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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Livermore,CA
Posts: 8
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Alex, would you please post a pic of how you mounted the fuse block on the painless kit? That's the step I am on and looking for ideas.
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
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The second picture has the wires coming down, that was just for mock up, they have been moved to come out the top of the bracket or the "U" part. You can obviously mount it where ever you like. I went with the "easy to get to" route. |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
nice clean work. thanks for posting your pics.
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 549
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
I made a similar bracket, but it uses the hood hinge bolts in lieu of drilling more holes in firewall. Cheers, Jim
Last edited by Rickysnickers; 11-21-2024 at 09:54 AM. |
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Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Livermore,CA
Posts: 8
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Thanks Jim and Alex. I was leaning the hood hinge bolts way, but the visuals are super helpful.
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Here is a link to a video I made. This is how I did the ammeter to volt gauge conversion. While it was easy to do, I was nervous to get into it because there wasn't really a good reference page on how it was done. It was definitely easier that I thought it was going to be. The whole process took less than one hour.
I liked how Ogre used the original gauge plate and I wanted to keep it looking stock as well. Thanks for the inspiration. Hopefully this little video helps others! https://youtu.be/b51VpyNE1FY |
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Photos of the finished conversion. I used kydex on the back for a spacer and I also shrink wrapped a little bit of the studs to isolate it from making contact with the metal frame of the cluster. Not sure if it was needed but it made me feel better. Also got 3MM washers and nuts to add to the studs.
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
I've gotten quite a bit done. I finished all the wiring and got the fuel tank in and moved to the back of the bed. I got the Retro manufacturing radio and speakers in for behind the bench seat.
I'm stuck on the original electric wiper though and need some help! I believe I am missing a few things for the arms to attach to the motor which I have circled in red on the first image. Also, the passenger wiper arm doesn't come close to lining up with the spot its supposed to. its about an inch off when in the park position. The wipers is really the last thing before I am finished with the inside of the cab and can put the seat back in. Thanks in advance on any help with the wiper arms! |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
here is a shot from the assembly manual. dunno if that helps.
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
if you have the manual downloaded from the trifive site I think you'll find the wiper info on page 108 or so.
this doesn't show the electric version but it shows the arms and components, how they fit together, etc |
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Thanks dsraven.
I actually have a copy of that book and its sect. 1 sheet 53. It’s been helpful to have in person instead of having to look it up online. Unfortunately that isn’t the same wiper motor. So this particular diagram doesn’t help me too much with my question and problem. Thank you though for the reply! |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
I have s stock electric set up. I'll try to find it and see what it has for parts and how it sets up etc. Not sure if a left arm and pivot could be put on a right?
Letcha know what I find. |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
ooi, found my wiper stuff in the attic. heres some pics.
hope it helps. |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
the last of then.
note the arms are marked L and R. dunno if you needed that part or not. let me know if you need any other pics. |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
never seen one of those. maybe a dealer installed aftermarket from back in the day?
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Location: Toppenish, WA
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
If you don't have it here is the wiring diagram for the 800 turn signal switch.
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Here is a better view of what I'm working on. As you can see from the photos that the linkage doesn't line up. I've taken the cam part off to see if it was on backwards but it isn't. As far as I can tell I have the correct arms as well. Its easily two inches off. I've only been able to find this one link to a service manual but it doesn't mention the arm assembly at all and how they should go. The arm is stamped Right so I know its the passenger side.
Any thoughts? Any one? https://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.co...s51d11800.html |
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 9,041
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
if it were me, I would fab a new one with off the shelf bushings and small squarw tubing or rod. if it doesn't work you still have the original.
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Moxee WA
Posts: 1,700
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Having fought the wipers on my '49, it looks to me like the arm is simply on the wrong pivot point. Have you tried switching the arm to the other pivot? Just a thought
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Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Surrey BC
Posts: 1,398
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
So both arms go on that one pivot and the pivot travels in a full circle?
And the pivot can slide in and out a bit after loosening that nut to adjust the maximum sweep angle? Could you problem be you have the arms at the wiper end pointing the wrong way? (See figure 2 in the PDF you linked), the transmission oscillating arm could point up or down and it makes a big difference where the arm sits for park position. On the older trucks with two pivots on the oscillating vacuum motor you can put the arms either way up if you also swap the pivots - but one way works much better than the other. |
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Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Victoria British Columbia
Posts: 153
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Having just re-driveway-engineered my wiper system on a '58, I have not seen a wiper motor like that on a TF and the plumbing strap style of bracket doesn't really point to a factory install.
That being said, can the motor be spun 180 degrees either backward/forward or up/down? That would put the pivot in a different location. Figuring the wiper arm pivoting out is a bit of brain-teaser as each side moves mirror image to each other unlike most modern wiper posts. |
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Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Victoria British Columbia
Posts: 153
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Have you turned the wiper motor on to see where park position is?
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Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Victoria British Columbia
Posts: 153
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
can u post a photo zoomed OUT a bit with the arms etc so we can see the full picture?
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Grantsville, UT
Posts: 48
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Got them going and working.
I removed the entire assembly. From the arms and bezels to the transmission and motor. Cleaned them all up and I found that the side that wasn't lining up did have a "stop" tab on the transmission arm. As I was looking at the driver side, it did. I circled it in red. I was able to pull the ball socket out and replace it with a spare. Luckily I have saved parts from multiple trucks I've had over the years. My guess is, somehow that tab bent and broke and it got stuck in a weird position or got over extended and stuck. I don't know what else I could have done different to fix it. On top of replacing all the seals and grommets associated with the wipers. |
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Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Victoria British Columbia
Posts: 153
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Re: Moody's Utah 58 Apache
Good stuff. I see your TF did not the squirter hoses hooked up by the look of the tube there. I imagine you know, you have to remove the stainless screws from the outside and insert the threaded spray nozzles. Ask me how I know.
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