Xmas In March, Thanks To Porterbuilt.

[SCOTI]

MeanGreen..... I will give you a shout this weekend if that would work for you?

[64shortc10]

Here you go Meangreen,
Tony from Norcal

[bedsled71]

im starting to think i really need to get me one of these front ends

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

MeanGreen..... I will give you a shout this weekend if that would work for you?

THATS COOL.

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by 64shortc10

Here you go Meangreen,
Tony from Norcal

Looking good Tony, looking good.

[BigShoe24]

That Front End is amazing. I want one so bad, but the price is a little much. I have the Strong-Arms already, which were $$$$ as well, what kind of money are you guys spending to get the cross-member, and rack & pinion? Thanks for the help

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by BigShoe24

That Front End is amazing. I want one so bad, but the price is a little much. I have the Strong-Arms already, which were $$$$ as well, what kind of money are you guys spending to get the cross-member, and rack & pinion? Thanks for the help

I think I have some where in the neighborhood of $1300-1500. crossmember and rack.The crossmember is worth he money.

[SCOTI]

Hey MeanGreen.... sorry about being a no-show this weekend. The weather & timing were just right so I had to get as much accomplished as possible.

Maybe if your not too busy, I could swing by tomorrow PM after work/dinner? Let me know what you have going on.

[MEANGREEN70]

Scoti, no problem any day after Wednesday will be good.

[MEANGREEN70]

This is probably a very dumm question but I need help, like I have said in the pass this is my first built, and I'm learning as I go. From my mistakes and from the help that I get from you guys wish is a lot and I thank you for it. The air system that i bought a long time ago, even before I found this form, is a 2 tank-2 comp setup. My question is, does the front suspension gets 1 tank and 1 comp and so does the rear, or do the 2 tank and comps hook together some how and make one system and supply all four bags? The system did come with instructions when i bought it 1or2yrs ago, and now i don't know where they are.

Some pics would be very appreciated.

[jlaird]

you can plumb it any way you want. Different guys will have different opinions on this like anything else. I have the same setup. What I'm doing is connecting the two tanks together and run each compressor outlet seperately directly to one tank . Don't try to connect the compressors together and then run one line into the tank. Then I'm going to run two lines out of the tank. One line is going to control the drivers side valves, and the other the pass. side valves. I'm gonna run 1/2 line between the tank and the valves, and 3/8 between the valves and bag. I'm plumbing my valves like in this pic. Also with two compressors, your gonna want a relay I think for each compressor. Suicide doors has a relay specifically for 2 compressors.

So back to your question, there's lots of ways to plumb it.



check here for compressor wiring info: http://www.airridetalk.com/wiring-info/

heres that relay I was talking about: http://www.*****************/Swingers80AmpRelay.php
[IMG]http://www.*****************/images/products/Swingers80AmpRelay.jpg[/IMG]

[MEANGREEN70]

I don't mean to sound stupid, but I'm still stock on how to plum a 2 tank, 2 comp combo. can I please see some pics of some set-up please.

[dan468]

Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

I don't mean to sound stupid, but I'm still stock on how to plum a 2 tank, 2 comp combo. can I please see some pics of some set-up please.

http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/air...t-freebie.html

This should help. On the side of the tank that goes to the bags and compressors use a T fitting.

[BigTruckDriver]

Does the dropmember keep the engine centered in between the frame rails?

[PBFAB.COM]

Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

Does the dropmember keep the engine centered in between the frame rails?

Yup.

[BigTruckDriver]

Originally Posted by porterbuilt

Yup.

I may be looking cross sided but it looks a little off in the pic above, maybe just the angle of the pic. Do you have any photos of a 65, or same style, with it at ride height? and what about a pic dropped with the stock rear suspension with bags and dropped? Thanks

I remember seeing a kit the other day that has a link coming from the rear that the bag mounts to. I think it was called a 6 link or some thing like that,lol. If I used some thing like this on the stock suspension I could possible get a few more inches lower because the rear bags wont be sandwiched in between the trailing arm and the frame. HMMMMM?

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by BigTruckDriver

I may be looking cross sided but it looks a little off in the pic above, maybe just the angle of the pic. Do you have any photos of a 65, or same style, with it at ride height? and what about a pic dropped with the stock rear suspension with bags and dropped? Thanks

I remember seeing a kit the other day that has a link coming from the rear that the bag mounts to. I think it was called a 6 link or some thing like that,lol. If I used some thing like this on the stock suspension I could possible get a few more inches lower because the rear bags wont be sandwiched in between the trailing arm and the frame. HMMMMM?

The firewall is what gives it that look. but the engine is center.

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by jlaird

you can plumb it any way you want. Different guys will have different opinions on this like anything else. I have the same setup. What I'm doing is connecting the two tanks together and run each compressor outlet seperately directly to one tank . Don't try to connect the compressors together and then run one line into the tank. Then I'm going to run two lines out of the tank. One line is going to control the drivers side valves, and the other the pass. side valves. I'm gonna run 1/2 line between the tank and the valves, and 3/8 between the valves and bag. I'm plumbing my valves like in this pic. Also with two compressors, your gonna want a relay I think for each compressor. Suicide doors has a relay specifically for 2 compressors.

So back to your question, there's lots of ways to plumb it.



check here for compressor wiring info: http://www.airridetalk.com/wiring-info/

heres that relay I was talking about: http://www.*****************/Swingers80AmpRelay.php
[IMG]http://www.*****************/images/products/Swingers80AmpRelay.jpg[/IMG]

jlaird, thanks for the info. heres pics of the system that I'm having problems with, the pics only shows 4 valves, but i have a total of 8 valves. 4 for the rear, and 4 for the front. I'm guessing that i can connect 4 of the valve to one of the center tank port, so where would i connect the other 4. Also would that be the place for the comp to connect, and is that where the tanks would connect together? help please.

[jimmydean]

Rather than connect the tanks, why not connect 1 compressor to each tank, then split the vales between the tanks? So instead of using the port to connect the tanks, use that port for valves.

[jlaird]

What exactly are you having problems with, maybe I can help.

[MEANGREEN70]

Originally Posted by jlaird

What exactly are you having problems with, maybe I can help.

Well by the pic that you posted you have 4 of your valve connected together, I don't know if you're using 4 or 8 valves like me. I though about doing what jimmydean said, but I was told not to. Instead I was told to run one hose from one comp to the other, my guess is that 4 valves per tank right? if so how would you hook everything. thats my question. sorry don't mean to be a pain in the ass.

Also do you know if is true, that if you run the valves straight from the bags, it gives you a more high speed setup.

[dan468]

Originally Posted by MEANGREEN70

Well by the pic that you posted you have 4 of your valve connected together, I don't know if you're using 4 or 8 valves like me. I though about doing what jimmydean said, but I was told not to. Instead I was told to run one hose from one comp to the other, my guess is that 4 valves per tank right? if so how would you hook everything. thats my question. sorry don't mean to be a pain in the ass.

Also do you know if is true, that if you run the valves straight from the bags, it gives you a more high speed setup.

Try putting brass T's at the end of each tank. Two T's will run the valves (4 total exits from the tank) and the other two T's will have one side for the compressor and the other side can be for joining the tanks. Is this a good explanation? Sorry don't have pictures

[MEANGREEN70]

I finally got it, I took all the ideas that you guys posted and came up with a setup. Ill post a drawing later today. thank you for the help.

[jlaird]

don't think about it like 4 valves per tank. When you connect the tanks together, you basically have one big air supply. Your going to run one line from the tank to the 4 valves plumbed like the picture I posted. Your going to do this twice because you have 8 valves. You can have that cluster of 4 valves control the two front or rear bags OR two passenger or driver side bags. Did that make sense? Maybe i'll draw a pic. for ya.

[MEANGREEN70]

Well heres my drawing, I think this will work. What do you guys think? hope the drawing is clear enough. maybe?