Dropmember Competition ?? Have you guys seen this yet?

[Kontrol Phreaks]

Originally Posted by Shane

why do you have a lingerie link as your signature ... WWW.ONEOFFDESIGN.COM

Supposed to be a link to a custom shop but the link is wrong. Search one off designs and it comes up http://www.oneoffcustoms.com/

[scotts62]

Originally Posted by Kontrol Phreaks

Supposed to be a link to a custom shop but the link is wrong. Search one off designs and it comes up http://www.oneoffcustoms.com/

That truck is sweet!

[LONGHAIR]

C3500, Go easy here, both of the posts you have made to this thread are "in effect" trolling. Contribute...or don't post.

From the rules:

IV. Pure trolling, either to upset someone or simply for your personal
enjoyment, is strictly prohibited. If you're here to cause trouble, it will be a very short stay. Immediate BAN and you will be reported to your ISP.

[C3500]

I'm just tied of everyone putting there 2+ cents about stupid stuff! I just pointed out scoti because this guy is posting like every other post about some thing stupid. What does it matter how came out with what first or it look like that or this! Does Scoti work for Nate or SD it doesn't affect you. The only one it affects is Nate and hes being cool about it... That's all I'm saying, people start drama on here because thay have nothing else better to do!! 6,507 is alot of bluid time.

[jkade]

Let me say that Nate builds on fine product and is a stand up guy.... I liked his dropmember so much it was the building block for the design of the one I built for my project. A blind man could have seen this coming, no one in america is going to let one person be the only man making money off things they can copy and make money off of theirselves. Anyone can reverse engineer something but it takes a lot of effort, smarts, and know how to be the first person to design and build something from scratch with nothing to go by but a idea in his head. I caught a bunch of crap for building mine but Nathan didn't have anything negative to say about it and I appreciate it, if I could have spared the change at the time for a dropmember I would have. All I am saying is Nathan deserves a lot of credit for be the "innovator" of what is in my opnion one of the best products ever devloped for 67-87 c10 trucks and blazers. Most people will agree and that is the only reason you are catching a little crap. Nathan is always glad to answer most any question I have seen someone ask him, lord knows I have asked a few myself and he has never steered me wrong.

[Shane]

Originally Posted by C3500

I'm just tied of everyone putting there 2+ cents about stupid stuff! I just pointed out scoti because this guy is posting like every other post about some thing stupid. What does it matter how came out with what first or it look like that or this! Does Scoti work for Nate or SD it doesn't affect you. The only one it affects is Nate and hes being cool about it... That's all I'm saying, people start drama on here because thay have nothing else better to do!! 6,507 is alot of bluid time.

You haven't been here long enough to be "tired of everyone putting their 2+ cents" in. So that doesn't fly.

Scoti and Nate are both LOOOONG time members here, unlike yourself, and offer tons of knowledge and experience, again unlike yourself.

As far as it mattering who made what first, it most certainly does matter and I'm pretty sure 99% of the members here will continue to buy from Nate and mark SD off their list when it comes time to purchase parts. What you new guys may not understand is this is MORE than an internet message board. This is a group of guys that gather together and discuss a common passion. We may have our tiffs among ourselves from time to time, but we don't take lightly someone ELSE coming into our group simply to beat their chests and stir the pot.

As far as the drama you refer to ... there wasn't any until you started posting.

Go back to the mini truck sites and troll there ... it's full of young guys such as yourself that "know it all" yet "do nothing"

p.s. nice edit on the sig link there Mr. Victoria's Secret...

[C3500]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I wasn't asking you directly..... just asking out loud for anyone w/the info.
It's not worth registering on that other forum just to ask questions that the 'regulars' from the site will flame me about. I noticed you're registered there so maybe they'll answer you.

[QUOTE=SCOTI;2840000]What makes a legitimate question stupid? QUOTE]

asking a question you don't want answered!

[jkade]

Oh yeah last 2 cents I am going to throw in SCOTI is a jam up guy and has tons of info he will share with anyone that asks so be nice to him becasue I am sure he knows more than me and most on this site about 67-87 chevys.

[Shane]

Scoti has forgotten more than Mr. Frilly Underthings will ever know ...

[C3500]

shane for your info I'm been looking at this site for years and finally became a member in 2007 i hardly ever post because every time i post something on here someone Allways has something better to say! and as far as being young yes but not stupid I'm not a home grown mechanic playing with my dads truck i build hotrods and custom cars/trucks for a living!! so maybe since i "do nothing" I'll join your Unfinished Project Club!!

[Shane]

Welcome aboard.

Now, if you don't want to be referred to as a kid then stop stirring the pot and start contributing.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

C3500 P.m. Sent.

[Painter D]

Scoti is a stand up member here ,6507 posts may be alot of build time, but it's also alot of helping people out on here. With years of experience and knowledge ,steering people in the right direction.

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by C3500

shane for your info I'm been looking at this site for years and finally became a member in 2007 i hardly ever post because every time i post something on here someone Allways has something better to say! and as far as being young yes but not stupid I'm not a home grown mechanic playing with my dads truck i build hotrods and custom cars/trucks for a living!! so maybe since i "do nothing" I'll join your Unfinished Project Club!!

You have been asked to put a check on your attitude by a site Moderator. Apparently you didn't take his post seriously, so now it's my turn. You have a chance to prove that you are "young yes but not stupid " by responding in a positive and polite manner. If you choose to respond in any other manner, your action will be taken as a flagrant disregard for the staff of this forum. There will be no further warning.

[SCOTI]

Because many read what was going on, I just wanted to say C3500 & I are good. No harm no foul.

Let the discussion continue . . ..... .

[cajundragger]

competition keeps everyone honest on the price. Im all for it.

Nate- feel humble they used you as the leg work.


I really dont see how anyone can really be upset though. We in American live in an almost complete competition market economy. In the end its just another bolt in crossmember.

Now if only gas would go on competition instead of speculation I could cruise more often.

[rotgg]

any word about the patents

[pissonNOS]

call me stupid but what does reverse engineering mean??

[jimmydean]

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

call me stupid but what does reverse engineering mean??

You take something, then figure out how it's made so you can make it yourself.

Like the Chinese do with Nike shoes, or Microsoft does with internet technologies.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by pissonNOS

call me stupid but what does reverse engineering mean??

Using an existing part to figure out how everything works, where it goes, & possible ways to improve vs. starting from nothing.

[pissonNOS]

ok fair enough

[rotgg]

guess there are no patents on this "innovative" product

[SBTork]

Originally Posted by rotgg

guess there are no patents on this "innovative" product

im just asking for everyone's sake......why the hate?

PB's product is great, and im sure SD's product will be great once in full production too. If one was good, two can only lead to better things. We're all here for the same reason.

[RunninLo]

Originally Posted by SBTork

im just asking for everyone's sake......why the hate?

PB's product is great, and im sure SD's product will be great once in full production too. If one was good, two can only lead to better things. We're all here for the same reason.

I can only speak for myself but I think a lot of the board here feels the same way I do.
It's not hate at all. It's disappointment. The SD peice is what it is. A knock-off. It is visually and functionally so similar that anyone not in the know would think they were both the same product.

Suicide doors got a dropmember in their hands and rather than do right by it's creator and become dealers they STOLE and reverse engineered a design to put a few extra dollars in their accounts. They deal Airlift, ART, KP why not Porterbuilt? Why not do the right thing? Nathan put his time and energy into the design. It's how he feeds and provides for his family. I want all of you in the SD fanboy camp to think about that. Put yourselves in his shoes. How would any of you say that whatever your job is it would be great if somebody came in and started doing what you do and potentially risked your ability to provide for your future? You'd be pretty pissed. I know I would.

I thought more of the SD crew. I really did. As a die hard mini trucker I thought they did a good service. I want to beleive this is all a joke, but it's not and after counting the number of ad pages in the new MT and these most recent business tactics I am truly willing to stand by my comparison to AIM. Joe is that you? I'm ready to trade my soul for a cheap knock off.

I have no hate, only pity
Josh

PS the fact that Nate has been so gracious about this speaks volumes. The fact that not only his customers but others too have defended him this profoundly speaks even more

[Riveted1]

Wow... seems like the trolls came a runnin' to this topic. Must be ruffling a few feathers somewhere...

Guys, we know who the stand up people are here. It's America. Let em have their opinions and lets go on with our fun here on the forums. They will be weeded out soon enough.

This has turned into nothing more than a big pissing match, and it cheapens the forum. Like I said before, the people "in the know" will still go to Nate. Competition is good, and like Nate said, he expected this to happen. It's the nature of the beast. I have no doubt that Nate will survive and probably go on to produce even more innovative products. Just imagine Apple and IBM back in the day....