GMC Trim Levels Q?

[71gmcburb]

my 71 has a black dash, body colored glovebox door, and "custom" script above the front door handles also has the GMC V-8 1500 fender emblems

[VA72C10]

Great info here! Thanks for sharing everyone!

[lil hoodlum]

From another lit.

Keith

[lil hoodlum]

More from the above literature. GMC Pleasure Campers.

Keith

[special-K]

Originally Posted by GOPAPA

Thanks Tim for your knowledge on the GMC's and for starting this thread..Thx also to all of you that has contributed to the thread as well.. my reasons for wanting to know is because at Car Shows a lot of people ask me questions about the GMC's and I simply cannot answer a lot of them.. I have a note book binder of info on Chevy's and now I will have a binder on GMC's..again I thank all who share in this great posting.. gopapa Larry

I posted this because I realized I really didn't know exactly how things went through these years with GMCs. Chevys get this question asked every month or two and anyone who reads through such threads should know the Chevy lowdown. But,I have been leaning more and more towards GMCs in recent years and I really should know this stuff. Factory Stock has been a great help in this thread,as well as all the contributions adding up to making this a valuable resource for our GMC brethren. I see this era of GM truck as the transition between GMCs & Chevys being a different truck under the same skin to being the same truck with different markings. Even with trim,GMC still followed a somewhat separate path form Chevy up to '72.

Originally Posted by 71gmcburb

my 71 has a black dash, body colored glovebox door, and "custom" script above the front door handles also has the GMC V-8 1500 fender emblems

Your glovebox door is body color because the interior is Olive. Dark Olive is the color those parts were painted if the vinyl was Olive. The same is true with a few other paint & vinyl color matches,like red and blue. I'm thinking your dash bezel has been replaced. It would have been Dark Olive from factory.

This brings up an interesting thought about Suburbans. With Chevys,the highest trim level was Custom (67-70) and Custom Deluxe (71-72)...both the mid-level trim. Did GMCs follow this? I know in '72 Chevy and GMC were on the same page,but I believe GMC Suburbans were available as Super Customs prior to '72,yet they would have the mid-level (Custom) trim,right? Am I wrong? Were all top-of-the-line GMC Suburbans Customs?

[71gmcburb]

I know mine isn't all that well optioned, no ac or tilt, has the black trim band, 350/hydro-matic from the factory (now has a 327) no 3rd seat... so I'm thinking that mine is a lower grade trimpack.

here's the SPID

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 71gmcburb

I know mine isn't all that well optioned, no ac or tilt, has the black trim band, 350/hydro-matic from the factory (now has a 327) no 3rd seat... so I'm thinking that mine is a lower grade trimpack.

here's the SPID

I'd say your's is pretty well optioned. It was/is definitely a nicer model. It just doesn't have those things people go nuts over these days. Many back them didn't feel the need for such extras that are now standard features. That's what makes people go ga-ga over that stuff today. I've had trucks with a long list of options,yet no tilt,no air,no tach,or bucket seats. But,they had things many trucks with tilt/tach/air didn't have. I see the various combinations of options found on these trucks as really interesting.

Originally Posted by bruceman1968

Tim, This is a great thread with tons of good info and even a good amount of clarity. Thanks for starting it, and Thanks to ALL who have contributed. After this thread runs it course, I think it should go to the FAQ section, IMHO. Awsome job guys!!!

I don't know why I never did it before. The thought would pass through my mind when I wasn't around the computer(you know I think about trucks even while in front of a judge),but never thought about it while at the computer. Every little bit anyone has to offer is helping this facts gathering process. That's the power in numbers at work that we have here. It's not all in books,it's in your driveway a lot of the time. I was thinking the same thing with having this thread stowed into the FAQ area as a helpful reference.

[Vintage Windmills]

I just brought a 1972 example home. It supports much of what we have established but does raise more questions.

Trim Level:
It is fairly consistent with what Factory Stock said about 72 sierra grande being a trim level. I say that because it doesn't have power brakes and there are pretty basic options on the SPID, including belt moulding, which in previous years was part of the option package (not trim level). Now I am a little confused why that would be listed with the 2 tone deluxe paint, thought that would automatically include it.

Badging:
This truck is also real consistent with the example Dantip has above with exception of my rear side badges saying "Sierra" on one side and "Sierra Grande" on the other. Both his and mine have the same z84 code on spid. Speaking of that, why weren't they YE5's given these are 72's? My glovebox door is woodgrain and with Sierra Grande emblem so it should be the top trim level this truck has. My intrument panel is not woodgrain but Vin on spid matches cab vin. As for front fender badges, both his and mine say "Sierra" but they made these badges that say "Sierra Grande" see pic below courtesy of Sharpie. So not everything adds up with the 72 badging in my case. Does Dantips truck have woodgrain and Sierra grande emblem on the glovebox? If not, then his could be a "Sierra" and then at least his badging would make sense. I also wonder why mine has the plain side marker lights, i suppose they could be replacements. Truck does appear to have had some paint work at one point.

[Vintage Windmills]

Here is the Grande fender emblem courtesy of Sharpie posting in another thread. Now, what we don't know is what year truck this was on.

[DANTIP]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

I just brought a 1972 example home. It supports much of what we have established but does raise more questions.

Trim Level:
It is fairly consistent with what Factory Stock said about 72 sierra grande being a trim level. I say that because it doesn't have power brakes and there are pretty basic options on the SPID, including belt moulding, which in previous years was part of the option package (not trim level). Now I am a little confused why that would be listed with the 2 tone deluxe paint, thought that would automatically include it.

Badging:
This truck is also real consistent with the example Dantip has above with exception of my rear side badges saying "Sierra" on one side and "Sierra Grande" on the other. Both his and mine have the same z84 code on spid. Speaking of that, why weren't they YE5's given these are 72's? My glovebox door is woodgrain and with Sierra Grande emblem so it should be the top trim level this truck has. My intrument panel is not woodgrain but Vin on spid matches cab vin. As for front fender badges, both his and mine say "Sierra" but they made these badges that say "Sierra Grande" see pic below courtesy of Sharpie. So not everything adds up with the 72 badging in my case. Does Dantips truck have woodgrain and Sierra grande emblem on the glovebox? If not, then his could be a "Sierra" and then at least his badging would make sense. I also wonder why mine has the plain side marker lights, i suppose they could be replacements. Truck does appear to have had some paint work at one point.

I strongly suspect the side marker lights, Sierra Grande side badging and wood-grain glove-box were changed. Your SPID is consistent with Sierra/Cheyenne trim components.

[Vintage Windmills]

Originally Posted by DANTIP

I strongly suspect the side marker lights, Sierra Grande side badging and wood-grain glove-box were changed. Your SPID is consistent with Sierra/Cheyenne trim components.

I don't think my glovebox was changed since the SPID vin matches truck cab vin. That means someone would have had to add the bright trim ring, wood applique, sierra grande emblem assuming you can't peel and reapply a SPID (don't know never tried). If the Spid can't be transferred, changing all that seems very challenging for a typical owner.

[DANTIP]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

I don't think my glovebox was changed since the SPID vin matches truck cab vin. That means someone would have had to add the bright trim ring, wood applique, sierra grande emblem assuming you can't peel and reapply a SPID (don't know never tried). If the Spid can't be transferred, changing all that seems very challenging for a typical owner.

The woodgrain trim panel can easily be added to the original glove-box door. Also, Sierra Grande/Cheyenne Super did not come with Black interior unless bucket seats were ordered.

[special-K]

I agree with Dan. It's not hard to remove and change those parts. SPIDs? No. That Sierra Grande fender emblem is '72 because it became a trim level.

What are the option #s for all the trim levels 67 through 72?

[DANTIP]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

I don't think my glovebox was changed since the SPID vin matches truck cab vin. That means someone would have had to add the bright trim ring, wood applique, sierra grande emblem assuming you can't peel and reapply a SPID (don't know never tried). If the Spid can't be transferred, changing all that seems very challenging for a typical owner.

Just noticed, the passenger side rear emblem says "Sierra" and there doesn't appear to be any empty holes for the longer "Sierra Grande" emblem stud(s).

[duallyjams]

The grills are different through the years Tim do you any pics.

[Vintage Windmills]

Originally Posted by special-K

What are the option #s for all the trim levels 67 through 72?

So in 72, it must go like this:

no option- Custom (nothing on SPID)
Z62- Custom Deluxe (says Custom Deluxe on SPID)
Z84- Sierra (says Sierra or Cheyenne on SPID)
YE5- Sierra Grande (Sierra Grande or Cheyenne Super on SPID)

[DANTIP]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

So in 72, it must go like this:

no option- Custom (nothing on SPID)
Z62- Custom Deluxe (says Custom Deluxe on SPID)
Z84- Sierra (says Cheyenne on SPID)
YE5- Sierra Grande (probably says Cheyenne Super on SPID)

x2

[Vintage Windmills]

Correction for super custom before Tim corrects me

For 1972:
no option- Custom (nothing on SPID)
Z62- Super Custom (says Custom Deluxe on SPID)
Z84- Sierra (says Sierra or Cheyenne on SPID)
YE5- Sierra Grande (Sierra Grande or Cheyenne Super on SPID)

[70shortfleet]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

So in 72, it must go like this:

no option- Custom (nothing on SPID)
Z62- Custom Deluxe (says Custom Deluxe on SPID)
Z84- Sierra (says Sierra or Cheyenne on SPID)
YE5- Sierra Grande (Sierra Grande or Cheyenne Super on SPID)

The Sierra Grande in post #84 just had Cheyenne equip on the spid not Cheyenne Super

[BGDion]

I have had the same question about trim levels/features of the 1967 GMC super custom. Below are some photos of my truck - a '67 3/4 ton super custom. I purchased it from my grandfather who had bought it new - so everything except wheels, radio, and door speakers are stock. My understanding is the fender badge, large rear window, side trim, inner door liners, and (perhaps) seat was unique to the super custom. Is this correct?

[Vintage Windmills]

Originally Posted by 70shortfleet

The Sierra Grande in post #84 just had Cheyenne equip on the spid not Cheyenne Super

We concluded its most likely a sierra with modifications (per Tim and Dan and I think I agree too) so that's consistent with z84 being on the SPID.

[Vintage Windmills]

Originally Posted by BGDion

I have had the same question about trim levels/features of the 1967 GMC super custom. Below are some photos of my truck - a '67 3/4 ton super custom. I purchased it from my grandfather who had bought it new - so everything except wheels, radio, and door speakers are stock. My understanding is the fender badge, large rear window, side trim, inner door liners, and (perhaps) seat was unique to the super custom. Is this correct?

Not correct. The super custom may have made one or more required, but i know you could get that stuff as options on the custom (and probably the base model too). Super custom got you a buddy buckets, carpet, and a fancier horn button, thats it per my dealer brochure. I have two customs with the panoramic window option, trim, door liners and have seen others with that fender badge.

Nice truck btw!

[lil hoodlum]

Originally Posted by BGDion

I have had the same question about trim levels/features of the 1967 GMC super custom. Below are some photos of my truck - a '67 3/4 ton super custom. I purchased it from my grandfather who had bought it new - so everything except wheels, radio, and door speakers are stock. My understanding is the fender badge, large rear window, side trim, inner door liners, and (perhaps) seat was unique to the super custom. Is this correct?

As part of the 1967 GMC super custom the fender badge and seats are part of the super custom option. The side trim and big back window were options available and should be listed on your SPID, if you have one.

Keith

[leh72super1500]

This is an interesting thread and has caused me to dig deeper into what what the previous owners have added to my Super Custom.

This document may be of some help as it also relates to other posts in this discussion. It is from GM Canada's Vintage Vehicle Services and it shows a matrix of the various option availability for 1972 GMC pickups across the trim levels Z62, Z84 and YE9.

I have determined that according to this document the chrome side marker light trim and the bright foot pedal trim did not come from the factory. So a PO must have installed it right?

My other question in an earlier post was the GMC tailgate band described as "tailgate lower trim with wood grain insert and bright lettering". I discovered elsewhere in this document that with the BX2 Option which described as "Bright metal lower molding Black painted insert. Includes Bright upper and lower mouldings on tailgate. Bright tail and backup lamp bezels and Bright fuel tank cap..." My Truck as BX2 listed on the SPID as well B85 (upper moldings). So a PO must have just added the wood grain inserts although this really looks original to the truck as it has aged and needs replacing.

Thanks and let's keep this thread alive.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills

Not correct. The super custom may have made one or more required, but i know you could get that stuff as options on the custom (and probably the base model too). Super custom got you a buddy buckets, carpet, and a fancier horn button, thats it per my dealer brochure. I have two customs with the panoramic window option, trim, door liners and have seen others with that fender badge.

Nice truck btw!

Yes,the word unique may not be the right word for some of the things that were included when you got a Super Custom. Basically,as you went up in trim level you got features "in addition to" ones included in the lower levels. Like Customs got bright window trim,dash knobs,side trim,and vinyl door panels,which were included in the Super Customs. Unique things were the fender badge and horn button. I'm not sure about the seat. It's unique that only Super Customs came with buckets,but I'm out sure (without looking at some info) if they were an option in the Customs. The Panoramic window was an option in all the trucks.

Originally Posted by leh72super1500

This is an interesting thread and has caused me to dig deeper into what what the previous owners have added to my Super Custom.

This document may be of some help as it also relates to other posts in this discussion. It is from GM Canada's Vintage Vehicle Services and it shows a matrix of the various option availability for 1972 GMC pickups across the trim levels Z62, Z84 and YE9.

I have determined that according to this document the chrome side marker light trim and the bright foot pedal trim did not come from the factory. So a PO must have installed it right?

My other question in an earlier post was the GMC tailgate band described as "tailgate lower trim with wood grain insert and bright lettering". I discovered elsewhere in this document that with the BX2 Option which described as "Bright metal lower molding Black painted insert. Includes Bright upper and lower mouldings on tailgate. Bright tail and backup lamp bezels and Bright fuel tank cap..." My Truck as BX2 listed on the SPID as well B85 (upper moldings). So a PO must have just added the wood grain inserts although this really looks original to the truck as it has aged and needs replacing.

Thanks and let's keep this thread alive.

I thought a '72 Super Custom would come with fancy peddles. The side markers would be the plain type. The lower mouldings should be black accent. But,I dunno,could be an exception on your truck.

They make it confusing in that data by referring to the tailgate band as "lower" moulding. The band only came with woodgrain side mouldings which was only the Sierras and Sierra Grandes in '72. Super Customs got the lower mouding that goes across the bottom of the tailgate.