck and doing something about the wheels and tires. The paint being screwed up on the front of the truck is starting to dig at me a bit too now. That will need addressing. Last edited by Tx Firefighter; 01-13-2013 at 07:50 AM. |
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Had to make a run to town today. After driving it to town and back, I am feeling that something has got to give. 4.56 gears and non overdrive is not ideal for my usage. I was in high gear well under 30 miles per hour. I have an extra, very nice, complete 14 bolt cab and chassis 4.10 rearend under my workbench. I could put into it, but I might even be feeling 3.73s more than that. I hate to go to too much trouble and expense to swap from 4.56 to 4.10 and it still not be enough change. I need to do the math I guess to figure out my revs.
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
I got 410s in my 79 c30.... and its screaming at 55-60. I feel the only way to make one of these traffic friendly is to stick a nv4500 or 4l80 trans.
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Great truck, and I love reading about your attention to detail.
Also, thanks for showing what you have done, it will come in handy during my current resto/mod. My input on the gears: I have a different set up(350/Turbo 400/4:10 gears/265/75/16 tires). I'm turning 3000 RPM at 65MPH. I know it is an Apple to Tangerine comparison, but at least it gives you something to compare to as you contemplate your gear selection. |
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
I really enjoy following your work. It is great stuff, very similar to what i am trying to do, but i struggle on the cosmetic details.
I am using the below link to check engine rpm with different gear ratios or hoping i will find an NV4500 for a good price. I find it easier than running the numbers by hand each time. http://www.bgsoflex.com/rpmmph.html
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Sent you a PM about the 14 bolt...
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Great build Kevin, one of my favorites...keep the info coming!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Definitely go to the 3.73's!
Those 4.10 still scream,... unless you drive 55 mph everywhere you go.
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
4.10s really work well with the NV. if that is even an idea you are considering, i would do that. if not, you probably will be best off with 3.73s. if you will be pulling trailers much at all, i would really consider the NV route with 4.10s
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
I appreciate the nice comments from all of you fellas.
As far as the NV4500 thing goes. I'm not leaning that way simply due to the cost. The NV4500 is in such demand lately that the prices are being held pretty high. I could do gears for significantly cheaper than the OD swap. Plus, the SM465 that I have now is my favorite transmission. Can't anyone say they aren't strong and reliable. I suspect I'll wind up dragging the 4.10 rearend out from under the workbench and tune it up. I could do that pretty cheaply and it would certainly help drop my revs at cruising speed. |
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Slow progress here lately. My wife drug me to Mexico for some stupid sit on the beach crap. After I finally got that horsesh1t out of the way, I could come home and work on trucks again.
Today I started to get the bellhousing ready to install. Of course, it started off like all of them, greasy and nasty. That took a bit of scrubbing to get it clean. ![]() The Advance Adapter bracket interferes with the threaded bung where the factory linkage pivot ball screws in to. I had to grind that back some to get the clearance for the bolt holes to line up. ![]() Then to glass bead blast it and powdercoat. I used this neat powder that makes it look like freshly blasted aluminum, which is quite handy for old stained aluminum castings. ![]() Close up of where I had to grind and sand to get the clearance for the AA bracket. ![]() Then to double check all of the bolt holes with a tap and screw the pivot ball into place with loctite. New grade 8 bolts for the trans and bell housing mounting too. ![]() Last edited by Tx Firefighter; 01-21-2013 at 07:54 PM. |
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Great work! I love the attention to detail!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Wow, looks like new!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
My truck has 3:73 gears and with 4,500lbs on the back it'll idle along at 1600 doing 80MPH.
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Nice work! I like your attention to detail. Powdercoating looks awesome!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Short update for today. I spent most of the day powdercoating some wheels for a fellow who is building a neat 53 Ford F100. Since I had the gun loaded with gloss black and the shop was already dirty, I decided to work a little personal project into the workflow.
The bellhousing came with a clutch lever which I'm hoping to use when I swap the bellhousing. But, it needed some real help before I'd be ready to use it. Notice the giant grooves worn into the ears there.... ![]() ![]() The grooves were worn so deep that the ears had bent under the pressure since the material was ground so thin. ![]() First step is to straighten the bent ears. Out comes the Crescent wrench and the bench vice. ![]() Then weld up the worn areas and sand smooth with a flap wheel. Now, remember I said I already had the gun loaded with black powder ? An extra part hanging in the oven never hurt anything so... ![]() ![]() One more part ready to go. One piece at a time. Hopefully when the time comes, I'll have all my ducks in a row. I'm kind of dragging my feet on the bellhousing R&R. I'm going to do a lot of interior work at the same time (reason why will become obvious when I get to that point) so I have a lot of stuff to round up and decisions to make. |
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
thats such a nice thing the advance adapter bracket !
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Your powder work is better than the "pro" shops around here. Awsome job!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
I appreciate the comment Karl. I put my work up against anyone, but I just hate being a business man so I prefer to just not do much of it.
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
That all looks great. At least you got the "RIGHT" side of that Honda Trail bike the "RIGHT" school!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Those parts look fantastic... job well done!
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Re: The Hillbilly Deluxe dually build
Wow, that looks awesome! I have an old Honda Passport scooter I should bring up there for powder coating. It's got sort of a patina look going on right now.
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