'67 Short Step #2

[kyull67]

I took advantage of some bad weather and stayed home to tear out the rocker panels and remove the fenders. The inner rockers turned out to be in alot better shape than I thought they would. Here's some more pics.

[smbrouss70]

Man you lucked out on those inner rockers. Floors look good too, or is that an illusion?

Forgive me if this has been mentioned somewhere, but I've looked for your tire size and can't find it anywhere in your thread.

[kyull67]

Here's the drivers side. Tires are 235/55/R17 on 17x8 wheels.
The floors are pretty solid, I'll only need to make a few patch panels there.

[19673ontree]

THAT IS LOOKING GOOD !!!!!!!!!
and I would like to say also that I like your method of building the truck , that is the only way to build an older vehicle , what I am refering to is how that you are removing all the old paint and gunk !!!!
lot's of guy's try to just paint and primer over all the old stuff , but I found out a long time ago it's better to go to the metal then build it back up , if you use any type of good quality primer over your bare metal it make's a lot better job later , good loking work and also from the pic's that is good truck to work with ,,,, can't wait till you get it done ,,, Brad

[kyull67]

Thanks Brad!
I hope to have it finished in about 3 months, so I've got some work to do. I've already accomplished in seven months what it took me two years to do the first time!

[kyull67]

I had a few hours to work on the truck today.
Check out my hidden CD player. The CD player folds down and out when ejecting and will open the radio delete plate door on its own with the touch of the remote. I would show you but I don't want to bother with taking it back out before paint. Then I cut out the rusty passenger side kickpanel and made some patches. It doesn't look good but they will be covered in speakers and upholstery anyway.

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by kyull67

The CD player folds down and out when ejecting and will open the radio delete plate door on its own with the touch of the remote.

That kicks A$$

[kyull67]

Thanks! I'm hoping to surprise some people when they ask where I keep my CD player.

[ChaseDale3and8]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

That kicks A$$

Man I have to totally agree! It will look like you don't have anything for a sound system when it's really hidden behind the radio delete! VERY SLICK!!! ...Joe

[BurnoutNova]

agreed, that the best place ive seen a rodio hidden yet... right where its supposed to be!

[kyull67]

This morning I finished replacing the rusted out passenger side kick panel and then repaired the innner rocker. The divers side isn't nearly as bad and should only take maybe an hour to fix and then I'll be putting in new rockers.

[kyull67]

Time for my weekly five picture update. I've finished repairing both driver and passenger side inner rockers, floors, and kick panels. Now I need to order my rockers and cab corners and I should be spreading body filler by the time it gets warm in a couple of weeks. The kick panels kind of look like ass but they will get seam sealer, upholstery, and speakers so I'm not too worried about it. Does anyone have any recommendations for a vendor for my rockers and other parts? I usually use Manes but I don't live close to them anymore.

I can't wait to finish this thing, I go to college at MSU so I've decided to do sober driver once or twice a week with it to keep some of the drunkards off the streets.

[ChaseDale3and8]

Are you going to coat those rusty areas with some POR 15 before you put your new rockers and replacement panels in? You wouldn't have to worry about rust again and it would be a great time to do it. ...Joe

[kyull67]

Yeah, I'll definately do something there. I just sprayed on some primer that I had lying around so the bare metal wouldn't start to rust before I could get to it.

[lyrikz]

Originally Posted by ChaseDale3and8

Are you going to coat those rusty areas with some POR 15 before you put your new rockers and replacement panels in? You wouldn't have to worry about rust again and it would be a great time to do it. ...Joe

Just a little note. Por15 wont do **** for those areas. The stuff they sell WITH the por15 is actually what turns the rust into another material, THEN after you have treated the metal with their spray on nasty chemical, you clean it with water, yes water, dry it, and coat it with por 15.... If you just slap por15 on there, it wont work...FYI.

Cool build though.

[ChaseDale3and8]

Originally Posted by lyrikz

Just a little note. Por15 wont do **** for those areas. The stuff they sell WITH the por15 is actually what turns the rust into another material, THEN after you have treated the metal with their spray on nasty chemical, you clean it with water, yes water, dry it, and coat it with por 15.... If you just slap por15 on there, it wont work...FYI.

Cool build though.

Well that's a good thing to know for future reference. I had been told that the POR 15 would keep rust from re-forming and coming back once the area had been covered with it. I learn new things on here all the time. And it really is a cool build. Can't wait to see the cab all done and painted to match the bed. It's going to be a really nice looking truck when it's done. ....Joe

[lyrikz]

Originally Posted by ChaseDale3and8

Well that's a good thing to know for future reference. I had been told that the POR 15 would keep rust from re-forming and coming back once the area had been covered with it. I learn new things on here all the time. And it really is a cool build. Can't wait to see the cab all done and painted to match the bed. It's going to be a really nice looking truck when it's done. ....Joe

Ya, they sell this chemical that you spray on the rust for 15 minutes or so, it changes the actual rust into another material.. Clean and then coat with por 15..... If you use it any other way, it is just like putting a lid on something, it will protect it, but wont stop it from continuing to grow underneath.. That make any sense?

[ChaseDale3and8]

Originally Posted by lyrikz

Ya, they sell this chemical that you spray on the rust for 15 minutes or so, it changes the actual rust into another material.. Clean and then coat with por 15..... If you use it any other way, it is just like putting a lid on something, it will protect it, but wont stop it from continuing to grow underneath.. That make any sense?

Actually that does make sense. I was told and had thought that the POR 15 was supposed to be air and water tight once applied, which in theory would stop rust from reforming and growing, since air and moisture have to be present for rust to grow.

I was told it has to be topcoated because it isn't UV resistant. As far as I had known, UV rays were the only thing that would keep it from doing it's job. I assume that this other chemical must be some sort of acid especially since it has to be rinsed off with water.

Anyway, I have been told that the POR 15 is an awesome product when used according to the directions. That's why I asked if he was going to use it on this truck. He's doing a lot of work to make it really nice, and as much surface rust as it has I sure don't want to see him have any problems come back later since it's going to be such a sweet ride when he's done.

I have bought some POR 15 for my truck, and hadn't heard about this other chemical. I need to do a little bit of research on it and see how it works before I try to use the POR 15 that I have on my truck. Thanks for the heads up on the other chemical. ...Joe

[lyrikz]

Originally Posted by ChaseDale3and8

Actually that does make sense. I was told and had thought that the POR 15 was supposed to be air and water tight once applied, which in theory would stop rust from reforming and growing, since air and moisture have to be present for rust to grow.

I was told it has to be topcoated because it isn't UV resistant. As far as I had known, UV rays were the only thing that would keep it from doing it's job. I assume that this other chemical must be some sort of acid especially since it has to be rinsed off with water.

Anyway, I have been told that the POR 15 is an awesome product when used according to the directions. That's why I asked if he was going to use it on this truck. He's doing a lot of work to make it really nice, and as much surface rust as it has I sure don't want to see him have any problems come back later since it's going to be such a sweet ride when he's done.

I have bought some POR 15 for my truck, and hadn't heard about this other chemical. I need to do a little bit of research on it and see how it works before I try to use the POR 15 that I have on my truck. Thanks for the heads up on the other chemical. ...Joe

THey have 3 steps, check their site.
Step 1 = Marine clean.. Its basically a degreaser to get oil and junk off.
Step 2 = Metal ready.. Thats what changes the composition of the rust.
Step 3 = Por 15.

I like it so far, i just dont like the part of spraying it with water. Most people have their truck apart in their garage.. Not like they can move it outside to wash parts of their bare metal down with water ya know.

[kyull67]

I've been putting alot of time into this thing lately so I can get it done by May. Over the last few days I've removed the windshield, repaired the rotten dash, and I started fixing the rust in the top corner of the roof. Pictures explain better, so I'll let them do the talking.

[kyull67]

Here's the rest for now. I've still got some grinding to do on the welds.

[Richard8971]

Nice patch work. My drip rails were rusted so badly that I had to remove them completely. I am glad I didn't have rust on my dash top like you have. Not fun to fix, but it will be worth it in the end. Can't wait to see more progress pics!

Don

[my67chevytruck]

truck is coming along great.. I would use rust Bullet (its one step, compared to POR 15's 3-step) or you could go to a automotive paint stop and buy a bottle of "rust Killer" , a spray bottle of a special chemical that coats, stops, oxidizes, and seals the rust allowing you to primer or paint over it. I ordered my bottle and will pick it up Saturday.

[kyull67]

Originally Posted by Richard8971

Nice patch work. My drip rails were rusted so badly that I had to remove them completely. I am glad I didn't have rust on my dash top like you have. Not fun to fix, but it will be worth it in the end. Can't wait to see more progress pics!

Don

Thanks. I should be spreading filler by next week and hopefully have it primed soon.

Originally Posted by my67chevytruck

truck is coming along great.. I would use rust Bullet (its one step, compared to POR 15's 3-step) or you could go to a automotive paint stop and buy a bottle of "rust Killer" , a spray bottle of a special chemical that coats, stops, oxidizes, and seals the rust allowing you to primer or paint over it. I ordered my bottle and will pick it up Saturday.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to check on that stuff.

[hotrod 80]

Looks good . I'm working on the same spots on my truck .