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**swervin ervin** · 02-20-2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by 79BIG10
So what's the difference in P-S-C and P-S-T?

I'm not sure on PST, but PSC is the place I bought my front end kit. They use the best parts available. All the urethane bushings are Energy Suspension, which are the best bushings made, bar none. I believe PST is a bushing maker only. Not sure. So you would need to buy the other parts seperately, as in tie rod ends,
ball joints, idler arm, etc. The kit PSC sells is complete. Every part you need to rebuild the front end. Only thing that don't come in the kit is the pitman arm, but I guess they consider this part of the steering box.

Of course this is my opinion only.

Izzy · 02-20-2003, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by swervin ervin

I'm not sure on PST, but PSC is the place I bought my front end kit. They use the best parts available. All the urethane bushings are Energy Suspension, which are the best bushings made, bar none. I believe PST is a bushing maker only. Not sure. So you would need to buy the other parts seperately, as in tie rod ends,
ball joints, idler arm, etc. The kit PSC sells is complete. Every part you need to rebuild the front end. Only thing that don't come in the kit is the pitman arm, but I guess they consider this part of the steering box.

Of course this is my opinion only.

The P-S-T kit includes the following:

2 Upper Ball Joints
2 Lower Ball Joints
2 Outer Tie Rod Ends
4 POLYGRAPHITE¨ Upper Inner Control Arm Bushings*
2 or 4 POLYGRAPHITE¨ Lower Inner Bushings* (as required)
2 POLYGRAPHITE¨ Strut Rod Bushings (as required)
2 POLYGRAPHITE¨ Stabilizer Links**
2 POLYGRAPHITE¨ Sway Bar Bushings***
Control Arm Bumpers (most models)

Retail is $219
Luckily I just installed a pitman arm and have a idler arm to put in so I'm golden w/ the P-S-T kit.

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 02:07 PM

I need that kit!!

bigblock73 · 02-20-2003, 02:08 PM

got that on my 73...LOVE IT!!!! My truck has no sway bars and that kit makes it awfully damn hard to tell!

-Jeff

Low87 · 02-20-2003, 02:08 PM

No kidding, that's nice!

Low87 · 02-20-2003, 02:09 PM

So you noticed a big improvement with it Jeff?

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 02:12 PM

My bushings are all worn out...As soon as my other car is purchased and I dont have to drive the truck everyday...I will do a complete front end rebuild...along with the bags and maybe tubular a arms.

Izzy · 02-20-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
My bushings are all worn out...As soon as my other car is purchased and I dont have to drive the truck everyday...I will do a complete front end rebuild...along with the bags and maybe tubular a arms.

We can get all that done. I'll know how hard it is next month when I put on my PST kit.

bigblock73 · 02-20-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Low87
So you noticed a big improvement with it Jeff?

Very much so, it gives you way more of a "postitve" feel as far as handling, a smaller steering wheel went on shortly after and helped out even more.

-Jeff

Izzy · 02-20-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by bigblock73
got that on my 73...LOVE IT!!!! My truck has no sway bars and that kit makes it awfully damn hard to tell!

-Jeff

I no need swaybars, 4 way PSST.

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 02:15 PM

did you get the 10" wheel so you can drive with cuffs on!! hahaa

79BIG10 · 02-20-2003, 02:17 PM

So what's the difference in polyurethane and polygraphite?

bigblock73 · 02-20-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by LOHRTBT
did you get the 10" wheel so you can drive with cuffs on!! hahaa

yup, now if only your mama would find the damn key for these fuzzy cuffs!!!

**swervin ervin** · 02-20-2003, 02:19 PM

I stand corrected on what the PST kits have. Looks like everything the PSC kit has, except I don't see a idler arm in that photo.

Who makes the PST bushings? Their anti sway bar bushings look like Prothanes. If so, I'll pass. These don't compare to Energy Suspension's in size.

Izzy · 02-20-2003, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by swervin ervin
I stand corrected on what the PST kits have. Looks like everything the PSC kit has, except I don't see a idler arm in that photo.

Who makes the PST bushings? Their anti sway bar bushings look like Prothanes. If so, I'll pass. These don't compare to Energy Suspension's in size.

Truthfully I have no idea but I've talked to tons of people that have them and love them from our trucks to camaros to vettes. LowC10 has them and he's a member here. Hopefully he'll chime in.

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 02:29 PM

eeEEEAAASSSYY Big Block!! hahaahahahaa

AirMale · 02-20-2003, 02:37 PM

I rebuilt with the entire front end with PSC when I did the spindles. It was, by far the most noticeable improvement to my truck to date! My truck didn't have a sway bar up front and after the kit was in, I really didn't need one. I later put in the factory sway bar cause they included the bushings with the original kit and it really didn't make a difference.

79BIG10 · 02-20-2003, 02:39 PM

PSC comes with all 4 sway bar bushings as well. Looks like I'll go with them if I ever get enough $$$.

**Captkaos** · 02-20-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by 79BIG10
So what's the difference in polyurethane and polygraphite?

One has graphite impregnated into it for "lubrication" (supposedly doesn't sqeak) the other doesn't.

BTW, I am running the PST on mine and loved it. And no, it didn't squeak.

BaggedC10 · 02-20-2003, 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by fiveeightchevy
Truthfully I have no idea but I've talked to tons of people that have them and love them from our trucks to camaros to vettes. LowC10 has them and he's a member here. Hopefully he'll chime in.

WORD!

PST makes an awesome front-end rebuild kit. This company manufactures their own polygraphite bushings. PG does not have to be lubricated at all. The bushings have grease within the body of the bushing. In fact, they have a 20-year warrany. Someone had a Camaro with their kit---One of his upper ball joint boots started to tear and leak after a few years. He called PST up and they sent him four new complete ball joints for FREE.

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 08:52 PM

Werdemup!!!

Must.....resist.......creditcard........temptations........DOH!!!

AirMale · 02-20-2003, 08:56 PM

Just broke the $9K mark on my Chase MC...... come join us in credit card hell.

brad2 · 02-20-2003, 09:02 PM

Mine got a new PST rebuild a few months ago.

LOHRTBT · 02-20-2003, 09:16 PM

oh hhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeelllllllllllllll no!! haha
I learned my lesson on the credit cards just like you are..will...have....ahhhaaha.
I avoid them like the plague.. I only use them when I know I have the money on hand to cover it or for an emergency.

The companies that make money off them should be thrown in jail for the rates they charge.

Hell I should just open my own card company....charge 10% flat interest to everyone......would still make a killing!!!

c10scotty · 02-20-2003, 11:21 PM

i rebuilt my front suspension with a pst kit and it is awesome. i get a slight noise when its really cold in the winter. i would call it more of a creak than a squeak, but that doesnt bother me. i went into the project willing to accept a squeak or two. it made an awesome improvement in handling....well im sure the drop helped too as i did the two at the same time.

02-20-2003, 02:07 PM	#78
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	I need that kit!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

02-20-2003, 02:08 PM	#80
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	No kidding, that's nice! __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

02-20-2003, 02:09 PM	#81
Low87 been here longer than Liz Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 2,437	So you noticed a big improvement with it Jeff? __________________ ~Greg~ Mac's Garage '87 SWB 6/8 drop "Piso" '08 CCSB Silverado DD the departed '89 GMC K5 Jimmy 4x4 "Rusty Nuts" '77 Chevy K5 Blazer 2wd '83 Chevy stepside "You get what you pay for" - Mike 'swervin ervin' Ervin

02-20-2003, 02:12 PM	#82
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	My bushings are all worn out...As soon as my other car is purchased and I dont have to drive the truck everyday...I will do a complete front end rebuild...along with the bags and maybe tubular a arms. __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

02-20-2003, 02:15 PM	#86
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	did you get the 10" wheel so you can drive with cuffs on!! hahaa __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

02-20-2003, 02:08 PM	#79
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,826	got that on my 73...LOVE IT!!!! My truck has no sway bars and that kit makes it awfully damn hard to tell! -Jeff

02-20-2003, 02:17 PM	#87
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,775	So what's the difference in polyurethane and polygraphite? __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

02-20-2003, 02:19 PM	#89
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	I stand corrected on what the PST kits have. Looks like everything the PSC kit has, except I don't see a idler arm in that photo. Who makes the PST bushings? Their anti sway bar bushings look like Prothanes. If so, I'll pass. These don't compare to Energy Suspension's in size.

02-20-2003, 02:29 PM	#91
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	eeEEEAAASSSYY Big Block!! hahaahahahaa __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

02-20-2003, 02:37 PM	#92
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	I rebuilt with the entire front end with PSC when I did the spindles. It was, by far the most noticeable improvement to my truck to date! My truck didn't have a sway bar up front and after the kit was in, I really didn't need one. I later put in the factory sway bar cause they included the bushings with the original kit and it really didn't make a difference. __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

02-20-2003, 02:39 PM	#93
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,775	PSC comes with all 4 sway bar bushings as well. Looks like I'll go with them if I ever get enough $$$. __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

02-20-2003, 08:52 PM	#96
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Werdemup!!! Must.....resist.......creditcard........temptations........DOH!!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

02-20-2003, 08:56 PM	#97
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Just broke the $9K mark on my Chase MC...... come join us in credit card hell. __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

02-20-2003, 09:02 PM	#98
brad2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmond, ok Posts: 1,058	Mine got a new PST rebuild a few months ago.

02-20-2003, 09:16 PM	#99
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	oh hhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeelllllllllllllll no!! haha I learned my lesson on the credit cards just like you are..will...have....ahhhaaha. I avoid them like the plague.. I only use them when I know I have the money on hand to cover it or for an emergency. The companies that make money off them should be thrown in jail for the rates they charge. Hell I should just open my own card company....charge 10% flat interest to everyone......would still make a killing!!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84



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02-20-2003, 11:21 PM	#100
c10scotty ~THE SILVER BULLET~ Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: WYOMING Posts: 285	i rebuilt my front suspension with a pst kit and it is awesome. i get a slight noise when its really cold in the winter. i would call it more of a creak than a squeak, but that doesnt bother me. i went into the project willing to accept a squeak or two. it made an awesome improvement in handling....well im sure the drop helped too as i did the two at the same time. __________________ ~1980 c10 chevy scottsdale~ ~2.5/4 drop 305/th350c~

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