67 cheby's Dropmember build thread (CLOUD 9)

[nuke1]

Hey there, coming from a guy that does not have much, i work my tail off to pay for debt and support my family, things in the end have a way of working themselves out, trust me. I still build some nice rides for ppl, but because i live way up in tim buk two, i can never get sponsorship for anything, even thou i have built 150 thousand dollar cars, Heck i can not even afford to paint or finish HAVOC for that matter. it kills me, But in the end just driving her the way whe is, makes it all worth it in the end. It is on the inside that counts!!! I would give anything to be able to go to the large shows that all of you have in the states, i have worked with some very big names in the industry, ans still can not get mine painted. I need roughly 8 grand to finish he the way i want. gonna be a while unless I sell a Kidney....... hey wait, someone looking for one, 32 years young and heatly, hehe. anyways. it will be all good, just continue working at it and go frome there, still enjoy every minute of it and know that you are doing a great job on your truck, and be proud of that fact, knowing that YOU did it!!! not all of us are born with luck or a silverspoon, but in the end does it really matter???

[67cheby]

WELL SAID... last night i decided to work on something i can do that wont cost much and needs done so here is the story , a couple of years ago a customer of mine was trading in a truck, he is a motorcycle rider and is sponsored by Kicker, well the truck he is trading in has a complete Kicker system in it, this is a good customer i have sold several vehicles to and he says hey you can have it all for your truck my sponsor will give me new stuff for my new truck !!!! so it has been setting in my closet in boxes for the last couple years last night i got it out and started building a box , it will be molded to the back of the cab and the front completely fiberglassed and painted to match .....anyway here is the pics of my FREE STUFF !!

[67cheby]

here is a pic of the speaker grills

[nuke1]

NICE, things do work out, that will be great, what do you have for components for it????

[67cheby]

i have a set of rockford 4 inch speakers and a set of alpine 3x6 i think ?? i might end up needing some more mid range stuff we will see , the sub amp is 850x2 and the mid range amp is 650x4, i got all of the kicker wiring and fuse blocks to go with it all. Tonight i am going to build the stands to space the speakers out of the front of the box and start the fleece backing for the fiberglass

[chapster]

Hey 67 cheb'y

How much air volume do your subs require?

[67cheby]

if i read the specs right it is about .917 and i think i have like .8 something ???? i dont know much about the tech side of stereo stuff so i hope this will work ok ?? if you know more please let me know

[67cheby]

my wife came out in the garage last night and said "what are you doing" of course i replied building a box for my truck , to which she replied " dont you think your to old for that "........hmmmmm , am i ??? maybe i should have said ....if its to loud you are too old !!! but i didnt ,i just said probably, but its gonna ROCK !!! cant wait for some AC/DC to be rocking out of it !!

[superflysteiny]

nice coming along

[67cheby]

well i took a little advice from the board ....and got my vent glass stud tig welded on , there is very little discoloration and i think i can get most of that polished out !!

[67chevy1series]

i wish my wing windows had nice chrome like yours....tis is a shame that no one reproduces them

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by 67chevy1series

i wish my wing windows had nice chrome like yours....tis is a shame that no one reproduces them

Reproduction 'non-chrome' aren't great from web research. This is one of those parts where it's best to stick w/rebuilt original stuff.

[colin_havens]

Mike, they just wont play to their full potental. Having a smaller box than is required can also effect power handling, although I dont see how it would hurt what you have going right now. Just be sure to set your gains on the amps corectly so the signal they get is not clipping or distorted.... too much power is not the main cause of blown subs, a distorted signal is.

On a side note, those subs play much louder in a ported box, although you can run then sealed. I had 2 12 inch L7s when they first came out, and they were stupid loud. I only had about 500 watts going to each sub, and it would hit so hard it shook EVERYTHING. This was in highschool, and I had some girls name my car for me after that install. They called it "Good Vibrations" lol

Since they were free, I would definately run them. However now that I am older, Kicker is not always my first choice in subs. They are loud, just not as clean a sound compared to some sound quality subs. Then again, for my 67, I usually just listen to the pipes rumble unless Im going on a long trip. When Im doing that, the compents in my doors and 6x9s under my seats are just enough to make the Alpine in my dash sound plenty good.

[67cheby]

so is it recommended to port these then ???

[mac72]

Originally Posted by 67cheby

so is it recommended to port these then ???

Most of us need the seat back as far as it will go & still feel cramped a ported box is just not gonna fit, maybe w/ one ported!

[67cheby]

i must be totally confused it thought porting a box was just putting a hole in it with the plastic tube ???

[67cheby]

well now i dont know what to do.... i dont plan on competeing or anything with this system so question is if i run both subs in this box will it still sound ok just not as good as it could sound with the proper air space or will it sound like crap

[tubbedII]

Originally Posted by 67cheby

so is it recommended to port these then ???

Porting a box CORRECTLY is a very complicated assigment, and I would stay away from it given what you say your experience is in this area. The idea of running just 1 sub is probably your best bet in this situation. I don't think you're going to need both of them anyways as 1 should be more than enough.

I've only built 1 box that was too small since I was working with not enough room. It was about half of the space required by the sub. I hated the way it sounded...it was muffled and quiet. I only waited about 2 weeks before building another that was the proper size and it made the biggest difference without changing any other components. The bass was cleaner and tighter, and most of all, louder.

[colin_havens]

Usually. When it comes to subs, no matter what brand, a sealed box will give you tighter more accurate bass for the most part. A properly built ported box will be louder, typically about 3 db louder. However it will not be as tight but rather a "boomy" sound. Its great for rap, r&b, some pop music, ect. But for me (and this is just my listening tastes) a sealed box sounds better, particulary when listening to rock and roll, blues, ect which is what I like to listen to most of the time.

Ported boxes are "tuned" to a certian frequency by the length of the port, and the sound output will be loudest at that frequency. It will roll off sharply on both sides of that. However a sealed box will have a flatter frequency responce, meaning the output will be pretty much the same no matter what the speaker is playing. Not a flat sound, but a flat responce. Ported boxes are always larger than a sealed box as well, so if space is a concern, its easier to fit a sealed box than it is a ported one.

Ultimately its up to you. Depending on what you like as far as music, how you like it to sound, space avaiable, and what your end goals are, you can set it up any number of ways. Some people are happy with a couple of cheapo 5 and 1/4 inch speakers and an AM radio, while some want concert quality sound and yet others want to be heard from a mile away, but could care less about hearing anythnig but the boom of their subs. I would listen to a couple of setups, and make your decisions based on what you like best.

[67cheby]

thanks guys for all of you knowledge and input it is appreciated !!

[67chevy1series]

Originally Posted by 67cheby

thanks guys for all of you knowledge and input it is appreciated !!

did you get your new seat belts yet?

[colin_havens]

Also, the sub does have someething to do with how it sounds, but the box is EVERYTHING. It makes all the difference in the world. If you read on any sound quality or spl forums, the number one reccomendation when people are unhappy with their setup is for them to rebuild their box, because it usually is either not tuned correctly or it is too small. The box is everything, and as TubbedII said, building a properly built and tuned ported box is much more diffuclt than building a sealed one.

If it was me, and I was looking for the best sound and still be loud, I would run one of those subs in a sealed box built to the proper size. It will sound better, your rock n roll will be more accurate (a kick drum will sound like a kick drum, and not just an empty boom) and in a single cab truck, it will shake you to the bone still.

[mac72]

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[tubbedII]

Originally Posted by colin_havens

Also, the sub does have someething to do with how it sounds, but the box is EVERYTHING. It makes all the difference in the world. If you read on any sound quality or spl forums, the number one reccomendation when people are unhappy with their setup is for them to rebuild their box, because it usually is either not tuned correctly or it is too small. The box is everything, and as TubbedII said, building a properly built and tuned ported box is much more diffuclt than building a sealed one.

If it was me, and I was looking for the best sound and still be loud, I would run one of those subs in a sealed box built to the proper size. It will sound better, your rock n roll will be more accurate (a kick drum will sound like a kick drum, and not just an empty boom) and in a single cab truck, it will shake you to the bone still.

Couldn't have said it better...

[watahyahknow]

you could make a little more volume by building it out between the seats but it would became complicated and you need another place for the amps , another way would be to stuff the box with that white fiber stuff , it makes the speaker believe its in a bigger box , make some braces inside so the box doesn't zoom at certain frequencies (think they call it standing waves in the professional world ) , you can tune the box to you're liking by adding removing material
you could alls make a (or more) port(s) out of two tight fitting pipes (rain piping?) sliding into each other and fitted under the seats , you can tune those to you're liking like you would tune a sliding trombone and adds volume too as long as you have the room under the seats its an option