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California gold 68 · 01-05-2009, 02:41 AM

Dan, I hope my build turns out half as nice as yours. Keep up the effort!

tommypic · 01-05-2009, 07:25 AM

WOW what a build . I just wish mine was that far a long . swapping parts and frt suspension is a PITA when going from old to new . going to watch this build

Rack Man · 01-07-2009, 12:23 AM

Thanks guys for all the compliments....Helps keep me motivated!.....I'm doing my best to try and do a really quality restoration.....it's a challenge for me as I can be short on patience sometimes....This being my first "Frame off" resto I'm learning as I go....and this site has helped tons...I spend hours using the search function...that feature is priceless!

Getting closer to firing her up...Just waiting on a couple small parts to get the radiator core and related goodies installed!...I plan on doing video on the initial firing....hopefully it doesn't show up on "America's Funniest Home Videos" or "When Good Times Go Bad"......LOL

Dan

Here's one engine pic....playing with my new Camera I got for Christmas...was hoping it would be better in low light conditions than my other one....but not so much!

chevy_mike · 01-07-2009, 11:13 AM

I know you swapped to a later front axle but did you change the rear axle to a '71 or later housing?

Not 100% sure about the 4x4's but 2wd models, starting in '71, the axle widths became 1.5" wider, which could account for the brake lines being too short.

Also, starting in '71, with disc brakes, the hard lines were in front of the axle, where the flex line would connect, not behind like your frame is setup for. This could also account for the front lines being too short. Again, this info is relating to 2wd models so 4x4's might be different but it could be something to check.

That is always part of the fun when swapping in parts that are not for the exact year and/or model, you start to find all the little differences.

Hope the info might help you. Nice build!

Rack Man · 01-07-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

I know you swapped to a later front axle but did you change the rear axle to a '71 or later housing?

Not 100% sure about the 4x4's but 2wd models, starting in '71, the axle widths became 1.5" wider, which could account for the brake lines being too short.

Also, starting in '71, with disc brakes, the hard lines were in front of the axle, where the flex line would connect, not behind like your frame is setup for. This could also account for the front lines being too short. Again, this info is relating to 2wd models so 4x4's might be different but it could be something to check.

That is always part of the fun when swapping in parts that are not for the exact year and/or model, you start to find all the little differences.

Hope the info might help you. Nice build!

I appreciate the insight....

Well, I'm 99.9% sure that both of my axles were original.....the existing GM 12 bolt hard lines do not have the spring wrap like in the 71-72 and fit perfect....the bends on the new ones are fine....their just too short on the last leg before the "T".....

On the front brake lines....I explained to Inline Tube exactly what I was doing as far as the axle swap.....They said no problem...but not only was the length wrong....the fitting that goes through the frame had the wrong ID to accept the new lines they sent me....

Also, my existing drum lines entered the frame in front of the axle, just as your claiming that the Disk should.....is that a correct statement or did you mean the opposite?.....because the length would have been correct if I mounted them on the rear side of the bump stops....

Here is a pic of where my existing front lines entered..

Thanks, Dan

**Joesjunk** · 01-07-2009, 01:19 PM

WOW, Great job!! I like them stock also. As for the tires, 31 10.50 15 will fit, but would look better with a wider wheel. They made 15 x 8 stock steel wheels that you can put the hub caps on. They look good with 31 10.50's or 33 12.50's. If you want to keep the 6" wheels, they make 33 9.50 15 tires. Cant wait to see it done!!

ChaseDale3and8 · 01-07-2009, 03:51 PM

Looking forward to seeing the video of the initial start up! ...Joe

Rack Man · 01-13-2009, 07:52 PM

test...ok that didn't work.......neither did that.....or that.....or that.....DAMN!

Ok...I have no idea how to embed a youtube video in a post...any help?

Also any idea how shorten a video so that I can upload to Youtube???

Dan

msgross · 01-13-2009, 08:14 PM

Here you go... all you have to copy is the address

YouTube - 1970 Chevy 4x4 - Engine

Rack Man · 01-13-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgross

Here you go... all you have to copy is the address

YouTube - 1970 Chevy 4x4 - Engine

Thanks Mike........I tried "Wrapping" the link as well as the youtube embedded link every way possible...never thought of just copying and pasting the addy!

Anyways, I indeed got the engine started today....w/virtually no issues....one small gas leak at the carb inlet.....then just timed it and adjusted the carb and she purred like a baby...

I have the inital start up video but it's 30 min's long....I'm trying to find a way to shorten it up....This video was taken after the leak was fixed and we had her running good!

Dan

msgross · 01-13-2009, 09:09 PM

use MS movie maker to shorten up videos...

sounds good but the camera makes it sound more like a tractor!

did you have it rebuilt?

Rack Man · 01-13-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgross

use MS movie maker to shorten up videos...

sounds good but the camera makes it sound more like a tractor!

did you have it rebuilt?

Yea the camera does no justice on the sound....Actually I am really pleased with the sweet sound thats coming out of the $35 Dynamax mufflers....And yes the engine was rebuilt and bored 30 over with a baby cam....

sdailey · 01-13-2009, 09:26 PM

Dan,

You officially suck......

And I thought getting my oil filter adapter installed this afternoon was an accomplishment. The video is awesome. Keep up the good work. I'm going to stand over there now and pout.

Rack Man · 01-14-2009, 01:08 PM

Ok...here is the initial start-up...happens about 1:00 min. in...

The older guy is Bud, the guy who did the rebuild...he wanted to be present when it got fired for the first time....

We had some timing light issues, so it's gets a bit boring....but it was exciting for me....I'm so stoked that we had no issues to speak of....I did have a light intermittent scratching sound coming from the flywheel/clutch area that lasted for a minute or two....then subsided...not sure what it was....But other than that all went well...!!

YouTube - 1970 Chevy 4x4 - Inital Engine Start-up

NYC-10 · 01-20-2009, 08:26 PM

I'm also building a 70 4x4 and I had the exact same problem w/ inline tube brake lines.I just sent them back.

Rack Man · 01-21-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC-10

I'm also building a 70 4x4 and I had the exact same problem w/ inline tube brake lines.I just sent them back.

Well,I just got my third set of rear brake lines delivered today.....and well....the drivers side - long one fit perfectly....but the short one wasn't even close to the correct bends....the length was ok, so I just hand bent it to fit the best I could....I'm done dealing with it....

Funny, Inline Tube now tells me to just throw away the other two sets they sent...one of which wasn't even for a chevy truck....at least there are no return shipping costs!

NYC-10 · 01-22-2009, 08:14 AM

I also ordered stainless hoses from them and they were longer then they were supposed to be.I sent everything back and went with a different company

gcburdic · 01-22-2009, 09:37 AM

WOW Dan, great build man....Keep the pictures coming and keep up the great work!

Rack Man · 01-25-2009, 07:55 PM

Started the wood bed conversion....Got it all diassembled and modified the front panel using the adapter flange from Mar-K. Actually went very fast...Only had about 3 hours total (2 guys).

I did learn that basically all I can really install right now (Pre-paint) is the main rear cross sill and the front panel....The intermediate cross sills will just be painted loose and then installed with the wood after paint

**thelonerife** · 03-04-2009, 12:49 AM

any updates?

BIG HEAD · 03-04-2009, 01:00 PM

Very very nice truck from the start. You are doing a great job with the detail.

**LEEVON** · 03-04-2009, 06:04 PM

Rack Man come back man!

vern350 · 03-04-2009, 11:11 PM

Amazed with the detail your putting into this build. Keep up the great work, things are looking good.

Rack Man · 03-23-2009, 10:16 PM

No real updates lately....I'm kinda stalled....Body has been in "body shop jail" and I'm a little low on funds right now...so It's all good!....However, all the body work is indeed complete and everything is now in urethane primer....

Now I'm trying to figure out the correct sequence to completing the wood bed conversion as far as paint is concerned??..

With the bed being fully dissambled, I'm wondering now, when should I do the actual assembly....after painting the loose bed panels ?.....or partial asssembly of the bed with rear cross sill and front panel only and then paint?....do I paint the intermediate sills loose ?....Or should I fully assemble everything now and just tape all the wood off ?...or maybe I can have the panels "Jammed" with paint, do the full asssembly and then paint the outside skins after the bed is back on the truck?

I originaly purchased everything except the wood and hardware thinking I could reassemble the entire bed and then simply add the wood later...but I soon realized that you can do that as all of the intermediate cross sills sandwich the wood to the bed....!

If anyone has any advise on this subject I would love to hear it!

Dan

**BAD4X4** · 03-24-2009, 08:05 PM

I put my bed together after paint. It was a time taker but it was worth it in the end. Just my $0.02

01-05-2009, 02:41 AM	#76
California gold 68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foresthill California Posts: 70	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Dan, I hope my build turns out half as nice as yours. Keep up the effort!

01-05-2009, 07:25 AM	#77
tommypic Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Piedmont , SC Posts: 728	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics WOW what a build . I just wish mine was that far a long . swapping parts and frt suspension is a PITA when going from old to new . going to watch this build __________________ My ZipCode = 29673 2008 Silverado Z71 LTZ Wrecked New Ride SOLD 71-72 Custom A/C Parts Truck < selling parts 67 Chevy ShortStep SOLD 67 GMC SWB Step <-- For Sell 67 Chevy SWB Step <-- working on 2000 Road King <-- SOLD 97 F150 my ride for now 2006 Escape wifes ride HELP SUPPORT THE BOARD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php Great How To Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=157669 Vendor Sites http://67-72chevytrucks.com/links/browselinks.php?c=2

01-07-2009, 12:23 AM	#78
Rack Man Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 770	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Thanks guys for all the compliments....Helps keep me motivated!.....I'm doing my best to try and do a really quality restoration.....it's a challenge for me as I can be short on patience sometimes....This being my first "Frame off" resto I'm learning as I go....and this site has helped tons...I spend hours using the search function...that feature is priceless! Getting closer to firing her up...Just waiting on a couple small parts to get the radiator core and related goodies installed!...I plan on doing video on the initial firing....hopefully it doesn't show up on "America's Funniest Home Videos" or "When Good Times Go Bad"......LOL Dan Here's one engine pic....playing with my new Camera I got for Christmas...was hoping it would be better in low light conditions than my other one....but not so much! __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=309288 Last edited by Rack Man; 01-07-2009 at 12:24 AM.

01-07-2009, 11:13 AM	#79
chevy_mike Never Ending Projects Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,836	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics I know you swapped to a later front axle but did you change the rear axle to a '71 or later housing? Not 100% sure about the 4x4's but 2wd models, starting in '71, the axle widths became 1.5" wider, which could account for the brake lines being too short. Also, starting in '71, with disc brakes, the hard lines were in front of the axle, where the flex line would connect, not behind like your frame is setup for. This could also account for the front lines being too short. Again, this info is relating to 2wd models so 4x4's might be different but it could be something to check. That is always part of the fun when swapping in parts that are not for the exact year and/or model, you start to find all the little differences. Hope the info might help you. Nice build! __________________ . 1965 C10 Panel, Tiki Express http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=506580 SOLD 1968 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod Hauler http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313233 SOLD 1965 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415702 SOLD We were given two ears and one mouth for a reason... listen twice as much and speak half as often... Last edited by chevy_mike; 01-07-2009 at 11:14 AM.

01-07-2009, 01:19 PM	#81
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,703	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics WOW, Great job!! I like them stock also. As for the tires, 31 10.50 15 will fit, but would look better with a wider wheel. They made 15 x 8 stock steel wheels that you can put the hub caps on. They look good with 31 10.50's or 33 12.50's. If you want to keep the 6" wheels, they make 33 9.50 15 tires. Cant wait to see it done!! __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

01-07-2009, 03:51 PM	#82
ChaseDale3and8 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Springfield Mo. Posts: 1,086	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Looking forward to seeing the video of the initial start up! ...Joe __________________ I'm not speedin'! I'm qualifyin'!

01-13-2009, 07:52 PM	#83
Rack Man Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 770	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics test...ok that didn't work.......neither did that.....or that.....or that.....DAMN! Ok...I have no idea how to embed a youtube video in a post...any help? Also any idea how shorten a video so that I can upload to Youtube??? Dan __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=309288 Last edited by Rack Man; 01-13-2009 at 08:52 PM.

01-13-2009, 09:09 PM	#86
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics use MS movie maker to shorten up videos... sounds good but the camera makes it sound more like a tractor! did you have it rebuilt? __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

01-13-2009, 09:26 PM	#88
sdailey The Few, The Proud Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground, Georgia Posts: 1,830	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Dan, You officially suck...... And I thought getting my oil filter adapter installed this afternoon was an accomplishment. The video is awesome. Keep up the good work. I'm going to stand over there now and pout. __________________ Shannon

01-20-2009, 08:26 PM	#90
NYC-10 screamin eagle Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: westbury ny Posts: 237	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics I'm also building a 70 4x4 and I had the exact same problem w/ inline tube brake lines.I just sent them back. Attached Images __________________ SCREAMIN EAGLE

01-22-2009, 08:14 AM	#92
NYC-10 screamin eagle Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: westbury ny Posts: 237	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics I also ordered stainless hoses from them and they were longer then they were supposed to be.I sent everything back and went with a different company __________________ SCREAMIN EAGLE

01-22-2009, 09:37 AM	#93
gcburdic Restoration Virgin! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 8,298	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics WOW Dan, great build man....Keep the pictures coming and keep up the great work! __________________ Geoff with a G 1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress 1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban A Suburban Named Isabella 1966 Ford Mustang Mama's High School Graduation Present

01-25-2009, 07:55 PM	#94
Rack Man Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 770	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Started the wood bed conversion....Got it all diassembled and modified the front panel using the adapter flange from Mar-K. Actually went very fast...Only had about 3 hours total (2 guys). I did learn that basically all I can really install right now (Pre-paint) is the main rear cross sill and the front panel....The intermediate cross sills will just be painted loose and then installed with the wood after paint __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=309288 Last edited by Rack Man; 01-27-2009 at 12:49 AM.

03-04-2009, 12:49 AM	#95
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03-04-2009, 01:00 PM	#96
BIG HEAD Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: lake city florida Posts: 327	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Very very nice truck from the start. You are doing a great job with the detail. __________________ MY POND TRUCK BUILD http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=297393



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03-04-2009, 06:04 PM	#97
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,888	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Rack Man come back man! __________________ '20 Silverado Trail Boss ~ '17 Tahoe ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~ '55 Pontiac Safari ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids

03-04-2009, 11:11 PM	#98
vern350 like a rock Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 517	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics Amazed with the detail your putting into this build. Keep up the great work, things are looking good.

03-23-2009, 10:16 PM	#99
Rack Man Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 770	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics No real updates lately....I'm kinda stalled....Body has been in "body shop jail" and I'm a little low on funds right now...so It's all good!....However, all the body work is indeed complete and everything is now in urethane primer.... Now I'm trying to figure out the correct sequence to completing the wood bed conversion as far as paint is concerned??.. With the bed being fully dissambled, I'm wondering now, when should I do the actual assembly....after painting the loose bed panels ?.....or partial asssembly of the bed with rear cross sill and front panel only and then paint?....do I paint the intermediate sills loose ?....Or should I fully assemble everything now and just tape all the wood off ?...or maybe I can have the panels "Jammed" with paint, do the full asssembly and then paint the outside skins after the bed is back on the truck? I originaly purchased everything except the wood and hardware thinking I could reassemble the entire bed and then simply add the wood later...but I soon realized that you can do that as all of the intermediate cross sills sandwich the wood to the bed....! If anyone has any advise on this subject I would love to hear it! Dan __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=309288 Last edited by Rack Man; 03-23-2009 at 10:18 PM.

03-24-2009, 08:05 PM	#100
BAD4X4 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: La pine Oregon Posts: 1,668	Re: "FRAME OFF" Has Begun - Wish Me Luck! - Pics I put my bed together after paint. It was a time taker but it was worth it in the end. Just my $0.02 __________________ 1972 Cheyenne K-30 6"lift {502 PROJECT} 1972 Cheyenne K-30 8"lift 454 450hp {Ol'Blue} 1972 Cheyenne K-20 Custom Stretch 6" lift 454 1972 Custom Deluxe K-20 4" lift 2007 GMC Crew Cab Diesel 6"lift {The Tow Rig 2017 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 6.7 6"lift (Wife's) 1977 El Camino SS Grandpa baught new 1986 K-30 Crew Cab 502 1955 Chevy 2-Door gasser 454 550hp{project} 1956 Chevy Bel-Air 2-Door hardtop 572 700hp 1979 Ford F-350 All Original 4x4 (Wife's)

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