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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Bob B, would you have a picture of the correct mount in your truck? I'd like to compare with mine.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Great truck. I have my 68 apart for a complete frame-off restomod. If you have any questions or need pictures let me know.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Jud, have you been doing anything else to your truck? I'm surprised that they did not move your thread over to the 4x4 section also.
Erl, thanks for the offer to help. You have a great truck. I love those LWB stepsides. I will let you know if I need any other pics. --Clint Last edited by 75gmc454; 02-07-2011 at 09:48 PM. |
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Rick here are the pics of the back of the truck:
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Clint,
It looks like my valve cover is about 3/4" from the firewall at the closest point. I'd still like it if Bob or Erl could post a pic of what the original mounts look like. It seems like your crank pulley has three grooves! Mine has 2. I'm going to update my thread a little now, we'll see if it gets moved. Jud
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Sounds good Jud. That third pulley is for the A/C. That is the one that is very close to that crossmember.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Guys, I will post some pictures when I get a chance in the next day or so. Sorry, I have been busy. I'll also explain the pulleys. Bob.
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That sounds good Bob.
I think I have found what the problem is. Someone has put shims under all rear mounts for some reason. That caused the A/C pulley to rub that front crossmember. Then someone welded those tabs on the drivers side motor mount to raise the front of the engine. I am going to start over by finding the right mount and taking out all of those shims and see what happens. I drove the truck today, and I cannot get the front drive shaft to stop turning. I have the truck in 2wd and the hubs unlocked but it still turns. It is not the front axle because I jacked up the truck and they are unlocked. The problem is with the transfercase. Any ideas? |
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Very nice truck, cant wait to see the restoration!
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thanks for the pics tail gate isnt bad at all you should see if you could wet sand the blue off of the roof and get some trim on there!
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Here are some motor mount pictures. My truck is completely apart, but going back together now. So, everything is exposed and available for photos.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Thanks Erl, love your truck by the way! Are the rubber mounts original? Could you get a closeup photo of them and measure the thickness?
Also, your PS pump bracket is welded like mine, is that one that you had custom made? I assume the original PS brackets were not welded. I don't think the ram assist on my truck is factory since the bracket was welded.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
Thanks for posting those pics. Yes Erl your work looks great. Everything looks original on your truck. I see now I must find some of those mounts. I would also like to find some original radiator hoses. Mine has those hoses you can use for different applications.
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Jud, thanks for requesting the pics. They have answered some of our questions.
If you dont want that power steering I'll buy it. Lol Posted via Mobile Device |
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Clint, there are some additional photos here in post 26. You may want to prevent him from scrapping them: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=437680&page=2
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
I think I know what the problem is on the 4X4. The original V-6 motor mount used on all trucks with manual transmissions is part #2391949, and it has not been availble for some time. It looks to me like someone substituted a different mount. Here is side and bottome views of my left mount:
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Here are pictures of the side and bottom of the right side motor mount:
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I agree the engine is setting too high in the 4X4. Look at the A/C vacuum can on my truck, and see how close it is to the valve cover. It looks like the P.O. had to remove it for clearance. BTW- that bracket that goes around the upper radiator hose is for an AIR (smog) pump. V-6's in 1500's with manual transmissions sometimes came with them.
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All '67-'69 GMC V-6's in pickups came with a 2 groove pulley on the crank hub (these engines do not use a harmonic balancer). The first groove closest to the engine is for the alternator and water pump, the second groove is for the power steering pump and water pump, if equipped. There is a second single groove pulley bolted on the front for the A/C compressor. This pulley is smaller in diameter than the 2 groove pulley. Back to the motor mounts, I have been told there is a particular transmission mount that will work as a replacement. I don't have a part number for it, but you might try asking on the '60-'66 GMC V-6 website forum. I believe that is where I heard about it. Hope this helps you guys out. Bob.
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Thanks Bob for those pics and info. Your truck looks like it is very nice. It is a great color also. I can see exactly what I need to do.
I knew my truck had a smog pump because the manifolds are drilled for the air tubes. I can see where the vacuum canister was mounted on the side of the air box. I will do some searching to see if I can find the right mount to substitute. Clint Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by 75gmc454; 02-10-2011 at 10:24 AM. |
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The 'tin can' style vacuum canister has a little stamped steel bracket on it. The replacement is a plastic ball shaped canister that has the bracket molded on it. The plastic canister is still available.
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Thanks Bob. I think the canister on my truck still has the tabs on it. I can check when it gets warmer.
We got about 5 inches of snow yesterday. Here are a few pics of the 67 and since we are now in the 4x4 forum, Ill post some pics of my other 4x4's in the snow. Here is the GMC parked in front of the house: ![]() When it was snowing. Here is the 58 and the 73: ![]() Here is my 72 ![]() Last edited by 75gmc454; 02-10-2011 at 10:42 PM. |
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Nice! I'll take that 58 off your hands.
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Thanks. Man I searched for a while before I found a napco truck. Not very common around here.
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Re: 67 gmc 4x4
I'm not really sure about the lwb trucks but I see that lmc does offer 4 leaf rear springs for the half ton 67-68 and a 5 leaf for the 3/4 ton. I havent ever owned one. Well not yet anyways.
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